Bernie Sanders

tomm2thumbs

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159. I'm confused with reason posted for his removal...

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:41 PM

Dec 2015

From the 'transpareny page', Skinner wrote: Say he will not vote for the Democratic nominee if his favored candidate does not win the nomination, and encouraged other people to do the same. From the TOS: "advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is never permitted on Democratic Underground."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=176002&sub=trans

Does anyone have a copy of the offending post? Is saying one will not show up and vote the same thing as saying one will vote for a Republican nominee or for a third-party candidate? Can anyone post the actual comment that supposedly was the offending comment? It would be nice to know how badly or even if the TOS were actually violated, or if this was a heated misunderstanding and capable of being corrected this weekend.

Thanks

* and yes, I can understand how someone who is operating a website and in support of one candidate would like to downplay others who do not support the same candidate/issue, but I think this place would be pretty lame if there weren't for opposing views stirring up the conversation.

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MannyGoldstein appreciation thread [View all] Bubzer Dec 2015 OP

+1 fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #1

Yes, I will miss his take on things. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #2

Oh no! Matariki Dec 2015 #32

I never saw MannyGoldstein as someone who posted in hothead mode. merrily Dec 2015 #106

Yeah, I agree. Matariki Dec 2015 #108

Funny that the offending post is not available Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #116

I thought that was odd too. Decidedly suspicious. Bubzer Dec 2015 #122

Well that's a load of bullshit. DU is decidedly UNdemocratic. cui bono Dec 2015 #164

The hell you say. KamaAina Dec 2015 #197

That's the post? Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #202

Yup. That's it. KamaAina Dec 2015 #209

WTF, that's it? Beartracks Dec 2015 #206

That's it? wow. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #213

I've seen worse than that here. I've had my posts Pryderi Dec 2015 #244

This explains it exactly...Matariki has the key to it all !!!!!!!!!!! Stuart G Dec 2015 #129

An opinion I agree with. Bubzer Dec 2015 #145

Oh no. I thought the Admins had said they would let statements about not voting for the nominee femmedem Dec 2015 #142

And btw... writing in a Democrat is still voting for a Dem. cui bono Dec 2015 #163

Well, we were all hot headed yesterday - at least I was. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #227

You know that good feeling you get after watching a episode of Intervention that succeeded? Snotcicles Dec 2015 #139

To me also. mahina Dec 2015 #242

I'm getting tired of these. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #3

very tired.... daleanime Dec 2015 #34

Love me some manny. :D roguevalley Dec 2015 #63

+1 LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #228

It's worth noting that the playing field is far from even. Hillary supporters are appearantly immune Bubzer Dec 2015 #118

That one was suspended so many times that I stopped counting. Probably holds the record. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #123

Right. And there are a few other hillary supporters who make similar comments who're still here. Bubzer Dec 2015 #126

Very true. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #128

the absolute worst here. and yet... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #144

MRT is truly one of the most obnoxious posters around. Paka Dec 2015 #168

He does know a lot about pretzels, though. QC Dec 2015 #261

Got him and others on ignore... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #272

Well, see, some animals are more equal... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #263

You rock Manny. jalan48 Dec 2015 #4

. Fearless Dec 2015 #5

I was away for a while Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #6

Yes by Skinner Fearless Dec 2015 #7

Wow! Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #8

This has happened before. It's only the beginning. Fearless Dec 2015 #10

Some people do, at least. Others, not so much. nt villager Dec 2015 #13

Yup. The ToS only applies to Bernie supporters now Scootaloo Dec 2015 #16

Absolutely! DonnaM Dec 2015 #175

Glad you agree. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #252

It seems you do need to be careful here, & what sucks is ... CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #190

Same here. Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #208

Yes, you have to be careful... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #264

+1 Absolutely. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #266

So it is permanent? Thats poorly thought out. Bubzer Dec 2015 #14

It usually is. Skinner wasn't a friend to gay people either Fearless Dec 2015 #15

That's really unfortunate. Dems thrive on freedom of speech... I guess DU is more of a fiefdom. Bubzer Dec 2015 #19

he let rapists who outed themselves stay on a rape thread. he's a hillary roguevalley Dec 2015 #66

For sure. Morning after the 2008 election he congratulated us POC... MadDAsHell Dec 2015 #143

WOW, just WOW.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #229

I remember that Nite Owl Dec 2015 #180

It's safe to assume that Skinner is a fiercely loyal Clinton supporter. Iggo Dec 2015 #130

Fiercely loyal or not, being openly biased is a terrible business move. Bad PR too. Bubzer Dec 2015 #133

I'm saying what it's safe to assume. Iggo Dec 2015 #134

I hear what you're saying. Its iritating that walking on eggshells has become required to be safe. Bubzer Dec 2015 #138

DU is owned, apparently, by the husband of Hillary's 2008 campaign treasurer Dragonfli Dec 2015 #155

Bans should be impartial and rare, IMHO dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #167

Very well reasoned, thank you for taking the time to write it. (nt) Babel_17 Jan 2016 #273

You're quite welcome dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #274

I think Skinner has a bias. His profile Pic is the Hillary H liberalnarb Dec 2015 #90

Yes his preference for candidates is well established Fearless Dec 2015 #100

Eventually this will badly hurt his bank account. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #127

yea grasswire Dec 2015 #171

+1 BeanMusical Dec 2015 #176

Time for a Video... LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #230

Yep! I just donated, but dgibby Dec 2015 #181

Dammit, my automatic renewal of my star membership went through recently. Won't happen again. Hun Joro Dec 2015 #183

"Eventually this will badly hurt his bank account." greiner3 Dec 2015 #221

Apparently just happened. There was the usual jr. high school-level glee about it from some quarters villager Dec 2015 #9

I was thinking more like grade school playground level glee... SoapBox Dec 2015 #11

I don't like that manny got banned awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #113

PPR'ed Bubzer Dec 2015 #12

yes, it's a curious business move grasswire Dec 2015 #22

More like Sears getting rid of retail stores zeemike Dec 2015 #54

It would be nice if there were something like a Liberal Underground, kath Dec 2015 #55

This! beltanefauve Dec 2015 #85

Wish there was Spirochete Dec 2015 #121

Well There's Independent Underground.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #231

There was once a left underground, but that's a whole other story. merrily Jan 2016 #295

Holy shit! nxylas Dec 2015 #17

... ---.... WillyT Dec 2015 #18

Hopefully he will post his wonderful musings on the site he created some time ago Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #20

Thanks for that link! City Lights Dec 2015 #31

^this^ nt Mojorabbit Dec 2015 #47

Thanks for the link! Hepburn Dec 2015 #57

Mega thanks for the link. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #59

Thanks for the link! NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #62

I stop there every now and then, Mbrow Dec 2015 #70

Thanks for that. wilsonbooks Dec 2015 #72

Thanks for the link. I will miss him. madfloridian Dec 2015 #78

Thanks for the link. I hope his blog will be updated more often! LongTomH Dec 2015 #92

Thanks for the link. bvar22 Dec 2015 #177

where's the link to the post that got him banned? tk2kewl Dec 2015 #222

it's not even shut down by a mod/admin MisterP Dec 2015 #270

Bookmarked! LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #232

Manny, we will not grieve. We will keep marching. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #21

I will grieve for the both of us... and I will keep marching. Bubzer Dec 2015 #26

I saw his last post. I refreshed, and it was gone. You will be missed. Gregorian Dec 2015 #23

Bye Manny. I'll miss you. n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #24

IT sucks that we need this thread. Manny has been one of DU's best as long as I've been here. Scuba Dec 2015 #25

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #27

+1 CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #186

The consumate wise ass and satirist JackInGreen Dec 2015 #28

can someone explain what happened.... how people get tombstoned Leftyforever Dec 2015 #29

The admins can block posters from posting Fearless Dec 2015 #42

Do they give reasons or explain why Leftyforever Dec 2015 #44

Yes. Look at Manny's profile page... Fearless Dec 2015 #45

Sad that it's not grammatically correct, either. nilram Dec 2015 #137

. City Lights Dec 2015 #30

Do Not Go Gently .... All The Best Manny cantbeserious Dec 2015 #33

I will miss his humor and posts Jackilope Dec 2015 #35

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #50

Manny, you rock MsLeopard Dec 2015 #36

I am one of those early joiners also... SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #61

It's how much you post which brings in the profits. Divernan Dec 2015 #89

+1 valerief Dec 2015 #37

. LiberalElite Dec 2015 #38

K&R I enjoy your humor. jwirr Dec 2015 #39

Wait until the general. Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2015 #40

. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #41

K/R Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Dec 2015 #248

.... ejbr Dec 2015 #46

Love you, Msnny rbnyc Dec 2015 #48

I'm going to miss Manny a lot, but he was not advocating for a big tent passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #149

You don't need to advocate for big tent... rbnyc Dec 2015 #172

But he was saying basically that he no longer wanted to support it passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #220

DU will be a much less interesting place. nt Chef Eric Dec 2015 #49

Agreed Bubzer Dec 2015 #51

My sentiments exactly wezl Dec 2015 #73

It sure will! MelissaB Dec 2015 #83

Melissas appreciate Manny!! Melissa G Dec 2015 #120

Hey there! MelissaB Dec 2015 #251

You, too. Melissa G Dec 2015 #258

we get to keep his asshole detractors Skittles Dec 2015 #234

+1 BeanMusical Dec 2015 #267

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2015 #268

Kick katsy Dec 2015 #52

Oh No! I've Had To Take Break From Here From Time To Time... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #53

If DU loses all its Sanders supporters, it will lose 75% of its donor revenue. arcane1 Dec 2015 #56

That could hurt. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #58

I suspect our donations are a pittance compared to the revenue Zorra Dec 2015 #75

True, but we're at least 75% of DU's posters too arcane1 Dec 2015 #76

I used to allow ads to be viewed here at DU. I just set my ad blocker to screen them out. Bubzer Dec 2015 #87

Same here. My subscription ended this week and I planned to renew yesterday. arcane1 Dec 2015 #101

I think that you are right but without our traffic the site would wither and die. wilsonbooks Dec 2015 #79

Some here just didn't get his sense of humor.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #60

That's because conservatives don't do humor very well. It goes over their heads. n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #65

Exactly! Plucketeer Dec 2015 #97

He chose his user name well starroute Dec 2015 #64

Love your humor. baran Dec 2015 #67

What did I miss? a2liberal Dec 2015 #68

If any of those Clinton supporters get this treatment, I will be astonished. arcane1 Dec 2015 #74

I've seen Her supporters werknotgoin2takeit Dec 2015 #84

It might be time for me to enact a zero-tolerance policy and start using alert for what it's for. arcane1 Dec 2015 #103

That is too bad. I liked his posts. :( Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #69

Kick and Rec NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #71

Are the DU admins professional DEM staffers? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #77

Oh for fuck's sake. A permanent tombstone? Hissyspit Dec 2015 #80

I know how you feel. nt CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #189

Dammit Manny! nc4bo Dec 2015 #81

I can't Believe it! werknotgoin2takeit Dec 2015 #82

Miss you, Manny. vt_native Dec 2015 #86

Love his biting satire. historylovr Dec 2015 #88

He will be missed angrychair Dec 2015 #91

Rec 100 840high Dec 2015 #93

I'll miss Manny too!!!! LongTomH Dec 2015 #94

Its especially strange because he technically did not violate TOS mentalslavery Dec 2015 #95

We don't have a nominee yet. This breaks my 840high Dec 2015 #99

thats a good point mentalslavery Dec 2015 #153

You've hit on the same thing I was thinking about. CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #193

His ban will not be reversed Paulie Dec 2015 #259

Make trouble for Her Highness, get the ax I guess n/t Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #124

You miss Manny after being here for such a short time? marble falls Dec 2015 #135

I've been here since 2004 beltanefauve Dec 2015 #98

Same here werknotgoin2takeit Dec 2015 #104

Manny is the Man! yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #102

'Moon them back instead' (from Manny's website) sorechasm Dec 2015 #119

Honto desuyo! yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #125

Nice phrase for my memory bank. sorechasm Dec 2015 #151

Wow so did my Girlfriend yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #154

Manny will definitely be missed. bbgrunt Dec 2015 #105

A MannyGoldstein or a WilliamPenn OP or a 10 Dumbest Conservative column.... marble falls Dec 2015 #107

^^ THIS ^^ CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #187

Now I'm pissed. Duppers Dec 2015 #109

... glinda Dec 2015 #110

Manny...always fighting the good fight. AzDar Dec 2015 #111

+1 n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #112

Manny I will miss you, sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #115

Are you fucking kidding me? blackspade Dec 2015 #117

Manny should be reinstated. avaistheone1 Dec 2015 #131

I absolutely agree. Owl Dec 2015 #158

Keep 'em coming, wherever you may! polichick Dec 2015 #132

One of the strongest voices on DU and the biggest reason many kept coming back. last1standing Dec 2015 #136

I always looked forward to read Manny's OPs. Such a big loss for DU. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #140

I'm sorry that it needed to be posted. Bubzer Dec 2015 #150

. mmonk Dec 2015 #141

My Political Views Have Evolved, Why Hasn't DU? Ned Flanders Dec 2015 #146

Well said, n/t Utopian Leftist Dec 2015 #199

K'd to the M! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #147

I always liked his posts BuelahWitch Dec 2015 #148

I will definitely miss his sense of humor. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #152

Merde. GoneOffShore Dec 2015 #156

Aw Fuck!! navarth Dec 2015 #157

+1 CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #195

I'm confused with reason posted for his removal... tomm2thumbs Dec 2015 #159

Manny you rock! DU will be a much less interesting place. Owl Dec 2015 #160

. n2doc Dec 2015 #161

I hate tattletales between peers. pacalo Dec 2015 #162

+1 CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #196

Thank you for pinning! SoapBox Dec 2015 #165

It already is. nt Autumn Dec 2015 #166

Thanks for the pin Bubzer Dec 2015 #169

Manny we miss you. Paka Dec 2015 #170

Manny's wit is always worth listening to, and always appriciated-thank you Manny! midnight Dec 2015 #173

Shame on you Skinner DonnaM Dec 2015 #174

This place needs his input! Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #178

Another huge loss. This is garbage. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #179

Huge loss,this site needs his humor! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #182

I'm finding his new home on the interwebs Matariki Dec 2015 #184

Seems like the more a person contributes ... CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #185

Anyone know if Manny's posting on FB? If so, what name is he using? dgibby Dec 2015 #188

I saw him on Facebook under his regular name Oilwellian Dec 2015 #225

Thanks so much! dgibby Dec 2015 #233

I always clicked on a Manny post. I will miss him and his humor. n/t Bonhomme Richard Dec 2015 #191

I hope Manny regains his posting privileges soon. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #192

MannyGoldstein is a commie pinko who has no place at DU! KamaAina Dec 2015 #194

Please Reinstate Manny. zentrum Dec 2015 #198

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #205

let's just compare the siglines alone MisterP Dec 2015 #200

Manny, you will be sorely missed! Utopian Leftist Dec 2015 #201

I expressed my feelings for and about Manny over in GD-P senz Dec 2015 #203

. libodem Dec 2015 #204

First DNC, and now DU...c'mon Skinner, I've read many comments here every election from voting Nader EndElectoral Dec 2015 #207

What exactly did Manny say? liberalnarb Dec 2015 #224

You bet Old Codger Dec 2015 #210

I'm not sure what happened deutsey Dec 2015 #211

His satire vs. the Third Way was second to none Roland99 Dec 2015 #212

I baked a cake to present to the committee who silenced you, Manny... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #214

Manny appreciation! Start your own blog, Manny... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #215

Personally, I'm holding a 24 hour boycott in his memory. No posts from me tomorrow. nt CaptainTruth Dec 2015 #216

If you really want to boycot, set your ad blocker to block ads on DU. Bubzer Dec 2015 #218

This place is lot less interesting without Manny. But thankfully, he has moved on to better things sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #217

just love Manny marym625 Dec 2015 #219

K&R hay rick Dec 2015 #223

Skinner: Amnesty, commutation, pardons now will save a lot of grief later leveymg Dec 2015 #226

probably will save the site, too grasswire Dec 2015 #236

Imagine an eternity in the Last Post Saloon with only Sid for company . . . shudders. n/t leveymg Dec 2015 #243

hahahahahahahahahahahaha! grasswire Dec 2015 #254

Sid won't be posting for a while. n/t QC Dec 2015 #260

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #257

Gthanks Manny! JDPriestly Dec 2015 #235

K&R. Been following Manny for years. NT Scruffy1 Dec 2015 #237

Here is a post by someone who was not banned in spite of a long history Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #238

better get some screengrabs, she's purged all her past disloyal posts once people MisterP Dec 2015 #255

thank you for that. grasswire Dec 2015 #256

I didn't know that. Alkene Dec 2015 #239

Guess it has come to banning anyone who does not chant the Third Way party line emsimon33 Dec 2015 #240

+ 1 Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #241

Miss you Manny!! lastlib Dec 2015 #245

DU is not the same without you. Wish you well. n/t Jeroen Dec 2015 #246

. kcass1954 Dec 2015 #247

will miss him catrose Dec 2015 #249

K&R MelissaB Dec 2015 #250

Loyalty tests - a very conservative thing. But this is war - Hillary vs. every decent human being whereisjustice Dec 2015 #253

And DU loses another unique voice... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #262

As others on this thread have pointed out... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #265

yeah, I've noticed that the condemnations are full of 10K+ posters, posters around since 2001, MisterP Dec 2015 #269

Well, Skinner will still have Discussionist left to pay the bills. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #271

I am still pissed at this! polly7 Jan 2016 #275

Say it, Sister Android3.14 Jan 2016 #276

Why am I not surprised at who that poster was. On the payroll, as they say. arcane1 Jan 2016 #277

It hurts me deeply to realize this site isn't what I thought it was. polly7 Jan 2016 #278

Someone posted in ATA about several posts like that. Supposedly, the difference was merrily Jan 2016 #280

..... and those four words could certainly be used in whatever context one chose to. polly7 Jan 2016 #282

jackpineradicals.org went to over 500 posters in a couple three days, now over 650. Both numbers say merrily Jan 2016 #283

They sure do. polly7 Jan 2016 #284

+1 Bubzer Jan 2016 #293

I dont know why everyone is so upset. We have jackpineradical.org Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #279

That he and others started jackpineradicals.org (plural--I do the singular a lot, too) does not merrily Jan 2016 #281

Very true, but if DU wants to poison it's own well not much we can do about it Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #285

That is not an issue. merrily Jan 2016 #286

I dont have a problem with it either. Just as long as we can also see this is no longer the only Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #287

We're all registered there. merrily Jan 2016 #288

Cool Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #289

I have no problem kicking the thread, though. merrily Jan 2016 #290

:) Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #291

I like jackpineradical.org, and love that I get to keep reading Manny's posts... Bubzer Jan 2016 #292

Jackpine Radicals is certainly a pleasant and positive site. delrem Jan 2016 #294