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TM99

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30. I am in Phoenix and I want to share my thoughts on this.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:38 AM
Jul 2015

I am also bi-racial and fully support BlackLivesMatter.

I support social protests. I love that they did this especially at Netroots Nation. What I didn't like was that both Sanders and O'Malley were more than willing to dialogue, and the protesters would not stop.

I think Sanders handled it better than O'Malley. He was not there to address one issue alone so off the cuff, he spoke truths. O'Malley unfortunately chose to say all lives matter which does piss off those of us who support this. Of course, all lives matter but when a disproportionate amount of young black men and women are being killed by the police, it is important to address that head on.

Sanders spoke more in his later speech about this problem and received a huge round of applause and standing ovation for his statement about holding this police officers fully accountable for their actions. And this crowd was hugely diverse. Hell, some of the early morning protesters were there.

Now was this a setup? I think that Elon James knew this was going to happen and did nothing to warn his fellow organizers of NN that it was coming. So it did broadside them. I think the hosts handled it the worst of all.

I am a bit perplexed why they chose this particular event alone and frankly I would not be at all surprised if the Clinton campaign was involved. People will scream this is a conspiracy theory. Yeah, I fully admit it, and it is simply my informed opinion. But the timing and the way it was done begs some questions.

If and when I see BlackLivesMatter activists at the next Clinton Town Hall protesting and at all six debates disrupting things, then I will believe this was the start of a valid protest movement raising awareness among allies this campaign season. Of course I am an old school activist. I think that attacking your allies instead of your enemies is a rather stupid way of getting your goals met, and it tends to back fire. But hey, like I said, I don't do Post New Left liberalism.

If they are going to do this, then fucking do this. Go to as many Town Halls and protests. Do this with ALL candidates including the queen apparent. Do this at each and every one of the primary debates. Mount a massive protest at the Democratic convention next summer. But if this was it and only it, well, it was poorly planned and executed. It will make them look bad, not the candidates. And it doesn't help Clinton a damned bit. Not after the speech Sanders just gave tonight to close to 12,000 people in Phoenix fucking Arizona!

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I am not a concern troll. [View all] retrowire Jul 2015 OP
Watch the video. I think he did well, & netroots effed up. That's my take. Watch & make your own peacebird Jul 2015 #1
I sadly cannot watch the videos. retrowire Jul 2015 #2
Exactly what I thought. 840high Jul 2015 #19
Watch the video and decide for yourself. Autumn Jul 2015 #3
I sadly cannot watch the videos. retrowire Jul 2015 #4
Too bad. He did really well. Autumn Jul 2015 #5
Well I'm afraid of people spinning it like they are. retrowire Jul 2015 #8
There are several thread on it here in the group and some of them go into detail. n/t Autumn Jul 2015 #9
He was not booed off stage marym625 Jul 2015 #6
Well said. retrowire Jul 2015 #7
Thank you. marym625 Jul 2015 #12
No, you're not alone mary. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #35
That's a great idea! marym625 Jul 2015 #40
Agree with everything you said swilton Jul 2015 #43
NN in and of itself is not an electoral problem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #10
He should bring some people marym625 Jul 2015 #13
+1 and Bernie needs to hire a lot more black people. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #14
what if Bernie went marching again? retrowire Jul 2015 #26
Depends on the venue Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #32
I think Bernie needs to practice better answers for these questions. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #11
Who is Bernie shooting at? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #15
He's not shooting anyone, but "Stop Shooting Us" Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #17
It's an understandable demand when made at the police who are doing it. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #20
omg :0 Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #22
Like I said, it DOEs need to be brought up and addressed. There's no argument there, I don't think Scootaloo Jul 2015 #23
+++++++++++++ swilton Jul 2015 #44
Great answer marym625 Jul 2015 #16
I read O'malley's Super PAC aspirant Jul 2015 #33
I honestly haven't followed his stuff much marym625 Jul 2015 #39
I pretty much agree with your assessment. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #18
What's his answer? OK I will? Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #28
He should give his honest answer about how to fix the criminal justice system Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #29
Watch the video. You tell me what happened. What you read doesn't resemble reality. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #21
"But I play one on DU." R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #24
LOL good one. retrowire Jul 2015 #25
Watch the video. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #27
I am in Phoenix and I want to share my thoughts on this. TM99 Jul 2015 #30
I wondered about the Clinton campaign too MissDeeds Jul 2015 #37
They started chanted almost before Bernie had a chance to say anything, then wouldn't stop. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #38
I think this was obviously orchestrated - TBF Jul 2015 #41
I think Bernie should give a separate speech to #BLACKLIVESMATTER Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #46
There is no way to handle a bunch of loudmouths Warpy Jul 2015 #34
Within minutes, the same person posted "trainwreck for Bernie" in multiple threads. djean111 Jul 2015 #36
^ Agree with your assessment 100%. nt TBF Jul 2015 #42
+^ swilton Jul 2015 #45
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