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Bernie Sanders

Bernin4U

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24. Of course, but "pivot"?

Reply to merrily (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:33 PM

Jun 2016

We've been trained on "no we can't" for years. Finally someone comes along, who's anything but a stranger to the system, and tells us it doesn't have to be this way, if we simply stand up for ourselves, and stand together. But the cynical, apologist, chicken wing of course will have none of it.

So to me, it seems the idea that actual representative democracy as something that can't be achieved, has become more a feature than a bug. "Crazy Bernie" is Exhibit A.

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Exactly how self-defeating have we become? [View all] merrily Jun 2016 OP

Good God,,,, SmittynMo Jun 2016 #1

LOL! I think I love you, too. Thank you so much. merrily Jun 2016 #3

Merrily does ROCK! Duval Jun 2016 #32

How long is a piece of string? Fairgo Jun 2016 #2

IMO, Mr. Google can cure, not all, but a lot of ignorance. Not sure how to cure stupid. merrily Jun 2016 #4

Stupid tends to be a terminal condition Fairgo Jun 2016 #5

I feel bad. I think I will change the title of the OP. merrily Jun 2016 #17

Bravo! Paka Jun 2016 #6

Brilliant post Merrily. dead on. nt retrowire Jun 2016 #7

Thank you retro. merrily Jun 2016 #8

The stupid learned helplessness makes us look stupid. So, we soundlessly go back to work. Festivito Jun 2016 #9

Thanks, Festivito. That is very poetic. merrily Jun 2016 #10

Depends on what arouses the hatred. Disdain of psychology, or hits to close. eom Festivito Jun 2016 #11

Neither, but what depends on what arouses the hatred? merrily Jun 2016 #12

You "hate the whole concept of learned helplessness..." Why? eom Festivito Jun 2016 #13

For one thing, I am not sure I fully understand it. merrily Jun 2016 #14

Stockholm syndrome, learned helplessness, stupidity. Do any of us really know what to do about them? Festivito Jun 2016 #15

Ah, thanks. merrily Jun 2016 #16

One way was to let it get so bad that people would awaken. Bush pushed us into Obama. Festivito Jun 2016 #19

How does self-defeating strike you? merrily Jun 2016 #18

Yup. All those things are self defeating. When can we vote against our own self interest again? Festivito Jun 2016 #20

That is a different issue than the issues the OP raised. merrily Jun 2016 #22

You are a very thoughtful person... Fairgo Jun 2016 #21

Thank you. My OP addressed that, albeit perhaps obliquely. merrily Jun 2016 #23

I follow your posts for that very reason Fairgo Jun 2016 #33

Of course, but "pivot"? Bernin4U Jun 2016 #24

Good news is, we don't have to listen to anyone we do not choose to listen to. merrily Jun 2016 #25

Still, I question why you say "pivot" Bernin4U Jun 2016 #26

I said "we pivot" because that is my perception of what we as a people do. Well, maybe not as merrily Jun 2016 #27

Right, Obama had us hopefull. Bernin4U Jun 2016 #29

They do not buy that 99% of the people have to keep merrily Jun 2016 #30

+1000 n/t Triana Jun 2016 #35

" ... because Congress." Martin Eden Jun 2016 #28

Ted Kennedy, Harry Byrd. another guy whose name I won't even type. merrily Jun 2016 #31

Yep. It's amazing that the citizenry has not rioted over corporations controlling Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #34

I wrote sonething similar on Facebook last night noiretextatique Jun 2016 #36

Thank you. Sanders has given many Americans a view of merrily Jun 2016 #37