Bernie Sanders

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71. They are establishment politicians, they don't want to be 'outsiders'.

Tue Sep 1, 2015, 05:12 PM

Sep 2015

In many ways they are all that has been wrong about the Dem Party for a long time.

Dean was always pretty Conservative, he was no Bernie that's for sure. If Bush wasn't the threat back then, people might have noticed more about the candidates they were supporting.

They haven't realized yet, from the 'inside' just how much people KNOW now that they didn't know ten years ago.

And they probably are establishing their creds with the Party, assuming things will return to 'normal' once Bernie is out of the race.

And I believe they are okay with the way things are.

Which makes them so far removed from the people it makes you wonder, that they think they can still influence the people, as they once did.

Bernie tried to tell them, they need to wake up or they will lose. An awful lot of 'nose-holders' are not going to do that anymore.

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You guys HAVE TO see this - Howard Dean�s Facebook page has been invaded! [View all] dorkzilla Sep 2015 OP

Nice to see that most of the posts were pro-Sanders instead of anti-Clinton arcane1 Sep 2015 #1

It�s crazy!!!!! Like 95% of the responses are pro-Bernie! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #2

Twitter and Facebook can be very unforgiving places! arcane1 Sep 2015 #3

I'm sure he thought very carefully about what would serve his interests best. merrily Sep 2015 #12

Ya think? LOL!!! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #14

Not so surprising when you think about it. zeemike Sep 2015 #26

49 out of 50 on page 1. 98%. One lonely response (2%) for O'Malley. magical thyme Sep 2015 #128

Many are anti-Dean, though. merrily Sep 2015 #10

100s of "are you kidding" to each "right on" emsimon33 Sep 2015 #19

reads the first 100. Only one pro hill comment there. :D:D:D roguevalley Sep 2015 #60

Seems as Howard is well liked, but his opinion is being ripped. They are brutal. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #4

Just out of curiosity, I went to the Facebook page of my Senator, Al Franken, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #5

Good, that was a big let down. Why did he spout-off so early? nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #7

They are establishment politicians, they don't want to be 'outsiders'. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #71

After the primaries are finished, I'm thinking about dropping my party affiliation. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #74

Bernie is briging a lot of non-voters and Independents to the party, since they have be registered sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #77

well Robbins Sep 2015 #84

For the first time Lordquinton Sep 2015 #114

"Dean was always pretty Conservative" whathehell Sep 2015 #80

Dean was never "conservative" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #102

Agreed. What happened to him? glinda Sep 2015 #111

Thank you for the heads up emsimon33 Sep 2015 #20

Me too!!! baran Sep 2015 #73

Al Franken gone status quo malokvale77 Sep 2015 #99

True. Al is not totally there but has started down the Monsanto path, etc..... glinda Sep 2015 #112

Al has just become too comfortable malokvale77 Sep 2015 #116

Sullying ones own name must be lucrative these days. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #6

I�m especially confused about Howard dorkzilla Sep 2015 #8

I think he's in the loop now, has a cush going on. Life is good, life is easy. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #9

I never realized how rich Dean's family was and a number of other things. merrily Sep 2015 #11

I didn�t realize he came from money... dorkzilla Sep 2015 #13

I don't know if it was inherited money or not. merrily Sep 2015 #15

I just realized that my �blue-blood� blood dorkzilla Sep 2015 #16

No worries. merrily Sep 2015 #17

You gibs me teh sadz merrily dorkzilla Sep 2015 #48

I guess we are related then. zeemike Sep 2015 #31

Wow! I actually think there are a few of us here who have that strain in us. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #37

Tracing your ancestors can be revealing. zeemike Sep 2015 #64

Yeah especially if you dig down the Winslow line... dorkzilla Sep 2015 #65

My fathers side had the Irish suck up zeemike Sep 2015 #68

Actually the Irish were almost zealots when it comes to birth/marriage/death records dorkzilla Sep 2015 #70

Actually I do know a lot about them zeemike Sep 2015 #82

I left him a piece of my mind! emsimon33 Sep 2015 #18

That's a horrible thing to say shenmue Sep 2015 #22

This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Sep 2015 #52

The greater horror is that Howard Dean is now a sell out emsimon33 Sep 2015 #67

Maybe they just kidnapped his brain dorkzilla Sep 2015 #50

I just posted a damning comparison between Bernie & Mrs. Clinton on progressive issues emsimon33 Sep 2015 #83

Link please. I'd love to read your post. Thanks. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #117

Hillary might make him National Dog Catcher if he's lucky BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #125

LOL! He�ll be Secretary of the White House Toilets perhaps dorkzilla Sep 2015 #131

The oligarchy is kidnapping Dem families? L0oniX Sep 2015 #75

I guess I am a romantic emsimon33 Sep 2015 #81

One of my responses on his Facebook page emsimon33 Sep 2015 #85

GREAT post...n/t. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #87

No kidding on the last part. glinda Sep 2015 #113

You think! emsimon33 Sep 2015 #115

Yes. navarth Sep 2015 #129

I loved the Dean bats Cry Sep 2015 #21

. Fearless Sep 2015 #23

Quite a resounding rebuke Kenjie Sep 2015 #24

He has certainly lost his creds. emsimon33 Sep 2015 #86

Oh yes, for sure. 840high Sep 2015 #109

Yes, comments like "Hillary is the most qualified, but I am voting for Bernie" ???WTF! nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #25

The comment I saw was �Hillary is well-qualified but I am voting for Bernie" dorkzilla Sep 2015 #59

do you really think we aren't capable of, or wouldn't bother, reading the actual replies? magical thyme Sep 2015 #130

Because this is the way we should treat life-long Dems who stuck their necks out for us. kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #27

People disagree with him. Does being a life-long Dem absolve him of any criticism? frylock Sep 2015 #36

Of course it should'nt ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #121

Thanks. I worked hard for Dean when he went against BushCheney. I'll see you elsewhere..... Hekate Sep 2015 #49

Someone should remind him that supporting Hillary Clinton won't get his DNC job back... cascadiance Sep 2015 #28

I think it's clear Dean's been offered a cushy cabinet position of some kind 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #106

And we Dems should be joyful about this because we know for sure that the posters are not GOP? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #29

Did you bother to READ any of the comments? frylock Sep 2015 #39

Well I know now that me and a lot of friends are on there posting so no, they�re not GOP puppets dorkzilla Sep 2015 #40

This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Sep 2015 #47

Dean is being brutally excoriated & rightly so! Divernan Sep 2015 #30

She's given PLENTY of policy details, which apparently Gloria Sep 2015 #35

Sweetie! You ignored this is the Bernie Sanders group! Buh-bye! Divernan Sep 2015 #43

Hoo boy: Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #32

Nothing like eating your own... Gloria Sep 2015 #33

This is the Bernie Sanders group here... mak3cats Sep 2015 #38

"There's a real fanaticism here..." frylock Sep 2015 #42

So Dean saying she is the �smartest and toughest� before the candidate has been picked isn�t? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #44

"Stupid" is flat out lying about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia Divernan Sep 2015 #45

revenge lists are very republican/nixonian. what a wanker. roguevalley Sep 2015 #61

Ironically, given that this is the Sanders group, the mature thing that should happen ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #93

Whee! I got my first nastygram private message from a HRC supporter! Divernan Sep 2015 #100

Wow!! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #133

Why are you here? 840high Sep 2015 #110

Thanks! I just added my two cents. Bernie or bust! #feelthebern nt silvershadow Sep 2015 #34

You go, silvershadow!! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #46

It is sad. And quite unexpected. nt silvershadow Sep 2015 #78

Lol that's great azurnoir Sep 2015 #41

This showed up on the front page. You folks have completely lost your way. Hekate Sep 2015 #51

You're the one who's lost. smokey nj Sep 2015 #53

Because its TRENDING. You do know how that works, right???? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #54

Someone show Hekate the door, please. frylock Sep 2015 #56

Already done. smokey nj Sep 2015 #58

frylock, you rule. that is all. :D:D:D roguevalley Sep 2015 #63

wrong group to tut-tut in, hekate. roguevalley Sep 2015 #62

LOL, right? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #66

It did? Well then FEEL THE BERN!!! cui bono Sep 2015 #97

Thanks Faux pas Sep 2015 #55

Pretty funny! peacebird Sep 2015 #57

If you guys rememberd the primaries d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #69

I love this response: bvar22 Sep 2015 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author dorkzilla Sep 2015 #88

That post was particularly brilliant I thought dorkzilla Sep 2015 #89

I just found out that the person who penned the post.... bvar22 Sep 2015 #95

I'm not surprised! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #98

This is beautiful... ion_theory Sep 2015 #76

And they will - the thing that strikes one almost immediately from the photos of his rallies dorkzilla Sep 2015 #91

most excellent! bbgrunt Sep 2015 #79

Thanks for the heads up. Got my "Reply" in ;)! (nt) Babel_17 Sep 2015 #90

Good for you! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #92

Vilsack should be similarly "invaded" - he LiberalElite Sep 2015 #94

Nobody cares what Vilsack thinks TSIAS Sep 2015 #103

The people are speaking. Time for the party to listen. cui bono Sep 2015 #96

Very powerful & moving comment. Divernan Sep 2015 #101

Dean should have realized that his former supporters are too smart to mhatrw Sep 2015 #104

Er...might be an unpopular opinion JackInGreen Sep 2015 #105

OK, but why can't people criticize people who don't think Dean should be criticized mhatrw Sep 2015 #108

Just the nasty quotient really, and snark can get there fast JackInGreen Sep 2015 #118

"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.� MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #107

K&R'd for the comments. snot Sep 2015 #119

Awe inspiring! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #120

I was part of the invasion. EEO Sep 2015 #122

What a disappointment to see Howard Dean supporting Hillary. mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #123

Teehee! Giggle! Politicub Sep 2015 #124

Wow - what a burn. This is the SANDERS GROUP. Thanks Buh-bye!!!!!!! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #134

I can no longer stick with Dean because of his establishment trappings; he's out, along with DWS. ancianita Sep 2015 #126

Just shows how imperfect Dean is and his ties to the DNC. zomgitsjesus Sep 2015 #127

Priceless. That will garner some attention by establishment candidates NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #132

Governor Dean picked a side regarding Iran, so maybe that disposes him ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #135

That is eye-opening dorkzilla Sep 2015 #136

It might be "down the rabbit hole" level, so ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #137

The Group Thingy Geronimoe Sep 2015 #138

Ouch Roy Rolling Sep 2015 #139