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gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
17. I have seen that sentiment expressed here more time than I can count...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

... but those people were not banned, so something really stinks here. There is a double standard being applied, and that's just wrong. Manny was smart, funny, and insightful, but he did not suffer fools gladly, and he had ZERO tolerance for the kind of skulduggery that has been the hallmark of certain factions who have no compunctions about burning bridges.

I have not been here as long as many, but I'm older than most and I have endeavored to make a worthwhile contribution with the wisdom and insight I have gained through careful observation over several decades.

So here's an observation for ya: Manny didn't put a gun to anyone's head. He expressed his displeasure in the heat of the moment, but no one has to agree with him, no one sustained grievous wounds, and I really don't think Hillary gives a shit what's said here. I support Bernie, but if Hillary gets the nomination, so be it; I will support her. But when she transgresses, I will call her out for it, just as I have Obama.

Banning Manny was wrong. Period. And the malice I have witnessed during this brouhaha with the DNC does not reflect well on those who express it, nor on DU, which I have come to love and admire. But nobody's perfect, and loving and admiring something or someone doesn't mean I won't speak out when when they screw up. One very telling measure of someone's quality is demonstrated by how they react when they know they've made a mistake.

So there.

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very grateful to Skinner/DU & I don't normally post on "Meta," but yes, I hope this decision is reconsidered n/t zazen Dec 2015 #1
Please Reinstate The Guy billhicks76 Dec 2015 #11
Except that he didn't express ambivalence. potone Dec 2015 #2
Yes. Yes, you are. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #6
DUers have been threatening... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #7
We don't have a nominee yet. 840high Dec 2015 #15
I have seen that sentiment expressed here more time than I can count... gregcrawford Dec 2015 #17
I've got nothing against Manny. potone Dec 2015 #39
Except that's not what happened here. There is no Democratic nominee as yet. The ToS wasn't violated Bubzer Dec 2015 #40
Considering what I've read from many others I have to admit I find the whole deal suspect.. AuntPatsy Dec 2015 #3
he never said he'd vote for an R or a 3rd party. abstaining is not voting against. nashville_brook Dec 2015 #4
Nice catch. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #5
K&R n/t femmedem Dec 2015 #8
I wondered about that wording. Does seem to mean only in time of GE and not the Primary. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #9
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"--Animal Farm Proserpina Dec 2015 #10
Skinner, please reconsider . . . baran Dec 2015 #12
I also hope Manny's tombstoning will be reconsidered Samantha Dec 2015 #13
Reinstate Manny! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #14
....x10+ 840high Dec 2015 #16
+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #18
Long live Manny! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #19
Well Old Codger Dec 2015 #20
I am frankly disappointing and shocked at the rate DU is being cleansed davidpdx Dec 2015 #21
I'll probably be gone Bernblu Dec 2015 #24
The purge continues. blackspade Dec 2015 #22
I'm not renewing my star next year and will likely leave davidpdx Dec 2015 #25
Actually it looks like the Hillary folks are now blocking folks from their groups PFunk1 Dec 2015 #26
I agree but the site owners seem to be in the bag for Clinton. Bernblu Dec 2015 #23
Indeed, but the elite bias is strong... Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #27
What's that first sentence in your excerpt? Skinner Dec 2015 #28
Which Republican... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #29
Any liberal candidate that is not the Democratic nominee is a third-party spoiler. Skinner Dec 2015 #30
As of right now... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #32
Except we're not talking about now. We're talking about the general election in November 2016. Skinner Dec 2015 #33
That's correct... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #34
A crystal ball is not necessary. Skinner Dec 2015 #35
Since that hasn't happened yet... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #37
"I'm planning on winning the lottery someday... You're advocating punishment for a thought crime." BeanMusical Dec 2015 #45
A crystal ball is not necessary. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #38
I'm with you AlbertCat. Bubzer Dec 2015 #43
+1000 BeanMusical Dec 2015 #44
I'll also be expecting your fine-tooth-comb to be used on your fellow hillary supporters post-haste. Bubzer Dec 2015 #42
+1 Totally agree. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #47
Come on skinner.... mentalslavery Dec 2015 #49
I'm glad to hear you have such strong feelings over this and look forward to your fair application. Bubzer Dec 2015 #41
Then why is Moo-Rah-whatever-his-name-is still here? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #48
Thankfully you apply that evenly.... oh wait... truebrit71 Dec 2015 #31
MG did not advocate voting for the GOP or a 3rd party TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #36
Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #46
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