Bernie Sanders

merrily

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18. Again, what right does anyone have to unleash a war for the sake of their image?

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:01 AM

Sep 2015

That was my question.

I didn't make a statement about electability of liberals vs. centrists. I made a statement about when people have the right to vote fir kids to die and bleed and get PTSD and for destruction and destabilization of another nation, all at great cost, and possible danger, to everyone in the US.

But I think that Sanders, Chafee, Feingold and Ted Kennedy were already established. It seemed to affect the "up and comers" the most

Not accurate. 126 House Democrats voted against the invasion, plus one indie (Bernie).

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/h455

They were not all well established--and Feingold's seat was obviously not guaranteed, either. Besides, Hillary was not an up and comer anyway. If anyone is established in the Democratic Party, it's United States Senators and the President and the President then was not a Democrat.

21 Democratic Senators voted against it. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s237 The others had incredibly bad judgment or self interest of such a degree that there is no excusing it.

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The Atlantic: �Hillary 2016� Has Never Made Sense for Democrats [View all] LiberalElite Sep 2015 OP

This - djean111 Sep 2015 #1

Except for Bernie LiberalElite Sep 2015 #2

I think HRC and a lot of Democrats that were of the Viet Nam era are still fighting the stigma LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #10

Which era are Sanders, Chafee, Feingold and Ted Kennedy from? merrily Sep 2015 #13

You know as well as I do that a lot of Democrats fell for that crap, that they had to move away LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #16

Again, what right does anyone have to unleash a war for the sake of their image? merrily Sep 2015 #18

I don't know. I don't believe in pre-empted war anyway. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #20

Well that is how triangulation works. zeemike Sep 2015 #24

I think a lot of our problems started with China. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #28

Well that is an interesting point. zeemike Sep 2015 #29

Of course it doesn't - TBF Sep 2015 #3

Connections, she's got em. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #4

And they dislike her just about as much as I do Demeter Sep 2015 #9

Bernie is the heart of the left Sinan Sep 2015 #5

Nice. Hopefully she isn't our nom but rgardless I will vote my conscience, thank you very much. peacebird Sep 2015 #8

^^^ This ^^^ eom Tommymac Sep 2015 #25

I could not agree more... if it comes to a choice between Hillary and a Republican, we need to secondwind Sep 2015 #17

If we totally lose control of the Exec and Legislative branches to the oligarchy's chosen ones ... Tommymac Sep 2015 #26

What guarantee do you have that Clinton's SCOTUS nominees would be any better than a republican? tularetom Sep 2015 #30

^^^^^^ THIS, THIS, THIS!!!!!!^^^^^^ SoapBox Sep 2015 #33

Ask Democrats if they prefer Medicare for All to preserving Obamacare, expanding OASDI to reducing merrily Sep 2015 #6

You know, considering that I would bet that 90% of the Democrats do not know Bernie even exists, LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #11

The media establishment are acting to keep people from hearing his viewpoint. HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author sufrommich Sep 2015 #7

It's a mystery Android3.14 Sep 2015 #12

And the fact that control of the Democratic Party is in the hands of Clintonites and other Third Way merrily Sep 2015 #15

Never. Never ever. FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #14

WTF??? "strengthening labor unions"???? What has HRC done for labor? nt antigop Sep 2015 #19

Please see Reply 6 merrily Sep 2015 #21

Substitute any of the repug candidates for her name and it begs the same questions. But we aren't asking them that q Laser102 Sep 2015 #23

Because DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #27

Well and truly stated. Thank you! djean111 Sep 2015 #31

Most excellent post, thank you. seafan Sep 2015 #32

Oughtta be an OP n/t Scootaloo Sep 2015 #34

K&R fbc Sep 2015 #35

Agreed kenfrequed Sep 2015 #36