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Bernie Sanders

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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:57 PM Oct 2015

So, my fellow Sandernistas, what do we do with the MSM after Tuesday night? [View all]

To make one point clear, I don't it's proper to speak of a "winner" in the "debate." A debate is two people or teams arguing a single topic in a specified format. What we've been calling a "presidential debate" for years, especially during the primary season, is simply a mass press conference where the invited candidates field question from a moderator or another reporter whom the moderator recognizes.

The candidates don't so much "win" as they do what they need to do. For Bernie Sanders, that was introduce himself to many people who have never heard of him until now and make a favorable impression. He accomplished that. Those who think otherwise will have to explain away the focus group results and his increased fundraising since Tuesday night. His performance Tuesday night was a success.

I would also call Mrs. Clinton's performance a "success." She didn't make a complete fool of herself and that is what a front runner needs to do.

She's still not the one making a fool of herself. That's a role being filled by the august members of punditocracy.

It is not that they call Hillary a "winner" that irks me. I'd be OK with that if they also recognized that Bernie also was just as much a winner as Hillary, or, as I suggest, call them both "successes" after Tuesday night.

That, of course, is not being done. We Sandernistas have every cause to complain about media bias right now.

What irks me even more that treating Mrs. Clinton like the only success Tuesday is the orgy of hyperbole that establishment pundits are using to describe Mrs. Clinton's performance. She didn't do herself any damage, but "crushing" and "commanding" are just the oligarchs' fantasies about her performance. Such words do not fit the lady on stage Tuesday night.

I'll admit to being a little biased, too. I think Hillary is the Wall Street banksters' moll and there isn't very much she or anyone else can do to dissuade me of that. Voting for her, even against unsavory lunatic like Trump, will be a difficult thing to do.

However, I am reserving my ire for the media, both print and broadcast. This is the most pathetic performance I seen from them since the run up to start the Frat Boy's Mesopotamian misadventure. They were then behaving like Baghdad Bob and there are now as well. We will never forget how the Iraqi information minister was talking bravado as American tanks rolled into Baghdad behind his back. Our media, like Baghdad Bob, are reporting one thing and using brave words to describe it as we plainly see something quite different happening right behind them.

I really tired of this. Can we think of something to do? Suggestions are welcome, but please make it more effective than hanging a particularly offensive journalist in effigy or sending another to the guillotine (I've already thought of that, and it's not going to happen).

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I'm going to ignore them, as usual Demeter Oct 2015 #1
Last I heard, M$M is "shutting down GOTV every chance it gets. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #18
I think we do what we have always done. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #2
+100 That is what the young folks are doing and many times their voices are not counted in polls ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #14
word up frylock Oct 2015 #17
We have to stick with progressive sites on the internet, and make sure we support them YOHABLO Oct 2015 #24
Myself- ruffburr Oct 2015 #3
And I also come to DU!! eom Duval Oct 2015 #16
I often wonder why people watch the oldandhappy Oct 2015 #4
I hear you, but sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #10
Nailed it! Not Sure Oct 2015 #21
We will continue to support Bernie for the D nomination. edgineered Oct 2015 #5
I'm going to cancel my NYTimes subscription and tell them why. senz Oct 2015 #6
If you're thinking of cutting the cord, there are a couple of good subreddits on that. I cut the Stardust Oct 2015 #36
Would agitating for zentrum Oct 2015 #7
DURec. bvar22 Oct 2015 #8
Few people trust the mainstream media these days it seems, but even with that said... stillwaiting Oct 2015 #9
The national poll published today included a large majority who did not even see the debate . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #11
That's an important and tell-tale point, like asking "what did M$M tell you happened in the debate?" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #19
Back in the day we used to use fanzines to spread the word Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #12
good idea Kalidurga Oct 2015 #34
Good question. What I would like to see: dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #13
Haystack is an app that casts to Chomecast. They let you choose which network you prefer for news, Stardust Oct 2015 #37
Stay on message with Bernie. jalan48 Oct 2015 #15
I find a touch of Fire and Brimstone is very tempting... Ford_Prefect Oct 2015 #20
Bloggers for Bernie waldo.c Oct 2015 #22
Excellent suggestions, waldo. senz Oct 2015 #32
Driftglass is great! Stardust Oct 2015 #38
MSM: Less Relevant Every Day Bernin4U Oct 2015 #23
I turned it off over 20 years ago Geronimoe Oct 2015 #25
According to the polls the public doesn't trust the media.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #26
Connect the dots , ask when the last time M$M, told the truth, anything that would inform, educate orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #27
It's all fixed SmittynMo Oct 2015 #28
Good post! Keep up the fight. nt ladjf Oct 2015 #29
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #30
Any contact I might have with the MSM is strictly on my terms tularetom Oct 2015 #31
I dumped cable months ago.. CentralMass Oct 2015 #33
I think the best way we can get around the nonsense spewed by the MSM is..... n8dogg83 Oct 2015 #35
Vote your conscience. That'l show 'em. JEB Oct 2015 #39
Call them out, then capitalize on their behavior (nt) Babel_17 Oct 2015 #40
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