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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:40 AM

7. Your questions, one by one.

1: Is he tough enough to win. Does he understand that politics is war without the shooting?

Bernie has a long history of being elected against all odds, first around 8 years as mayor of Burlington, Vermont and then beginning in 1990 to Congress, both the House and Senate. That is well over 30 years in elected office, both in executive and legislative posts.

Prior to his successful campaigns, he ran unsuccessful ones. He ran against people with far more money than he had, and he won. I think we can safely say that he is tough enough to win and that he understands what politics is about.

While one aspect of politics is "war without the shooting," another aspect is representing your constituents, in the case of the president, all the people of the United States and knowing when to compromise and how to get the best deal. Bernie's many years of experience and his tough approach in his speeches and in his policy proposals strongly suggest that, yes, he is tough enough to win.

Bernie also has a plan for winning after he has been elected, and that is to mobilize his supporters to petition Congress and to continue to strongly back him in an organized way once he is elected.

One of the first things I noticed about Bernie's campaign speeches, was his use of "we" and especially his apparent idea that "we will deal with Congress."

In her early speeches, Hillary approached the campaign as "You elect me and I will deal with Congress." I think Bernie's approach is a winner. The "we" idea certainly prevailed when it came to the net neutrality question.

It may be tougher if we get a Republican Congress, but if Bernie successfully pulls of the "we" strategy during his presidency, "we" are more likely to have a Democratic Congress throughout his tenure in the White House.

2: Does he understand that government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force.

Government is not just reason, and not just eloquence, but it is also not just force. It is a combination. Reason and eloquence are the tools of the successful politician. If he uses them well, he rarely has to resort to force. Bernie is past master of this. As mayor of Burlington, Bernie managed to redevelop land into a beautiful park and instituted some police reforms that worked well among other things. A weak executive or mayor cannot accomplish those kinds of projects or improvements and be elected to four two-year terms. Bernie has proved that he knows how to govern.

Force is to be used as a last resort. Bernie demonstrates in his speeches over and over that he understands that. For one thing, he tells his audiences in no uncertain terms that no president can change policy, can win victories for the people, without the active support of the people. Our Constitution proposes and guarantees a government by elected representatives. Lincoln who certainly used force successfully while president described it as government of the people, for the people an by the people. Government that lives up to the ideals of our Constitution and of Lincoln's vision will wield the force of the people in the interests of the people.

Bernie's vision on national security is that force is a last resort and that it is appropriate in response to an attack and in response to genocide but always a last resort.

Bernie's rise in the polls is due to his ability to present a forceful message to voters. I don't think that constitutional government is a government of presidential force. It is a government of the people's force. I think Bernie agrees on this.

This is the age of the internet. Social relationships are changing. For many reasons including the environmental threats that all of humanity faces, we are becoming a society in which cooperation is required for our survival. I think Bernie's views are so popular because he is very much attuned to the needs and spirit of our new age of the internet and our innovative technologies.

Force is important, but being able to inspire cooperation is more so in this day and age. I say that as one that passed the Google campus in the last week and am reminded of their approach to problem-solving. I think Bernie is in tune with our era.

3: If elected as a Democrat, will he govern as a Democrat. Or will he attempt to 'reach across the aisle,' 'form a bipartisan consensus' or other such caving in?

Bernie has put his agenda out there. You can find it at his website, Bernie Sanders, 2016 or Feel the Bern.com. You can also listen to his speeches.

Bernie is, of all the candidates, the least likely to just cave in on the issues. He is who he is, messy hair and rolled up sleeves and all. He is not going to sponsor some crazy and unnecessary law to outlaw flag burning just to please his Republican critics. He has been in government for over 30 years, both in an executive position to which he was elected to four successive two-year terms and in Congress to which he was elected in 1990. He ran as an Independent but caucused with Democrats, helped found the Progressive Democratic Congress and supported Democrats in elections on numerous occasions.

Bernie will govern as a Democrat. He will also appeal to Independents.

I hope I answered your questions. That is my judgment or opinion if you will.

Here, another source of information on Bernie which backs up my factual statements about him.


I am a life-long FDR Democrat, and I support Bernie Sanders.

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