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Ichingcarpenter

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Wed May 25, 2016, 12:38 AM May 2016

The FBI report, the News cycle, poll numbers, primaries and internet chatter. [View all]

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First off

From what I've read so far Hillary disregarded or broke federal laws, so I'll give those laws

1. Mishandling Classified Information

Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email. Casey Harper at The Daily Caller delved into this angle:

“‘By using a private email system, Secretary Clinton violated the Federal Records Act and the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual regarding records management, and worse, could have left classified and top secret documents vulnerable to cyber attack,’ Cause of Action Executive Director Dan Epstein said in an email to reporters.

‘This is an egregious violation of the law, and if it were anyone else, they could be facing fines and criminal prosecution.’”

2. Violation of The 2009 Federal Records Act

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:

“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”

According to the original story on Clinton’s emails published in The New York Times:

“Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.

In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department.”

The fact that the State Department combs through the 55,000 pages of emails sent on Clinton’s private email account seems to verify that at least some of the emails Clinton sent contained classified information.


3. Violation of the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)

Veterans for a Strong America has filed a lawsuit against the State Department over potential violations of FOIA. Joel Arends, chairman of the non-profit group, explained to the Washington Examiner that their FOIA request over the Benghazi affair specifically asked for any personal email accounts Secretary Clinton may have used:

“‘At this point in time, I think we’re the only ones that specifically asked for both her personal and government email and phone logs,’ Arends said of his group’s Benghazi-related request.”
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell believes that the use of a personal emails server appears to be a preemptive move, specifically designed to circumvent FOIA:

“‘Hillary Clinton’s system was designed to defy Freedom of Information Act requests, which is designed to defy the law.'”

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/264655-3-federal-laws-hillary-may-violated-secret-email-accounts/


OK,


There may be more things they find ie. Clinton Foundation, but regardless
of the FBI report and suggestions to the Justice Department or what Justice decides........ that another news cycle and discussion even if she gets just a slap on the wrist or a tongue lashing from the FBI or the Justice dept.

I want to talk about the next on my list.


The News Cycle

When this 'story or report' breaks, what do you think all the TV news cycle will do? They will have at least a 24/7 talk fest with all the pro/con talking pundits discussing this. The internet will be on fire discussing the findings.
With her defenders and detractors arguing endlessly.
And what would this do to her poll numbers?


Poll numbers

Her poll numbers during this cycle will not go up,but take a hit, in fact she will have to address the report findings to reporters there is no way she can avoid this like she did the debate in California. Her poll numbers will go down, I guarantee it. She might handle the reporters well or not but that continues the news cycle. Trump will go to town on this, no matter how much we dislike Trump he is a master manipulator of the media and brilliant with his ugly one liners. Sanders will just say.. 'her damn emails''..... and emphasis on 'damn.'. “I’ve been asked 5 million times about the emails, and I haven’t said anything,” Sanders said in a brief interview before a rally here. “I’ve been asked about the Clinton Foundation, didn’t say anything. Bill Clinton’s personal life? Never said a word. (sacbee.com)


Remaining Primaries

Depending on the timing of the FBI release of the report it will have significant bearing on the remaining primaries and hurt her chances to tie the whole thing up.

Democratic convention

Once again an unknown depending on what the Justice department suggests. But it adds to the 'Messy Convention' equation Bernie is talking about.


General Election

If she is the nominee vs Trump... The FBI report discussion will continue to be a thorn in her side and the Democratic Party.

I don't like my scenario but I think its accurate.

My other scenario is Go Bernie....you need to go all the way.......but that's another story.

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As I was reading your post.... grasswire May 2016 #1
Well, a news distraction of some matter or disaster might take the edge off the FBI report Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #2
yep grasswire May 2016 #3
It sure seems like every election cycle there is a new health scare. This time it is Zika silvershadow May 2016 #6
If the FBI announces on a Friday that would certainly tell us something leveymg May 2016 #4
I'm sure my scenario is being discussed behind closed doors Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #7
She has powerful allies including Wall Street, Banksters and democratic party Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #9
Bernie gives me a lot of hope Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #11
Agreed, but, like Watergate, it probably will play out after Blue Meany May 2016 #23
I said this in 2008 - not a good candidate TBF May 2016 #12
I think things went to hell after' the conscious of the Senate' Ted Kennedy died Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #13
I agree about senator Kennedy Punkingal May 2016 #15
^^^^This!!! Melissa G May 2016 #16
K&R Scuba May 2016 #14
I've had a bad feeling that report comes out the day after Bernie drops out riderinthestorm May 2016 #17
Well the State just released their report and its not good for her. Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #18
I called it and said he will play this out. Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #19
Yes, Jeff is handling it well. nt TBF May 2016 #20
I wrote this OP before the State dept report broke and Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #21
I'm just wondering Iwillnevergiveup May 2016 #22
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