Bernie Sanders

passiveporcupine

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66. I Understand why this is upsetting for you,

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #61)

Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:03 PM

Jan 2016

but actually they are not denying the people left out of the ACA because they will still provide services for those people with no insurance, as they always have. The may be slowing down the process of us hopefully changing to a universal system. I agree.

This is not like choosing not to shop at Michael's because of their religious nuttery. You won't hurt their customers much if they go out of business because of your protest. They will find another craft store. But if you put PP out of business because you withdraw your donations because of an ideological difference, you are hurting every one of the needy young men and women who would have been able to get help from them because of your donations. They don't have insurance and they have no other "store" to shop at to get those services.

Think about that. PLEASE!

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Massive Backlash to the Planned Parenthood Endorsement of HC [View all] SandersDem Jan 2016 OP

I will say again - very stupid move SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #1

Very sad. They've served so well for so long. Bubzer Jan 2016 #98

Looking for an email addy for them. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #137

They alienated a large group of donors and potential donors for nothing. Stupid. Shrike47 Jan 2016 #2

If Hillary's primary opponent was anti-PP, it would be ok dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #3

Thats what I said! liberalnarb Jan 2016 #68

Cool, went over there and rec'd it for ya. dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #86

obviously hrc is going for quantity but that isn't votes, its framing. she will lose votes this way roguevalley Jan 2016 #95

It is her trend line artislife Jan 2016 #124

exactly. delrem Jan 2016 #101

Oh dear... nt retrowire Jan 2016 #4

wanna bet they didn't ask any members, as usual? MisterP Jan 2016 #5

"Clinton will retaliate"--sure says a lot about Clinton and why I am for Bernie emsimon33 Jan 2016 #7

Her campaign is all about capturing the gatekeepers and power brokers, not the hearts and minds GoneFishin Jan 2016 #93

+100 peace13 Jan 2016 #102

Yep. It's an unfortunate move for PP. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #111

But they could have simply stayed neutral until the GE. This was an unforced error. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #103

Exactly n/t MissDeeds Jan 2016 #113

Then PP should have skipped the endorsement--like they have EVERY OTHER TIME Proserpina Jan 2016 #114

It was a terrible move as they were already under attack from the right emsimon33 Jan 2016 #6

Single payer may mean no need for PP Bubzer Jan 2016 #99

So, basically fuck all young women with no means to pay for contraception. lark Jan 2016 #122

Then PP shouldn't have endorsed in a primary. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #135

Exactly!! smokey nj Jan 2016 #145

If you give half a damn about women's health care and women's issues, Skidmore Jan 2016 #8

however... SandersDem Jan 2016 #10

buthow long would it take to implement universal covrage? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #20

"you are cutting donations for immediate needs" - not quite. Bubzer Jan 2016 #100

That doesn't sound like a lot considering how many people they serve passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #128

It may not sound like a lot of money, but it is. Especially for a non profit serving pulic interest. Bubzer Jan 2016 #149

You really should quote the part of your post that is directly from the link passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #150

You can pull up the 2014 annual report to get the break out of their expenditures. Bubzer Jan 2016 #152

Sorry, but you are going to have to give me something better passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #153

Didn't you see the table of contents is on page 3? Bubzer Jan 2016 #155

Another reason they should stay kacekwl Jan 2016 #127

So should everyone stay neutral? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #129

Don't you get that they've NEVER endorsed in a primary before? smokey nj Jan 2016 #146

I would rather they keep the floriduck Jan 2016 #38

This is their own Komen moment. hay rick Jan 2016 #74

well said. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #115

I have to agree unapatriciated Jan 2016 #81

"they have not done this in previous elections" Enthusiast Jan 2016 #104

Very disappointing that PP had to get political. I bet HRC campaign put the pressure rhett o rick Jan 2016 #130

they should stay out of politics period nt grasswire Jan 2016 #9

Dont' be such an idealogue that you let your actions hurt people in need now passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #21

It's Planned Parenthood who has acted irresponsibilty, not the people Fawke Em Jan 2016 #138

and think their money might go towards helping her beat their preferred candidates passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #139

Donated $300 to PP, $750 to Bernie central scrutinizer Jan 2016 #11

this is the best response right here, central has it right :) SandersDem Jan 2016 #16

Excellent. Duppers Jan 2016 #25

+1. bvf Jan 2016 #29

^^^THIS^^^ But I am kind of thrilled about this. If PP jwirr Jan 2016 #57

I'll forgive Planned Parenthood anything Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #12

The organization but not the leadership. They showed bad judgement. I bet they were rhett o rick Jan 2016 #131

It was one of the dumbest moves PP could make when all three Democratic Candidates are in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #13

yep 840high Jan 2016 #26

"Short-sighted" jomin41 Jan 2016 #117

... in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #119

Agreed. zentrum Jan 2016 #14

^^ This^^ Marie Marie Jan 2016 #87

I'm redirecting my financial support directly to candidates who support Planned Parenthood. We need Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #15

'because universal healthcare (which he is promoting) would remove the need for PP�s services' TheProgressive Jan 2016 #17

Good point. Thanks. Mc Mike Jan 2016 #107

Huge mistake on their part....Cecile Richards is definitely no Ann Richards andrewv1 Jan 2016 #18

I was thinking, why doesn't PP also endorse Bernie and Martin, but... Akamai Jan 2016 #142

I have a strong desire to stop my donations but probably will not. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #19

Thank you passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #23

Choosing a political action instead of the needs of real people...like PP just did? jeff47 Jan 2016 #27

My pleasure BlueJazz Jan 2016 #45

Planned Parenthood was the one that choose political over needs davidpdx Jan 2016 #90

Dumb move! nt Duval Jan 2016 #22

I cancelled my monthly donation too. Why would they stick their nose williesgirl Jan 2016 #24

Yep... Planned Parenthood bought and paid for by Clinton now. JimDandy Jan 2016 #35

You're going to need 70 Democratic Senators and about 300 big L Liberals Arkana Jan 2016 #65

half the country that is eligible to vote does not vote questionseverything Jan 2016 #73

It's a high goal, but worth fighting for considering the alternative. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133

Stunningly stupid move on the part of PP. Right up there with DWS dumping on younger women. Ford_Prefect Jan 2016 #28

+100000 azmom Jan 2016 #83

the daughter of PP�s president, Lily Adams is Hillary Clinton�s Iowa communications director. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #30

Wow. SheilaT Jan 2016 #31

It's not just her daughter EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #32

Universal Health Care, or PP Jobs? marksda Jan 2016 #33

A mistake as big as ... Susan Komen? ... Trajan Jan 2016 #34

That was my first thought as well.... peacebird Jan 2016 #110

Just remember passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #36

Planned Parenthood hurt the people who need their services. smokey nj Jan 2016 #37

Sorry, you cannot absolve your responsibility for your actions that way passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #39

You don't get to tell people what to do with their money. smokey nj Jan 2016 #42

Freedom of speech means I can tell you what I think of the way you spend your money. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #51

I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours and I think you are wrong. smokey nj Jan 2016 #54

I'd rather be blamed for castigating people that for denying the needy the help they seek. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #55

I haven't denied anybody anything. smokey nj Jan 2016 #58

If you are not withholding funds from PP because of them backing Clinton passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #59

I won't donate until they get out of politics. I didn't hear the sniffles about komen. roguevalley Jan 2016 #97

Really? Comparing Komen to PP? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #136

when they do quid pro quo and step into politics without a care what it means to their roguevalley Jan 2016 #147

when pp endorsed hc they are denying the 30 million of us left out of the aca, our care questionseverything Jan 2016 #61

I Understand why this is upsetting for you, passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #66

older people have to pay 3 times as much to be insured under the aca questionseverything Jan 2016 #71

I agree there are some serious problems with the ACA passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #76

I am not castigating anyone for expressing their opinion passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #125

That's why I send my money to http://www.fundabortionnow.org/ eggplant Jan 2016 #78

Planned Parenthood isn't the only game in town. smokey nj Jan 2016 #79

Thanks for that link. progressoid Jan 2016 #96

A mistake, in my opinion mountain grammy Jan 2016 #40

Yikes... WillyT Jan 2016 #41

As pissed as I am about this unfortunate fredamae Jan 2016 #43

I went directly to their website and unsubscribed from their action list after the Duckfan Jan 2016 #44

I'm not familiar with this particular incident Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #46

unsurprising but an interesting angle stupidicus Jan 2016 #47

Looking for an alternate place to send your PP money? http://www.fundabortionnow.org/ eggplant Jan 2016 #48

Thank you for this link. smokey nj Jan 2016 #49

I like NNAF because they point you to funds local to *you* that you may never have heard of. eggplant Jan 2016 #50

This is great. smokey nj Jan 2016 #52

By endorsing they made themselves a political organization. Autumn Jan 2016 #53

Indeed. They unnecessarily hurt the people who need them. smokey nj Jan 2016 #56

They have always stood above the fray and Democrats have always stood by them. Autumn Jan 2016 #60

That is the point those in this thread are missing davidpdx Jan 2016 #91

They should have stayed out of it marlakay Jan 2016 #62

I will still donate to them, but am disappointed AllyCat Jan 2016 #63

The connections go very deep. Clinton Global Initiative works closely with them. madfloridian Jan 2016 #64

I've supporterd them for years Plucketeer Jan 2016 #67

This would have made sense AFTER the primary... truebrit71 Jan 2016 #69

Which begs the question of why it was done. winter is coming Jan 2016 #77

MASSIVE FAIL on PP's part. They will pay for it.... Indepatriot Jan 2016 #70

I knew this would happen. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #72

I cancelled my monthly donation because PP didn't care enough to even poll us. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #75

I will always support PP and wish they had stayed out of it. mahina Jan 2016 #80

bakatadi's too! Akamai Jan 2016 #140

:) mahina Jan 2016 #144

I think Hillary is desperate. Bernblu Jan 2016 #82

It could be with her fall in the polls and PP's being wacked at by the right-wingers davidpdx Jan 2016 #92

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #84

Buh-bye! smokey nj Jan 2016 #85

Endorsing any candidate was a poor political decision. blackspade Jan 2016 #88

Yup! My view too. Like asking your child (as I used to do humorously), "Who do you love more? Me or Akamai Jan 2016 #141

Excellent Post... Thespian2 Jan 2016 #89

Someone posted this today... 840high Jan 2016 #94

What a bone headed move! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #105

It was a really dumb move. mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #106

I think most of the angst from Hillary supporters over any backlash is because they (astoundingly) djean111 Jan 2016 #108

If Warren endorsed Hillary tomorrow, I'd think she'd lost her mind. senz Jan 2016 #156

Interesting. They shot themselves in the foot with this one. peacebird Jan 2016 #109

Deleting comment... dorkzilla Jan 2016 #112

Reminds me when AARP got cozy with GW Bush and the Repubs. AARP is still paying for that. /nt NCjack Jan 2016 #116

I disagree with their endorsement, especially since they've never done this before, CrispyQ Jan 2016 #118

I'll side with the nurses for Bernie Geronimoe Jan 2016 #120

Seriously, you quote a group called "Rock the Sluts' Vote"? lark Jan 2016 #121

Why would I want my donations to possibly go to a candidate I don't support? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #143

PP just lost me weknowvino2 Jan 2016 #123

Sounds like someone has been promised a job in a Clinton administration fbc Jan 2016 #126

This is exactly the kind of bullcrap we are fighting. The PP leadership needs to be fired. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #134

They seem to corrupt every single thing they touch. senz Jan 2016 #157

Looks like they didn't learn about backlashes after Susan G. Koman Fawke Em Jan 2016 #132

Extraordinary ratfuck. joshcryer Jan 2016 #148

No, the ratfuck is that the Third Way types think the left can be manipulated into supporting djean111 Jan 2016 #158

What a bonehead move Android3.14 Jan 2016 #151

Kick. Autumn Jan 2016 #154