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MisterP

(23,730 posts)
54. there's a qualitative difference between the party's two wings: one supports a pol because
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 12:36 PM
Apr 2015

they'll push policies X, Y, and Z; the other gets louder when the pol openly denounces X, Y, and Z, points fingers at those foolish bigmouths who still want X, Y, and Z, says that the pol is in fact more for X, Y, and Z than anyone in human history (including Jesus), and eventually admits the pol could have every other person in the country executed and it wouldn't matter to them because it's just a political crush that gets stronger the less it's rewarded

so Bernie (and Dean, and Edwards) supporters *very readily* condemn the candidates when they turn coat on an issue or applaud the Gaza War or whatever: we've seen this since the 2002 primaries, since they're not personalists; and the types supporting Bernie have developed a tough skin over the past decade and a half (or longer, if they were battling Reagan), so the bar's higher than a "safe space" you get purged from for contradicting an op-ed with mere *facts*

so, hypothetically, one sticking point might be guns--but there's a difference between us Bernie Boosters trying to goad him into pointing out that *literally 90% of Americans, and 70-80% of NRA members,* have been demanding change on sales and registration since 2012, and that the issue's a wedge/distraction that even the GOP doesn't believe in any more vs. Bernie temporarily saying that GOA doesn't go far enough so as to win NH or TX or whatever

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Well we can't block anybody yet since our hosts haven't smokey nj Apr 2015 #1
Seriously, if this group acts like the other two I have mentioned then what difference are the R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #3
these groups are for their supporters, not their detractors notadmblnd Apr 2015 #52
Showing fair criticism is not being a detractor. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #55
And it's not supportive either notadmblnd May 2015 #57
Really? You believe that 'fair' criticism R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #58
consider being kicked out of the Tiger Beat club a badge of honor Skittles Apr 2015 #2
This is what got me punted... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #4
What's wrong with echo chambers? joshcryer Apr 2015 #7
Just a reminder this is a safe haven for supporters of Bernie Sanders. smokey nj Apr 2015 #9
Thanks. joshcryer Apr 2015 #11
He didn't indicate whether or not he's a supporter of smokey nj Apr 2015 #12
The "reminder" seems out of place. joshcryer Apr 2015 #13
It was a polite reminder, nothing more. smokey nj Apr 2015 #14
"I don't believe you are a supporter of Bernie Sanders." joshcryer Apr 2015 #15
It was a response based your posts on smokey nj Apr 2015 #16
What posts? joshcryer Apr 2015 #17
I didn't malign you or attack you smokey nj Apr 2015 #19
"I don't believe you are a supporter of Bernie Sanders." joshcryer Apr 2015 #20
Dude, I just woke up. I apologize, seriously. smokey nj Apr 2015 #21
No worries. joshcryer Apr 2015 #22
Thanks Josh fir your concerns. Friends? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #39
Alright... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #35
You are a prime example of why safe havens should not be allowed on DU. A Simple Game Apr 2015 #56
I support any candidate that will talk about R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #34
That's a concern, but so far it doesn't seem the main smokey nj Apr 2015 #37
Thank you for your concern. merrily Apr 2015 #42
It isn't my first comment about Senator Sanders personally, but R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #45
This sub-thread a perfect example ... earthside Apr 2015 #36
What's wrong with this subthread? A misunderstanding smokey nj Apr 2015 #38
What's wrong? earthside Apr 2015 #40
josh wasn't blocked. smokey nj Apr 2015 #41
There are other places on the board to post criticism of Bernie. This is not one of them. merrily Apr 2015 #43
Good point. Agschmid Apr 2015 #49
IMO, there ought to be a difference between a group and GD or there is little point to a group. merrily Apr 2015 #50
Oh, but he is so DREAMY without his shirt on. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #28
he actually does look pretty good without a shirt Skittles May 2015 #59
Why? daleanime Apr 2015 #5
I would presume that this group TM99 Apr 2015 #6
This is a safe haven. Any negativity you have can be posted in GD, and, I assure you, djean111 Apr 2015 #8
Have you bothered to read the Statement of Purpose for this and the other groups??? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #10
I never got the thing with visiting groups smokey nj Apr 2015 #18
It's a discussion board... Agschmid Apr 2015 #30
I'm more or less talking about the group wars that happen smokey nj Apr 2015 #32
I get that. Agschmid Apr 2015 #33
Please see Reply 43. merrily Apr 2015 #44
Can you link to it? Agschmid Apr 2015 #46
Sure. merrily Apr 2015 #48
I would hope that legit criticism would be acceptable here. L0oniX Apr 2015 #23
Sounds good to me - 'legit' being the operative word. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #27
I hope so too. When you kick out everyone whose not in lockstep, then Cleita Apr 2015 #29
+1 Agschmid Apr 2015 #31
The Zeroth Law is not generally well understood. Orsino Apr 2015 #24
I'm with LoOniX on this Caretha Apr 2015 #25
Getting kicked out of the BOG is easy. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #26
See post #4 R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #51
Safe Haven merrily Apr 2015 #47
I still don't know what I did to get kicked out of the BOG group tularetom Apr 2015 #53
there's a qualitative difference between the party's two wings: one supports a pol because MisterP Apr 2015 #54
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