Bernie Sanders

paulthompson

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217. Another update

Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:08 PM

Apr 2016

Here's another update on the timeline. It continues to grow fast. A few days ago it didn't exist, and now it's 22,000 words long. Now that it's taking shape, I could use more help with a variety of tasks. If you want to volunteer, please PM me.

Also, simply posting relevant news links here in this thread as you see them is a help too.

And as a reminder, the timeline is just phase one. Since it's going to be so long and comprehensive, a lot of people won't be willing to read all that. So I figure we'll slice and dice it in other ways. For instance making a FAQ, and also making one or more essays that summarize the important points in a more digestible way. But we need to get all our facts sorted out into the timeline first.

One problem is still figuring out where this is going to go on the Internet. Can anyone help set up a website, for starters?

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Let's put our heads together on the Clinton e-mail scandal [View all] paulthompson Mar 2016 OP

don't forget the DoJ's involved now, too MisterP Mar 2016 #1

Truth is truth. I don't see this going away without a hurt of some kind. How big? Could be big. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #2

I think Clinton had better hope it is before the election. If so, she will be indicted. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #3

timing paulthompson Mar 2016 #17

Well upon reading, I think she is SOL LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #18

That can't be right paulthompson Mar 2016 #21

Yes I know. And the tricky part is he was relieved of service with no prison sentence. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #22

link paulthompson Mar 2016 #23

Yes. Again, Ford-Nixon. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #27

And Bush Sr.- Casper Weinberger Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #124

Yes. She can be pardoned at any time. Those are DOJ guidelines, not laws. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #83

The direct precedent is John Deutch. AG ran out the clock, Bill pardoned leveymg Mar 2016 #57

No, because Ford pardoned Nixon and it wasn't five years between that and PatrickforO Apr 2016 #201

"Not going to happen", she said. 2banon Mar 2016 #158

The way she said it: for once I believed her. thereismore Mar 2016 #164

Got your attention too? I wondered if anyone else picked up 2banon Mar 2016 #171

Hubris. Alwayys precedes a fall. thereismore Mar 2016 #173

sooner or later.. 2banon Mar 2016 #175

Like Kissinger, Bush and Cheney. She fits. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #176

No links to share BUT I have a thought about point C. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #4

Yep paulthompson Mar 2016 #19

PaulThompson-- I love your work! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #75

That's the point which concerns me greatly. 2banon Mar 2016 #159

She should step down while she is ahead in the count. thereismore Mar 2016 #165

that's just it, she doesn't give a flying fig for anyone else, 2banon Mar 2016 #172

Yeah, they have their fingers jammed so tightly in their ears. *sigh* GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #181

I can't provide links at the moment, but there is something I would like to add... flor-de-jasmim Mar 2016 #5

First part, yea it is a pain in the rear LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #20

As a country, we should do everything in our power to make it so we have fewer secrets. Baobab Mar 2016 #44

Her cavilier attitude describes her personna 2banon Mar 2016 #160

I don't know if there is Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #6

I disagree paulthompson Mar 2016 #10

BOOM! paulthompson Mar 2016 #13

wasn't one or two of the missing 30K recently mentioned in the news? supposedly they contained amborin Mar 2016 #96

I remember reading that the deleted emails had been thereismore Mar 2016 #167

I don't disagree with you at all Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #25

A couple interesting recent finds idea5 Mar 2016 #7

Time crunch today NJCher Mar 2016 #8

Thanks! paulthompson Mar 2016 #14

Paul, far more pressing for me is... Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #9

One thing to consider is that in 2008 Blue Meany Mar 2016 #11

I think you're confusing illinois with Michigan. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #120

There are reports that it has expanded to the Clinton Foundation RDANGELO Mar 2016 #12

Good point paulthompson Mar 2016 #16

Blumenthal was working in Libya w/the late Tyler Drumheller. leveymg Mar 2016 #59

I'm late to the party - I never heard of Tyler Drumheller dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #254

The truth is often in the omissions, particularly in the WaPo. leveymg Apr 2016 #257

I PMed Vulgar Poet who does great research.... Punkingal Mar 2016 #15

Here you go....UPDATED. Punkingal Mar 2016 #24

UPDATED: Work in Progress Oilwellian Mar 2016 #26

Thanks! paulthompson Mar 2016 #28

I'll come back later and grab the most important points in each link w/approx dates Oilwellian Mar 2016 #35

I had a partial timeline started about a month ago leveymg Mar 2016 #61

Great addition to the timeline, leveymg Oilwellian Mar 2016 #76

That's the one! paulthompson Mar 2016 #84

Count me in dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #29

The CIA Annex was about 1 km south of the Ambassador's residence leveymg Mar 2016 #62

Judicial Watch just uncovered emails from February '09 magical thyme Mar 2016 #30

Some have suggested the NSA refusal to clone Obama's secure phone was HRCs motive leveymg Mar 2016 #63

oooh grasswire Mar 2016 #107

Good point paulthompson Mar 2016 #110

Bingo! n/t Aerows Mar 2016 #152

the tangential "pay-to-play" investigation is potentially bigger than the email (& probably a major magical thyme Mar 2016 #31

Hillary Clinton has an NSA problem magical thyme Mar 2016 #32

Schindler also has several good articles on Clinton's email Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #46

Hillary's other server scandal (WSJ on pay-2-play w/foundation) magical thyme Mar 2016 #33

GOP sues State Dept over access to emails (34th civil suit over FOIA requests) magical thyme Mar 2016 #34

Pagliano interviewed; aides & possibly Clinton to follow w/in weeks. Wrap up May per NYT. magical thyme Mar 2016 #36

Hillary Clinton Emails Held Info Beyond Top Secret: IG (NBC news) magical thyme Mar 2016 #37

has that article been purged? grasswire Mar 2016 #111

I wish...apparently I copied incorrectly and didn't get the full link magical thyme Mar 2016 #118

If you look at the applicable statutes as lined up within her Security Agreement leveymg Mar 2016 #64

FBI's Clinton probe expands to public corruption track (Clinton Foundation) magical thyme Mar 2016 #38

A bunch of links and a possible alternative (or additional) strategy Jim Lane Mar 2016 #39

Good idea paulthompson Mar 2016 #45

An invitation to those with limited time Jim Lane Mar 2016 #47

Good idea paulthompson Mar 2016 #51

Hillary's coming legal crisis (real clear politics) magical thyme Mar 2016 #40

That seems to be a bad link. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #125

here's the fixed link. I'm going to have to re-do them all...copied incorrectly! magical thyme Mar 2016 #137

In email, Hillary Clinton tells aide to send talking points "nonsecure" (CBS news) magical thyme Mar 2016 #41

Indeed paulthompson Mar 2016 #50

Copy of email - It starts at bottom and reads up Oilwellian Mar 2016 #52

NYT also has a copy of that original email posted with its 01/08/16 report, here> leveymg Mar 2016 #65

More than 1,200 Clinton emails now deemed classified. 2 show continued involvement w/foundation magical thyme Mar 2016 #42

Thanks! paulthompson Mar 2016 #49

this was from one board I've belonged to for 4 months, lol magical thyme Mar 2016 #66

Wikileaks site for her emails Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #81

It seems that it is the server, not the emails ALittleBirdie Mar 2016 #43

Wow! paulthompson Mar 2016 #48

I watched it a few days ago and thought it was eye-opening Oilwellian Mar 2016 #54

yeah, be wary of diGenova. grasswire Mar 2016 #60

Jury results EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2016 #53

+1 Bubzer Mar 2016 #123

Please PM me when you have a moment leveymg Mar 2016 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Mar 2016 #56

Let's not forget that 4nic8em Mar 2016 #58

This post might be helpful re: emails blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #67

WSJ - server set up to hide pay2play, pagliano failure to disclose double paychecks, blumenthal magical thyme Mar 2016 #68

Isn't this the same Bryan Pagliano that worked on her 2008 campaign? ebayfool Mar 2016 #93

yes. she hired him to work at State plus hired him personally to moonlight magical thyme Mar 2016 #98

Hmmm. Didn't the DNC have a similar 'problem' with their firewalls being porous ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #108

the DNC software problem was due to their vendor's crappy software magical thyme Mar 2016 #138

Forbes Hillary's Emails: How The Russians, The Chinese . . . And The White House, Have Benefited magical thyme Mar 2016 #69

Harpers on Clinton Foundation used to launder money & enrich Clintons & cronies magical thyme Mar 2016 #70

(Special Intelligence) Review Says Classified Information Was in Hillary Clinton�s Email NYT magical thyme Mar 2016 #71

The Observer: Blumenthal w/what appears to be SIGINT (signals intelligence, ie NSA satellite data) magical thyme Mar 2016 #72

Primary sources Lone_Wolf Mar 2016 #73

Another set of primary sources are the court documents in the Vice News law suit leveymg Mar 2016 #74

Great series of posts. Thank you paulthompson et. al. for this compiled info. sorechasm Mar 2016 #77

Clinton will not be indicted over Emailghazi. Bernie will and needs to win fair and square. emulatorloo Mar 2016 #78

It's not just a matter of indictments paulthompson Mar 2016 #85

Your opinion is noted. I, on the other hand, will wait and see what the FBI says. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #102

The 147 agents number has been debunked. New estimate is 12 agents. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #261

The FBI has no authority to indict anyone Zambero Mar 2016 #79

correct. they make recommendations; it's up to Lynch to decide. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #82

indict? paulthompson Mar 2016 #86

Report: Clinton changed stance on trade deal after donations to foundation Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #80

How to proceed? paulthompson Mar 2016 #87

more about timelines paulthompson Mar 2016 #88

NTRB - The Clinton System, by Simon Head, publshed Jan 30, 2016 Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #89

IBTimes - Firms Paid Bill Clinton Millions As They Lobbied Hillary Clinton, Sirota et al, 4/28/15 Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #90

Great thoughts! I just hope they reach a decision sooner rather than later. I_Make_Shirts Mar 2016 #91

June paulthompson Mar 2016 #95

Paul, thank you for taking this on. Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #92

Politico - Clinton Foundation paid Blumenthal $10K per month while he advised on Libya Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #94

WaPo - How Clinton�s email scandal took root, by Robert O'Harrow, 3/27/16 Joy of Fishes Mar 2016 #97

I'm in, but honestly don't know if my threads are much help. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #99

LAT: FBI to interview Clinton IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #100

Wikileaks release of Hillarys emails reveals Google, al Jazeera aided overthrow of Syrian government IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #103

Great idea, we need to be the free press felix_numinous Mar 2016 #101

Warning: dodgy source! paulthompson Mar 2016 #104

Deleted e-mails not all personal in nature paulthompson Mar 2016 #105

this site might be of interest: amborin Mar 2016 #106

I'll help out as soon as I have more time to do so. Bubzer Mar 2016 #109

thoughts grasswire Mar 2016 #112

Good idea paulthompson Mar 2016 #114

jackpine radicals is an offshoot of DU grasswire Mar 2016 #115

We are all there Paul - TBF Mar 2016 #122

Has this wrinkle been posted yet? grasswire Mar 2016 #113

Harper's Magazine: Shaky Foundations (Clinton Foundation) IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #116

Forbes: The Mystery Of Hillary's Missing Millions IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #117

Great idea Paul! Welcome back! Here's the latest news from The Vice FOIA riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #119

I think we can get the delegates - TBF Mar 2016 #121

I want to express solidarity with you all. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #126

I would rather talk about Sanders. HassleCat Mar 2016 #127

Different strokes for different folks paulthompson Mar 2016 #129

If there is something criminal... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #128

Indeed paulthompson Mar 2016 #130

don't know if you saw this info or not questionseverything Mar 2016 #133

If it weren't for Paul, the detailed history of 9/11 would be disappeared. grasswire Mar 2016 #131

Consolidated link list Bubzer Mar 2016 #132

Thanks! paulthompson Mar 2016 #134

By the way... paulthompson Mar 2016 #135

Add-on link here leveymg Mar 2016 #142

Added it. Thanks! Bubzer Mar 2016 #143

Thank you! One suggestion> leveymg Mar 2016 #144

Some help would be fantastic. Bubzer Mar 2016 #145

I'll take the first ten links and add back the title, some key words, and the date. Other helpers? leveymg Mar 2016 #146

That's awesome! Thank you! This'll definitely help! "Master Article Index" is a good title. Bubzer Mar 2016 #148

Here are the first ten with titles, extracts, notes, related posts, dates. Who will do the next 10? leveymg Mar 2016 #151

Baring any unforseen issues, I should be able to devote some time to the list tommarow. Bubzer Mar 2016 #170

i do not have the skills to help with list but questionseverything Mar 2016 #184

Master Article Index Bubzer Mar 2016 #186

OMG this is awesome!!!! Can someone else please give us a hand completing this?! leveymg Mar 2016 #188

Healthcare trade deal cover up Baobab Mar 2016 #136

saw this today, which seems tangentially related: amborin Mar 2016 #139

also tangentially related....well more of a tangenial non-sequitor. blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #140

Scratching head over the notion that these files can't be released. 2banon Mar 2016 #154

Judge cites "indications of wrongdoing and bad faith" in new HRC email ruling. leveymg Mar 2016 #141

I'm not sure if this has been published here Bob_Roony Mar 2016 #147

Yep paulthompson Mar 2016 #150

Apologies if it's a dupe: GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #149

Thanks! paulthompson Mar 2016 #153

Might I suggest you contact him with your thread of resources? GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #156

Response paulthompson Mar 2016 #161

One more thing paulthompson Mar 2016 #169

I suspect the May deadline comes down from much higher than the FBI. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #180

I hear that about his being a Trump supporter. At least we know other people are GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #179

Trump paulthompson Mar 2016 #196

Strange bedfellows, indeed! GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #197

On these outcomes from the top post: Jarqui Mar 2016 #155

Maybe paulthompson Mar 2016 #157

Excellent points... 2banon Mar 2016 #163

Ironic! paulthompson Mar 2016 #166

hmm.. Curious.. 2banon Mar 2016 #174

more about comey questionseverything Mar 2016 #183

I think you make a lot of good points Jarqui Mar 2016 #168

Good thinking paulthompson Mar 2016 #177

Boeing paulthompson Mar 2016 #178

Good theory and remarks Jarqui Mar 2016 #182

Agreed paulthompson Mar 2016 #185

Holy Crow, Paul. Holy Crow. grasswire Mar 2016 #187

hmmm paulthompson Mar 2016 #192

How did I miss this thread? Bookmarking! K&R thereismore Mar 2016 #162

PAUL CHECK THIS OP OUT questionseverything Mar 2016 #189

Already paulthompson Mar 2016 #191

i didnt get to the trump stuff....just wanted to make sure you had seen it questionseverything Mar 2016 #193

For reference paulthompson Mar 2016 #190

We should put our heads together and drop it, period eridani Mar 2016 #194

What do you mean? paulthompson Mar 2016 #195

Timeline! paulthompson Mar 2016 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author amborin Apr 2016 #199

Warning: dodgy source! paulthompson Apr 2016 #200

i see what you mean; i only read the opening paragraph, where he said he's amborin Apr 2016 #203

There's some useful information in here, i.e.,Sec 1001 and Teneo Holdings, regardless of the source. leveymg Apr 2016 #204

Good news on a timeline! paulthompson Apr 2016 #202

awesome! grasswire Apr 2016 #205

Does anyone want to help with pictures? paulthompson Apr 2016 #206

a few tidbits grasswire Apr 2016 #207

Details, please, with links paulthompson Apr 2016 #208

Some members there were discussing it in a thread... grasswire Apr 2016 #209

Huma paulthompson Apr 2016 #210

Politico article mentions Cheryl Mills, Jake Sullivan, Heather Samuelson, and Reines antigop Apr 2016 #214

K&R nt sorechasm Apr 2016 #211

More timeline news paulthompson Apr 2016 #212

By the way, I recommend that you add each and every page to the Internet Archive JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #215

State Department halts review of Clinton emails at FBI request sorechasm Apr 2016 #213

Hillary Clinton Says She Hasn't Been Contacted By the FBI (includes video) antigop Apr 2016 #216

Thanks paulthompson Apr 2016 #218

Another update paulthompson Apr 2016 #217

Strange paulthompson Apr 2016 #219

Also paulthompson Apr 2016 #220

here is what HRC's website has to say about it antigop Apr 2016 #221

yeah but paulthompson Apr 2016 #222

Was an Asian government reading Hillary Clinton�s emails in February 2009? antigop Apr 2016 #223

Message from Paul Thompson Oilwellian Apr 2016 #224

yep paulthompson Apr 2016 #225

K&R AND bookmarking! Wonderful work being done here. Thanks so much! nt haikugal Apr 2016 #226

Update paulthompson Apr 2016 #227

Check this out paulthompson Apr 2016 #228

More paulthompson Apr 2016 #229

she lied about the first two months (unsecured) because... grasswire Apr 2016 #239

That's just a guess paulthompson Apr 2016 #240

yes... grasswire Apr 2016 #241

paul, take note antigop Apr 2016 #230

Thanks paulthompson Apr 2016 #231

yes, I agree. He shouldn't be saying anything. nt antigop Apr 2016 #232

i just thought of something antigop Apr 2016 #233

Nah paulthompson Apr 2016 #234

could the FBI already have finished its investigation and made a decision to indict? nt antigop Apr 2016 #235

No paulthompson Apr 2016 #237

WSJ article paulthompson Apr 2016 #236

paul, be sure to see this thread antigop Apr 2016 #238

Update paulthompson Apr 2016 #242

Finished the timeline! paulthompson Apr 2016 #243

Excellent mmonk Apr 2016 #244

GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley Asks Hillary Whether 'Guccifer' Hacked Emails antigop Apr 2016 #245

Thanks paulthompson Apr 2016 #246

But the link to the Grassley's Senate Judiciary Committee letter is valid. antigop Apr 2016 #247

that is very weird grasswire Apr 2016 #251

Congratulations!!! IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #249

Hooray for Oilwellian!! grasswire Apr 2016 #252

This message was self-deleted by its author antigop Apr 2016 #248

interesting letter from retired FBI agents antigop Apr 2016 #250

Looks Like Bait to Me noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #253

Sigh paulthompson Apr 2016 #256

Nothing will happen abelenkpe Apr 2016 #255

depositions for Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, and Bryan Pagliano in joint proposal antigop Apr 2016 #258

Update again paulthompson Apr 2016 #259

Thank you So much for your hard work, I would be pleased to receive and share the shorter version... slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #260

Post the web link. I'd like to see what you've discovered. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #262

Any updates on that weblink? obamneycare Apr 2016 #264

Kind of paulthompson Apr 2016 #265

:popcorn: obamneycare Apr 2016 #267

The FOIA aspect Babel_17 Apr 2016 #263

So the State Department admits it withheld certain emails mmonk Apr 2016 #266

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #268

The timeline is now live on the web Oilwellian May 2016 #269

Kicked for relevancy Lokijohn May 2016 #270