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Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:05 AM

1. Yes!

Get off the corporate bandwagon and lend a hand, it is not the time for business as usual, the planet is overheating and capitalism won't be satisfied until it profits off of our own destruction.

Join us in our fight, there is no time to lose and we're up against long odds, we (all of us) desperately need for this to happen.

Sanders and Warren are definitely part of the solution. If Hillary would have an epiphany and fully commit to reform, she is intelligent and strong and would make an excellent ally too, but I mean a total complete conversion experience, otherwise she is fighting for the extinction team, quite literally.

Please see past my lame attempts to communicate the importance of this, and see behind it to the reality it comes from. This crisis is real, people, wake up and commit.

In my opinion this study understates or simply doesn't even begin to address the worst of outcomes, which on our current trajectory will surely come to pass. But it is hopefully enough to begin to appreciate the magnitude of what is coming.

It's Too Late to Save Over 400 U.S. Cities From Rising Seas, Scientists Say | Alternet
http://www.alternet.org/environment/rising-sea-levels-will-overtake-hundreds-american-cities

and to head off the inevitable cries of "why change when it's already too late" BS, it's too late for a few outcomes (New Orleans and Miami, for instance), but it's not at all too late to survive as a species, or at least to keep earth as an inhabitable planet (this is a possible outcome, that a chain reaction of methane clathrates and sulfuric acid releases poison our atmosphere and kill everything on this planet)

don't know if this is a good source, but it explains the problem
Planet Extinction - The Clathrate 'Smoking Gun'
http://www.planetextinction.com/planet_extinction_clathrates.htm

Back to bad but less doomsday futures:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027266411#post34

"In our analysis, a lot of cities have futures that depend on our carbon choices but some appear to be already lost...

...

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/10/07/1511186112

Carbon choices determine US cities committed to futures below sea level

The total area includes 1,185Ė1,825 municipalities where land that is home to more than half of the current population would be affected, among them at least 21 cities exceeding 100,000 residents. Under aggressive carbon cuts, more than half of these municipalities would avoid this commitment if the West Antarctic Ice Sheet remains stable. Similarly, more than half of the US population-weighted area under threat could be spared. We provide lists of implicated cities and state populations for different emissions scenarios and with and without a certain collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. Although past anthropogenic emissions already have caused sea-level commitment that will force coastal cities to adapt, future emissions will determine which areas we can continue to occupy or may have to abandon.


The PDF containing the supporting datasets they used for different cities and carbon scenarios can be downloaded here:

http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2015/10/08/1511186112.DCSupplemental

It does appear as if a number of cities, including Miami and New Orleans, are beyond hope no matter how much carbon we reduce. Let's hope we can turn this thing around in time to prevent collapse on a scale we can't survive.

Anyone who believes supporting the current status quo third way corporatist du jour is a step in the right direction is fooling themselves, corporate greed has gotten us into this mess. Just leave those games behind and commit to the magnitude of change we all know has to happen. This isn't about your candidate or mine, it's about having a future.

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