Bernie Sanders

ieoeja

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27. Same way Hillary would win swing states.

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:50 AM

Jul 2015

Hillary appeals to economically conservative Republicans who don't like the regressive policies of Republicans on social issues.

Bernie appeals to economically moderate to liberal Republicans who don't like the regressive policies of Republicans on social issues.

Bernie also appeals to economically moderate to liberal Republicans who do like the regressive policies of Republicans on social issues. Because at this moment in time they are far more concerned with their pocketbook.

Funny that you picked Ohio and Florida. Labor is still a big thing in Ohio. And Labor hates the Clintons for very good reasons. As for Florida I got two words: Social Security. Hillary will almost certainly be weaker on SS than Bernie.

Not to mention Hillary's outspoken opposition to firearms is going to hurt her chances everywhere. When the DLC modeled themselves on Reagan they made a serious mistake by copying his stance on firearms. Reagan got away with it because (1) people were focused on other issues, and (2) he did not push it hard. The Clintons did. And there are far more Firearm Democrats than there ever were Reagan Democrats. Even Bill Clinton admitted that the AWB lost us the House. 90+% of my family and friends that voted against Reagan haven't voted for a Democrat since the AWB.

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Missing the whole Bernie Sanders point [View all] babylonsister Jul 2015 OP

Ideas? Policies? In American politics? Heresy!! Scuba Jul 2015 #1

So true, thanks for this. zomgitsjesus Jul 2015 #2

True. kenfrequed Jul 2015 #4

I've been wondering about what Duval Jul 2015 #22

For all those who are supporting Hillary simply because they don't think Bernie can win, Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #3

Very well said! Better than well. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #8

+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #11

Well said, Dustlawyer. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #19

Thank you for this well thought out post chknltl Jul 2015 #23

Thank you for that! eom JEB Jul 2015 #28

+1. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #33

So true MissDeeds Jul 2015 #36

How about those supporting Bernie because we aren't sure Hillary can win? merrily Jul 2015 #47

Good point! Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #66

EXCELLENT! SO tired of hearing from Dems & Progressive Radio Hosts... Rockyj Jul 2015 #72

The US Military is the largest Socialist system in the world. tecelote Jul 2015 #93

No one person can get us there but he is the best to lead. bjobotts Jul 2015 #86

...^ that 840high Jul 2015 #90

Additionally kenfrequed Jul 2015 #5

Hell yes..... daleanime Jul 2015 #12

Sanders's and Warren's appeal can start turning things around. merrily Jul 2015 #48

Damn right we do! And a massive GOTV campaign would be the natural result arcane1 Jul 2015 #52

More than a tactic, idea, its truth Protalker Jul 2015 #6

But Hillary is clearly not fighting against the rich. Maedhros Jul 2015 #31

She is only tough when sticking it to people like us. cprise Jul 2015 #38

This group is for supporters Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Jul 2015 #41

Kicked and recommended! An idea. Not a tactic. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #7

He states it so clearely JackInGreen Jul 2015 #9

So true-if she triangulated any harder, she'd turn into a pyramid! Divernan Jul 2015 #20

Amen.... daleanime Jul 2015 #10

Ideas vs. tactics... democrank Jul 2015 #13

+1,000:corporate produced plastic flowers versus fresh cut from the garden Divernan Jul 2015 #18

People don't know what to do. rbnyc Jul 2015 #14

I know what to do and my head hasn't exploded! SoapBox Jul 2015 #16

Thank goodness... rbnyc Jul 2015 #17

Yes indeed. People like what he says emulatorloo Jul 2015 #15

Tom Toles Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #21

I remember those! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #30

Waaaahhh. I want to rec this post and I can't. merrily Jul 2015 #49

The old guard of Dem campaign 'strategists' and spokespeople seem clueless AND arrogant - blm Jul 2015 #24

I'll grant he's the better candidate. Can he win the General? Amimnoch Jul 2015 #25

Same way Hillary would win swing states. ieoeja Jul 2015 #27

Frankly ... KPN Jul 2015 #34

BINGO! merrily Jul 2015 #55

Well damn, merrily Android3.14 Jul 2015 #91

In theory, her time as Secretary of State improved her chances in the general, but I don't think merrily Jul 2015 #94

Here's my biggest concern: two words - "Avowed Socialist." calimary Jul 2015 #37

This group is for SUPPORTERS of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Jul 2015 #40

Sorry about that. calimary Jul 2015 #45

Avowed Democratic Socialist, big difference. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #50

Granted. But remember the dim bulbs we're dealing with. calimary Jul 2015 #65

Dim bulbs is putting it nicely, I was envisioning more like cracked bulbs. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #96

Well, that works, too! calimary Jul 2015 #97

... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #98

And what is so wrong with a Scandinavian lifestyle? mwooldri Jul 2015 #82

Nothing at all! calimary Jul 2015 #88

This group is for SUPPORTERS of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Jul 2015 #39

This is not the group for Hillary supporters. merrily Jul 2015 #51

Bernie can win the same way he has been winning for the last 40 years. By proposing Vincardog Jul 2015 #54

I think he will be far better at getting Republican and independent support than Clinton eridani Jul 2015 #64

Historically, he pulls independents and republicans as well as Dems. grahamhgreen Jul 2015 #73

I'm not quite sure what moderate is Nite Owl Jul 2015 #89

My apologies to this group. Amimnoch Jul 2015 #95

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #26

I just got asked to start a Bernie Group in the very red state of Oklahoma. libdem4life Jul 2015 #29

That's great! cui bono Jul 2015 #42

I'm considering it as fun and meeting new people. Thanks. libdem4life Jul 2015 #57

From Boston, I wish you great success. merrily Jul 2015 #56

Thank you. I wondered for many years how Liberals in red states functioned. libdem4life Jul 2015 #58

People are people. I cannot imagine that expanding Social Security, Medicare for all merrily Jul 2015 #59

True, but much of the state is rural conservative and history dies hard. libdem4life Jul 2015 #60

We look forward to hearing from you. merrily Jul 2015 #61

Thanks libdem4life Jul 2015 #63

May I suggest that you connect with Barry Friedman & the Tulsa Voice? scarletwoman Jul 2015 #69

Thank you for the information. I surely will. libdem4life Jul 2015 #70

Ha! Just for shitz.... Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #71

Back at ya ... Speaking of Ha! ... the first group listed was...get ready... libdem4life Jul 2015 #74

Whoa... shitz again! Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #76

No I didn't...now I don't have to do it. Just join. Works for me. Thanks, yet again. libdem4life Jul 2015 #77

Glad it can Help Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #79

Ideas VS tactics FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #32

Another good Toles LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #35

Over consumption can kill you! Babel_17 Jul 2015 #44

The Sanders campaign, mass hypnosis, or mind control drugs? Babel_17 Jul 2015 #43

Straczynski's B5 Mollari? Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #75

Yeah, with the right PR ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #84

well for the one prior to our current president... Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #87

And to stop the rich from poisoning our world. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #46

The problem with Senator Sanders Thespian2 Jul 2015 #53

No need to worry. Hillary's got Axelrod so she's gonna win.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #62

Something is happening here and you don't know what it is deutsey Jul 2015 #68

He has no clue so don't send him one... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #78

Did you hear Axelrod calling Bernie a "fling?" Stardust Jul 2015 #83

I've heard him called "The Liberal Karl Rove". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #85

K&R deutsey Jul 2015 #67

The 1% work the middle class and upper middle class with fear. Anything we do for those brewens Jul 2015 #80

Good points. Sick to death of the notion that there is 'an approved' candidate and anyone sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #81

rec #199 MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #92

I think we should start a drinking game artislife Jul 2015 #99