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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
5. I'm going to take a leap here and say what I think Bernie is thinking.
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:33 PM
May 2015

And I don't mean to minimize what I also feel is seriously important.

I think Bernie's visions for a more civil society also affect other areas without actually addressing them. After all, it's pretty hard to change someone's mind by trying to change it. But to give people rights that make their lives better through more knowledge, dignity, and health will no doubt lend to a more accepting society. I say this because what we have seen, since forever, is a kind of bad competition. One person gets and another goes without.

Maybe my post is inappropriate in that the problems we see now require acute remedies. Cops getting away with slamming a pregnant African american woman to the ground under any circumstances is horrendous, but for no reason, is just criminal.

How else do we explain our behavior compared to that in the friendlier European countries? A lot of black musicians moved to Europe in previous decades. I know Billy Cobham did, along with numerous jazz players. I think the kind receptions they received there gave them a sense of home they didn't get here. I'm speculating on a lot of this, but just think this is so important that we have to include all thoughts.

Gil Scott Heron's tune Whitey On The Moon spoke volumes to me. It almost doesn't matter whether it's chicken or egg if the situation exists. I mean that even if we can't change the racist's mind, changing those who endure racism to have better lives will help part of the equation.

I think ignorance is at the heart of racism. I'll admit that after Vietnam my town was flooded with immigrants. I was finding myself harboring racist thoughts. I ended up with a job where I was working exclusively with Vietnamese. I got to hear the stories of death, and survival, and learned that there was something inside of each one of these people that had a story to tell. A story of vulnerability and fragility. And everyone has that story, no matter how tough they seem. We're really all in this together.

Better schools; better job opportunities; better health care. That's how this gets turned around. Just my rambling thoughts.

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I want him to continue to talk about race. And he will. arcane1 May 2015 #1
I completely agree marym625 May 2015 #2
I think we have to be careful to not think he had to say EVERYTHING in his speech the other day... cascadiance May 2015 #3
I agree marym625 May 2015 #6
Oh, I believe you felt that way too... cascadiance May 2015 #8
Well said BrotherIvan May 2015 #7
I have no doubt that he will. I imagine him to be as plain spoken about social issues Hiraeth May 2015 #4
I'm going to take a leap here and say what I think Bernie is thinking. Gregorian May 2015 #5
I had a good talk with a Vietnamese speaker who spoke with Daniel Elsberg here in Portland... cascadiance May 2015 #9
This is my take on it as well. I don't think Bernie realizes that he is NOT addressing social issues Hiraeth May 2015 #10
Now they are arguing about optics BrotherIvan May 2015 #12
^^thank you, could not have stated it better^^ nt N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #78
I could not agree more. He spoke directly to police brutality, and at some length with Katie Couric libdem4life Jun 2015 #90
Maybe it's time aspirant May 2015 #11
I'm not sure how it will go in terms of endorsements BrotherIvan May 2015 #13
That notion is exactly the implication aspirant May 2015 #17
I'm hoping that Barbara Lee is his running mate! BrotherIvan May 2015 #18
It's NOW aspirant May 2015 #22
I agree - right now he is just that crazy old socialist TBF May 2015 #30
That is a lovely thought. Barbara Lee would be a fantastic choice. Luminous Animal May 2015 #34
Right? BrotherIvan May 2015 #36
Ah! I was at that event at the library! Luminous Animal May 2015 #38
How cool is that BrotherIvan May 2015 #43
Such endorsements usually wait for the whole thing to get underway Scootaloo May 2015 #51
I am cognizant that Hillary is the party's choice, and that bucking the party is going to have merrily May 2015 #77
Bernie can't be all to everyone aspirant May 2015 #14
Nobody on this thread believes that. smokey nj May 2015 #15
I hope not, aspirant May 2015 #20
I made this thread so people could really discuss the issue BrotherIvan May 2015 #16
A quick question aspirant May 2015 #19
BrotherIvan has been one of Bernie's most staunch supporters and defenders on DU. smokey nj May 2015 #21
Thanks BrotherIvan May 2015 #24
That post was disgusting, absolutely disgusting and the people who are defending it should hang smokey nj May 2015 #25
Well, thankfully there were only 20 people who did BrotherIvan May 2015 #26
Smokey; aspirant May 2015 #29
BrotherIvan is progressive - TBF May 2015 #32
I've never called myself either, maybe I have called myself a liberal BrotherIvan May 2015 #37
The label doesn't matter - it is the position people take on issues TBF May 2015 #39
You have a good memory! BrotherIvan May 2015 #42
I think I might have confused you BrotherIvan May 2015 #23
BrotherIvan Mbrow May 2015 #27
Great post BrotherIvan May 2015 #40
I agree. These issues are very important to me too. bravenak May 2015 #28
You are rocking it, but now I'm gonna bore you back BrotherIvan May 2015 #35
Thank you. bravenak May 2015 #46
Here's something on Bernie's stance on the war on drugs: smokey nj May 2015 #47
That is a very true point. bravenak May 2015 #48
Damn straight! smokey nj May 2015 #49
That was a big blow to me. bravenak May 2015 #50
It is a very important issue BrotherIvan May 2015 #53
It says for violent offenders. bravenak May 2015 #56
I know a 20yr old who was locked up and his third strike was riding a skateboard high BrotherIvan May 2015 #57
I agree. bravenak May 2015 #58
Exactly BrotherIvan May 2015 #60
Meanwhile Affluenza kid kills four people snd doesn't smokey nj May 2015 #63
That's heartbreaking. smokey nj May 2015 #55
I think so too. bravenak May 2015 #59
It's a disgrace and it's why I throw up in my mouth smokey nj May 2015 #61
Lol! Me too. bravenak May 2015 #62
Just saw this and thought of you immediately! smokey nj May 2015 #86
Awesome, thank you. bravenak May 2015 #87
Punishment is counterproductive. Everyone has potential Gregorian May 2015 #88
Bernie does need to add to his agenda Dems to Win May 2015 #31
I hope they will do so - TBF May 2015 #33
Exactly! BrotherIvan May 2015 #41
While I may agree with you, TM99 May 2015 #44
I very much agree with you BrotherIvan May 2015 #72
Yes, I agree, it is the same small group of individuals. TM99 May 2015 #75
Well I guess for people who only see an issue as a checkmark BrotherIvan May 2015 #81
Listen to the speech again RoccoR5955 May 2015 #45
Bernie has been addressing those issues with passion all of his adult life and he will totodeinhere May 2015 #52
Just trying to start a real discussion BrotherIvan May 2015 #54
Bjorn Against posted a great thread in GD on this. smokey nj May 2015 #64
I'll go check it out BrotherIvan May 2015 #65
Think it must be this one: Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #67
Excellent BrotherIvan May 2015 #69
He attended the march in Selma, what more could anyone ask for?? Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #70
And another thing... LOL. Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #71
I hope the excitement and activism keep going and build and build BrotherIvan May 2015 #74
Yeah me too. I also think Wall Street crime targets black people. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #66
Agreed BrotherIvan May 2015 #68
Yes he's the only one running with a serious vision about ending poverty for good. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #73
Which candidate for POTUS do you think has been better on race than Bernie? merrily May 2015 #76
He spoke about police brutality last night and what he'd like to do about it. historylovr May 2015 #79
Would you have a link to video or a story? BrotherIvan May 2015 #80
Here's a link to a story about the event. historylovr May 2015 #82
You were at the event? BrotherIvan May 2015 #83
Yes. historylovr May 2015 #84
You should make that an OP in the group BrotherIvan May 2015 #85
Thank you, BrotherIvan. historylovr May 2015 #89
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