I explained to a friend earlier, who is skeptical about Bernie's candidacy... (Reply #11)

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Wed Jul 15, 2015, 05:54 PM

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11. I explained to a friend earlier, who is skeptical about Bernie's candidacy...

It is extremely rare to encounter, and have the opportunity to vote for, a candidate of the quality of Bernie Sanders. The last for me was George McGovern, and I am always happy I had the chance to vote for him.

My friend said he likes Bernie for president, then said Bernie is "too radical, and radicals are unelectable." So I talked about radicals like TR, (busted monopolies) and FDR, (socialized retirement) and (wait for it) ... Reagan! Voodoo economics! Old folks will remember that a Reagan candidacy was ridiculed in the 70s, and as heir apparent to Barry Goldwater, he was called "extremist."

I explained how the demographics puts the presidency well within the reach of whoever is the Dem nominee. In a dynamic, chaotic system, like a society, outcomes are not predictable.

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66 replies	Author	Time	Post
A comment on a Bernie Sanders post grabbed me, despite all my cynicism. [View all]	Playinghardball	Jul 2015	OP
+100000	peacebird	Jul 2015	#1
+1 n/t	Admiral Loinpresser	Jul 2015	#26
K&R!	marym625	Jul 2015	#2
Good stuff indeed. Welcome to The Bernista Briggade	99th_Monkey	Jul 2015	#3
Bernie Power!!!	Playinghardball	Jul 2015	#5
NO amount of money and lies/propaganda can stop a REVOLUTION POWERED BY THE PEOPLE !	loveallserveall	Jul 2015	#15
K & R. I like what you say and hope you're right!	appalachiablue	Jul 2015	#20
That image is awesome. I love that Berne Sanders looks like Doc Brown,	Volaris	Jul 2015	#46
Couldn't find him in a fedora, only a ball cap for the 4th, but cool if Bernie would be up for it!	appalachiablue	Jul 2015	#50
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	Jul 2015	#4
New here....what does eom mean? nt	artislife	Jul 2015	#36
eom = End Of Message	cantbeserious	Jul 2015	#37
TY nt	artislife	Jul 2015	#41
Great Post!!	Thespian2	Jul 2015	#6
Kicked and recommended to the Max!	Enthusiast	Jul 2015	#7
Bernie is a once-in-a-generation WORLD leader	passiveporcupine	Jul 2015	#8
"Who wants to be king of Shit Hill?"	Divernan	Jul 2015	#9
"The only one w/key to unlock tens of millions of votes is Sanders"	Divernan	Jul 2015	#10
I explained to a friend earlier, who is skeptical about Bernie's candidacy...	immoderate	Jul 2015	#11
McGovern!	DeeDeeNY	Jul 2015	#16
Great man -- couldn't catch a break.	immoderate	Jul 2015	#22
NO ONE was going to beat war time incumbent Nixon that year. And Democrats knew it.	merrily	Jul 2015	#58
Go Bernie Go!	SoapBox	Jul 2015	#12
this is AWESOME!	ellennelle	Jul 2015	#13
#FeeltheBern ! n/t	RoccoR5955	Jul 2015	#14
Go Bernie go!	TheNutcracker	Jul 2015	#17
I did not believe all the hopey, changey rhetoric from Obama because I knew his record	emsimon33	Jul 2015	#18
for 13-14 years now the party's been reduced to a skeleton while its handlers	MisterP	Jul 2015	#19
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!	WillyT	Jul 2015	#21
Great post	MissDeeds	Jul 2015	#23
K&R for the entire thread.	Scuba	Jul 2015	#24
I think the most important reason they want her to get the nomination	zeemike	Jul 2015	#25
Yep	Kalidurga	Jul 2015	#27
I don't think the difference between Clinton or Bush will be a big as you think.	zeemike	Jul 2015	#33
I don't think anything is actually a right if you can have it only until	merrily	Jul 2015	#42
Agree - Hillary or Jeb, we lose, Wall Street wins. Again. And as our quality of	whereisjustice	Jul 2015	#28
We get a hell of a lot of right wing shit from	pocoloco	Jul 2015	#60
FOX and FOX-wannabees have been somewhat successful in equating "socialism" with "communism."	KansDem	Jul 2015	#29
Hell, I've seen ignorant teabaggers call Obama a communist and freakin' fascist at the same time	arcane1	Jul 2015	#32
This has been happening for decades ... The asshole conflaters have been around since FDR	Trajan	Jul 2015	#55
Coming to Houston and Dallas on the 19th!	SusanCalvin	Jul 2015	#30
Wow...	SoapBox	Jul 2015	#44
They were there when I posted.	SusanCalvin	Jul 2015	#66
Did you feel the quake?	hootinholler	Jul 2015	#31
Proud of you for sharing this, and for your reconsideration. Thanks.	ancianita	Jul 2015	#34
knr!	retrowire	Jul 2015	#35
This is one of the best thread OPs on the primaries that I have read in the past week or	JDPriestly	Jul 2015	#38
Bookmarked	libodem	Jul 2015	#39
All I can say is yep.	merrily	Jul 2015	#40
Very interesting point about who wants Hillary to win the nomination and why.	SheilaT	Jul 2015	#43
We would have to know	PATRICK	Jul 2015	#45
Holy shit!!!! Kicking ...n/t	Hotler	Jul 2015	#47
DC's Serpcio. He frightens people like Jamie Dimon and those who idolize them.	raouldukelives	Jul 2015	#48
Freaking awesome...K&R...	N_E_1 for Tennis	Jul 2015	#49
Woooot!	fredamae	Jul 2015	#51
Rupert Murdoch and his gang did the same thing with Tony Blair	Rosa Luxemburg	Jul 2015	#52
This is heartening	Plucketeer	Jul 2015	#53
Wow	AwakeAtLast	Jul 2015	#54
K & R -- Thanks so much for this!	senz	Jul 2015	#56
It's a real shame that this wasn't posted in GD.	GoneOffShore	Jul 2015	#57
Repubs want Bernie not Hillary	DownriverDem	Jul 2015	#59
The cons wanted HRC to be the nominee in 2008	d_legendary1	Jul 2015	#61
I would be mildly satisfied with a win	RoccoR5955	Jul 2015	#62
Take the Hillary talking points elsewhere. This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders.	smokey nj	Jul 2015	#63
FEEL THE BERN!!!!... nt	freebrew	Jul 2015	#64
kickiing, because I liked it. That is all.	merrily	Jul 2015	#65

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