Bernie Sanders

earthside

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109. I've been here since 2003.

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:10 PM

Dec 2015

DU has always been a fun place and I have found so much good information here.

I aways like the 'Underground' notion that is in the name ... that connotes a touch of radicalism, avant grade, daring.

And that is the case some of the time. Except whenever Hillary Clinton has been running for president.

The conservatism and reactionary supporters of her were terribly disruptive in 2008 and they are doing it again.

What is particularly bad this time is that more and more DU is like posting in politically correct zone ... you really do have to be careful about everything you write, every opinion you share, because you could be 'alerted' by the Hillarians or you could be banned. There is 'fear' here and that is pretty weird and pretty sad.

The 'safe places' I think were a particularly bad idea; a refuge for the like-minded to build walls and keep out challenges and questions is distinctly not "underground" nor is that especially "democratic" either.

The best thing about DU is still the interface, it is by far one of the best and easiest web sites to read and post in, so I recognize the quality ... but the content is surely going downhill.

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A message from Manny: Adios, Dear DUers [View all] marym625 Dec 2015 OP

I will really miss you, Manny. immoderate Dec 2015 #1

No need to miss him, thankfully, he is going to be posting his wonderful posts on the new sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #40

Where is the new site? n/t Tess49 Dec 2015 #45

http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php emsimon33 Dec 2015 #88

thanks-- I'll look into it Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #101

Thanks for the info! Tess49 Dec 2015 #106

thanks for sharing !! belty Dec 2015 #165

Good to know, he is an inspiration yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #178

What new site is that? man4allcats Dec 2015 #49

It is here emsimon33 Dec 2015 #90

Thank you for the link. earthside Dec 2015 #108

Thanks!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #122

Thanks! dflprincess Dec 2015 #160

Can you give a link? baran Dec 2015 #53

Here it is emsimon33 Dec 2015 #89

Like me? MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #57

Already enrolled emsimon33 Dec 2015 #86

Great, me too! Took off like a rocket actually, shows how much of a need there is sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #121

Thanks so much! pacalo Dec 2015 #137

Hi pacalo! sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #147

You can love or hate Manny, but this thread deserves your rec. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #75

Well said! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #145

Thank you, marym625 merrily Dec 2015 #2

My absolute pleasure! marym625 Dec 2015 #3

I miss Manny. 840high Dec 2015 #4

Poor Manny. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #5

Thank you... Thespian2 Dec 2015 #6

Thank you Mary! Manny is a favorite and I miss him. haikugal Dec 2015 #7

Manny... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #8

K&R TSIAS Dec 2015 #9

Manny is who I would be if I were smarter and had the guts tularetom Dec 2015 #10

And the jury is in.... Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #11

This is pretty sick. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #19

No I think they are in control zeemike Dec 2015 #32

Backfiring On Them billhicks76 Dec 2015 #35

"...Jury selection is still random..." greiner3 Dec 2015 #71

That is always a possibility. zeemike Dec 2015 #105

I don't think so. bvar22 Dec 2015 #116

An old Greek saying... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #141

Juror #3 TSIAS Dec 2015 #20

....x10+ 840high Dec 2015 #42

Huge +1! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #54

Agreed ashling Dec 2015 #63

Yep... LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #81

What you said ybbor Dec 2015 #93

+ another Scuba Dec 2015 #96

Well said, Mbrow Dec 2015 #98

I'm no longer capable of being surprised by crap like this. n/t bvf Dec 2015 #25

Unfucking believable! liberalnarb Dec 2015 #48

"Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system..." MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #59

Juror number 5 had it right. senz Dec 2015 #70

May Humanity bless you! wouldsman Dec 2015 #12

You were always one of my favs.. annabanana Dec 2015 #13

I miss you all ready. snappyturtle Dec 2015 #14

Thank You Manny - You Will Be Missed cantbeserious Dec 2015 #15

I will miss him. He was brave, funny and on the mark. Love ya, roguevalley Dec 2015 #16

Miss you Manny. jalan48 Dec 2015 #17

........ daleanime Dec 2015 #18

Gonna miss seeing you! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2015 #21

What got Mannie banned? Can you point to it? JackRiddler Dec 2015 #22

He said he would not vote for Hillary Clinton Dragonfli Dec 2015 #27

Should Republicans Be Forced To Vote For Trump? billhicks76 Dec 2015 #36

It is decidedly unhealthy. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #55

What If We Discovered A Criminal Betrayal By Our Candidate? billhicks76 Dec 2015 #60

Correct you are. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #65

Apparently around here, yes, you should be forced. 7962 Dec 2015 #99

I think me too, I don't remember. JackRiddler Dec 2015 #110

Yeah I Had That Happen Too billhicks76 Dec 2015 #161

"Is this just a way to stifle debate? " arcane1 Dec 2015 #152

I've had manny blocked foe 3 years Champion Jack Dec 2015 #23

This goodbye is not for you, then. No need to respond. JimDandy Dec 2015 #39

Thank you Mary for posting this! SoapBox Dec 2015 #24

We'll all cross paths again and I hope to see you Manny. Phlem Dec 2015 #26

Can you imagine it Plem - truedelphi Dec 2015 #33

I can, I can see it and I know it's going to happen. Phlem Dec 2015 #38

Thank you. Paka Dec 2015 #28

KnR SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #29

Not going to be the same without you Manny Nite Owl Dec 2015 #30

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #31

Thank you for the nice message to us DU-ers Manny. Marie Marie Dec 2015 #34

Wow, I am speechless. Manny's intelligence, humor, passion, honesty, Vattel Dec 2015 #37

Will miss you Manny Bubzer Dec 2015 #41

Very nice, Manny. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #43

You rock, Manny MissDeeds Dec 2015 #44

I can't believe he is gone. What kind of place has this become? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #46

Haven't you heard? SwankyXomb Dec 2015 #73

"Third Way Underground" LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #82

Love you, Manny. May the FORCE be with you and w ith Bernir. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #47

Manny's at the new site navarth Dec 2015 #50

Which site? mahina Dec 2015 #92

he's here: navarth Dec 2015 #155

Thanks. mahina Dec 2015 #162

Yes... the tweaking of the STTs. SMC22307 Dec 2015 #130

I will truly miss that. He's quite good. And he does it without being nasty. navarth Dec 2015 #156

Do I really need to say it? K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #51

I respect you Manny. mithnanthy Dec 2015 #52

Indeed! Manny walks the talk on democratic values. avaistheone1 Dec 2015 #84

There's no-one like you Manny. elias49 Dec 2015 #56

I will miss Manny dflprincess Dec 2015 #58

Inertia is a bitch...without an external force, this place is sliding into irrelevancy. Moostache Dec 2015 #61

Manny thanks, Monsieur Goldstein. 1000words Dec 2015 #62

Wow. hay rick Dec 2015 #64

The view has to be greener on the other side aspirant Dec 2015 #66

Good duers are being exhiled liberalnarb Dec 2015 #67

Many good DUers have been exiled over the years, Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2016 #171

How did that work? liberalnarb Jan 2016 #172

She overthought the question Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2016 #173

They ban people too easily. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #174

A gracious message from a good man. senz Dec 2015 #68

I know we'll meet again. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #69

We know where to meet Manny again! On the new forum! sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #77

K&R Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #72

Thanks for all the good times Manny bbgrunt Dec 2015 #74

Thank you Mary Kalidurga Dec 2015 #76

Nicely done! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #78

Clever! Manny-worthy! Proserpina Dec 2015 #79

What??? I don't get it. Can you spell it out more clearly? rhett o rick Dec 2015 #114

We Want Manny.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #80

Manny, I think this would be a good place to get your message out about walking the talk on avaistheone1 Dec 2015 #83

Thanks! LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #118

I have but only one rec to give, but many many thanks. nilram Dec 2015 #85

Great loss for DU but I shall see you on "the other side" emsimon33 Dec 2015 #87

They couldn't hurt Bernie, so they went for Manny. So sad. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #91

I will truly miss you Manny! ybbor Dec 2015 #94

Manny... your wit, insight and humour will be truly missed Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #95

Classy, very classy. No surprise there. Scuba Dec 2015 #97

Why tell any candidate you will vote for them regardless of their rhetoric or actions? canoeist52 Dec 2015 #100

K&R Thanks for always speaking truth to power MG. nt raouldukelives Dec 2015 #102

I will miss Manny's energy here MadLinguist Dec 2015 #103

Thank you Manny. I've always looked forward to your posts. williesgirl Dec 2015 #104

Just Want To Say I've Always Been A Manny Supporter... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #107

I've been here since 2003. earthside Dec 2015 #109

"There is 'fear' here and that is pretty weird and pretty sad." malokvale77 Dec 2015 #125

Everything You Just Posted Is Something I Completely ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #126

Thoughtful post. earthside Dec 2015 #127

Thank You, But Not Too Much Time... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #153

Thanks for steering me to JackpineRadicals panader0 Dec 2015 #111

Thank you for fighting the good fight with humor and integrity! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #112

See you at jackpineradicals.org FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #113

^this^ Zorra Dec 2015 #117

Yes. Thank you! merrily Jan 2016 #170

Thanks Manny for the classy goodbye and thanks mary for posting it. I will miss Manny's ornery but rhett o rick Dec 2015 #115

What a boring place this site will turn into without dissenting voices senseandsensibility Dec 2015 #119

Jeez, Manny, and you weren't even a Gunhumper��. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #120

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #123

Manny, have seen your dialogs so will check the new site out. Thanks. EV_Ares Dec 2015 #124

Manny's ban, in a nut shell, displays the enormous change DU has gone through since if first started Javaman Dec 2015 #128

Bingo! rhett o rick Dec 2015 #135

Love you too, Manny! See you in a better place! ;) snot Dec 2015 #129

k&r shanti Dec 2015 #131

Proud to be rec 414, Good lick, Manny. lob1 Dec 2015 #132

the Manny haters can F*** THEMSELVES Skittles Dec 2015 #133

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #139

delicate little flowers, aren't they? Skittles Dec 2015 #143

And cowardly liars. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #144

I have the utmost respect for the site owners and their decisions Skittles Dec 2015 #148

Yes indeed! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #149

This alerter should be alerted on TSIAS Dec 2015 #158

I've noticed a lot of alerts like that lately, and not just in this group. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #159

Juror #7, I think I love you... truebrit71 Dec 2015 #166

I hope that he will return Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #134

Luv ya Manny! Miss you already! Take care. Owl Dec 2015 #136

I can't help but wonder - after 12 years of being a member here . . . Richard D Dec 2015 #138

As evidenced further by the alert posted in #139. pacalo Dec 2015 #140

Manny... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #142

For Manny G: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #146

.. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #150

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #151

This place needs you more than it needs the hobgoblin of rules leveymg Dec 2015 #154

Dare Manny! Paulie Dec 2015 #157

I prefer to think of it as a floating party Prism Dec 2015 #163

Arrrrrrrrgh HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #164

Petition to get Obama to Endorse Bernie Sanders Anti Dec 2015 #167

Manny, Manny, dear dear Manny... countryjake Dec 2015 #168

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No words, other than to say this site has become unworthy of Manny's wit, intelligence and passion! markpkessinger Feb 2016 #175

Manny got banned? Geez, this place is turning into a joke. WTF! BillZBubb Feb 2016 #176

Hey Manny...you probably deserved it! You wouldn't take any shit and they finally got you... islandmkl Feb 2016 #177

If and when you read this madokie Feb 2016 #179

I'm with manny Buddyblazon Feb 2016 #180

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