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BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
35. You are rocking it, but now I'm gonna bore you back
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:44 PM
May 2015

I totally agree, I want to see more and I hope Rev Al will have him on his show too to talk about these issues.

I have been trying to talk to some posters about the fact that access to quality education + higher education is so important to people of color and poor communities. I taught in a high school for last chance students in what we all affectionately termed "the ghetto." This was a city that in the 90s had the highest murder rate in the country and a population of about 250,000. I had bullet holes in the windows of my classroom. I had bangers and kids fresh out of juvie. I had students with kids, some with more than one. I had students that lived in a one bedroom apartment with over ten people, lots of that situation. (And my students were hanging with Snoop at the Starbucks which was hilarious) There were Latinos, African Americans, whites, Vietnamese, Korean, and Filipino all in one school.

My students didn't have a lot of options. Most of them were not going to college. They were either going to be working some minimum wage job or two or three for the rest of their lives if they went the straight route. The only recruiters who came to my school were the military and the cops. They know to feed on poor kids. Three students who had the grades to go to college but not the money, signed up for the military because they thought that was their only option. One we were able to talk out of it. That's when I realized that we do have a program for tax subsidized education and jobs, but the black and brown kids have to put their lives on the line to get it.

And my life, growing up just the next town over, was so different. I never questioned that I would go to college, that that was my path. I didn't have to worry about blocks being taken over by drug dealers and drive bys. And it was because my parents were educated where not a single student in my class had a parent that got more than a high school diploma and a majority of the parents never even went to high school. Parents' educational level is the strongest indicator for a child. These students didn't have any damn bootstraps.

So I want that for them. I want them to be able to have the choice if they want to make a better life and get a job that they can provide for themselves and their families. Not two or three jobs, one well-paying job. I want them not to have to choose between taking the baby to the doctor and paying rent. I don't want them to be so illiterate and ignorant that employers and cops take every advantage of them, which they do. That's part of social justice to me.

How about generational poverty? Isn't that just keeping people in the worst possible place? This graph should alarm just about anyone who cares about the black community. But sadly, not on DU as I have shared it a few time. The median household worth for black families is $11,000 ???? And we're not supposed to talk about economics???



On the drug war, Sanders is for decriminalization and medical marijuana. I looked up his current position and found this from his recent reddit AMA

[–]
In 2014 you expressed that the decriminalisation of recreational marijuana use is “not a major issue”, but also added that you would “look into it”.
The freedom to alter ones own state of consciousness, whilst doing no harm to others, is something that many people deem to be a basic human right. The prison-industrial complex, and pharmaceutical monopolies that have been erected around prohibition of consciousness altering, pain relieving, but otherwise benign drugs seems to be the epitome of what you stand against.
I’d imagine that you have refrained from speaking on this issue for fear of it being used as ammunition by your "opponents”, but could you update us on your position regarding the war on drugs?
Thanks!

[–]bernie-sanders[S]
Let me just say this -- the state of Vermont voted to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana and I support that. I have supported the use of medical marijuana. And when I was mayor of Burlington, in a city with a large population, I can tell you very few people were arrested for smoking marijuana. Our police had more important things to do.
Colorado has led the effort toward legalizing marijuana and I'm going to watch very closely to see the pluses and minuses of what they have done. I will have more to say about this issue within the coming months.


So not decisive but there is movement there.

On Welfare Reform, he voted against it in 1996 and from what I can find has voted very consistently to increase all assistance programs at every level. I can't find a good link that is exhaustive but I will keep looking.

On parents of children with a disability, it seems like he leads the charge any time Republicans want to get near it. There are lots of links through the years, this is the latest. So when he is talking about Social Security, he is also talking about disability benefits.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/disability-benefit-cuts-loom

All of your questions are excellent and made me research it for myself. I don't want to make any assumptions about what someone supports. I could have been pretty confident and answered most of your questions with, "Socialism bro" But I don't think that is enough. These are serious and important issues so it's what we need to be discussing. That's how we learn. That's how I do anyway.


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I want him to continue to talk about race. And he will. arcane1 May 2015 #1
I completely agree marym625 May 2015 #2
I think we have to be careful to not think he had to say EVERYTHING in his speech the other day... cascadiance May 2015 #3
I agree marym625 May 2015 #6
Oh, I believe you felt that way too... cascadiance May 2015 #8
Well said BrotherIvan May 2015 #7
I have no doubt that he will. I imagine him to be as plain spoken about social issues Hiraeth May 2015 #4
I'm going to take a leap here and say what I think Bernie is thinking. Gregorian May 2015 #5
I had a good talk with a Vietnamese speaker who spoke with Daniel Elsberg here in Portland... cascadiance May 2015 #9
This is my take on it as well. I don't think Bernie realizes that he is NOT addressing social issues Hiraeth May 2015 #10
Now they are arguing about optics BrotherIvan May 2015 #12
^^thank you, could not have stated it better^^ nt N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #78
I could not agree more. He spoke directly to police brutality, and at some length with Katie Couric libdem4life Jun 2015 #90
Maybe it's time aspirant May 2015 #11
I'm not sure how it will go in terms of endorsements BrotherIvan May 2015 #13
That notion is exactly the implication aspirant May 2015 #17
I'm hoping that Barbara Lee is his running mate! BrotherIvan May 2015 #18
It's NOW aspirant May 2015 #22
I agree - right now he is just that crazy old socialist TBF May 2015 #30
That is a lovely thought. Barbara Lee would be a fantastic choice. Luminous Animal May 2015 #34
Right? BrotherIvan May 2015 #36
Ah! I was at that event at the library! Luminous Animal May 2015 #38
How cool is that BrotherIvan May 2015 #43
Such endorsements usually wait for the whole thing to get underway Scootaloo May 2015 #51
I am cognizant that Hillary is the party's choice, and that bucking the party is going to have merrily May 2015 #77
Bernie can't be all to everyone aspirant May 2015 #14
Nobody on this thread believes that. smokey nj May 2015 #15
I hope not, aspirant May 2015 #20
I made this thread so people could really discuss the issue BrotherIvan May 2015 #16
A quick question aspirant May 2015 #19
BrotherIvan has been one of Bernie's most staunch supporters and defenders on DU. smokey nj May 2015 #21
Thanks BrotherIvan May 2015 #24
That post was disgusting, absolutely disgusting and the people who are defending it should hang smokey nj May 2015 #25
Well, thankfully there were only 20 people who did BrotherIvan May 2015 #26
Smokey; aspirant May 2015 #29
BrotherIvan is progressive - TBF May 2015 #32
I've never called myself either, maybe I have called myself a liberal BrotherIvan May 2015 #37
The label doesn't matter - it is the position people take on issues TBF May 2015 #39
You have a good memory! BrotherIvan May 2015 #42
I think I might have confused you BrotherIvan May 2015 #23
BrotherIvan Mbrow May 2015 #27
Great post BrotherIvan May 2015 #40
I agree. These issues are very important to me too. bravenak May 2015 #28
You are rocking it, but now I'm gonna bore you back BrotherIvan May 2015 #35
Thank you. bravenak May 2015 #46
Here's something on Bernie's stance on the war on drugs: smokey nj May 2015 #47
That is a very true point. bravenak May 2015 #48
Damn straight! smokey nj May 2015 #49
That was a big blow to me. bravenak May 2015 #50
It is a very important issue BrotherIvan May 2015 #53
It says for violent offenders. bravenak May 2015 #56
I know a 20yr old who was locked up and his third strike was riding a skateboard high BrotherIvan May 2015 #57
I agree. bravenak May 2015 #58
Exactly BrotherIvan May 2015 #60
Meanwhile Affluenza kid kills four people snd doesn't smokey nj May 2015 #63
That's heartbreaking. smokey nj May 2015 #55
I think so too. bravenak May 2015 #59
It's a disgrace and it's why I throw up in my mouth smokey nj May 2015 #61
Lol! Me too. bravenak May 2015 #62
Just saw this and thought of you immediately! smokey nj May 2015 #86
Awesome, thank you. bravenak May 2015 #87
Punishment is counterproductive. Everyone has potential Gregorian May 2015 #88
Bernie does need to add to his agenda Dems to Win May 2015 #31
I hope they will do so - TBF May 2015 #33
Exactly! BrotherIvan May 2015 #41
While I may agree with you, TM99 May 2015 #44
I very much agree with you BrotherIvan May 2015 #72
Yes, I agree, it is the same small group of individuals. TM99 May 2015 #75
Well I guess for people who only see an issue as a checkmark BrotherIvan May 2015 #81
Listen to the speech again RoccoR5955 May 2015 #45
Bernie has been addressing those issues with passion all of his adult life and he will totodeinhere May 2015 #52
Just trying to start a real discussion BrotherIvan May 2015 #54
Bjorn Against posted a great thread in GD on this. smokey nj May 2015 #64
I'll go check it out BrotherIvan May 2015 #65
Think it must be this one: Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #67
Excellent BrotherIvan May 2015 #69
He attended the march in Selma, what more could anyone ask for?? Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #70
And another thing... LOL. Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #71
I hope the excitement and activism keep going and build and build BrotherIvan May 2015 #74
Yeah me too. I also think Wall Street crime targets black people. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #66
Agreed BrotherIvan May 2015 #68
Yes he's the only one running with a serious vision about ending poverty for good. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #73
Which candidate for POTUS do you think has been better on race than Bernie? merrily May 2015 #76
He spoke about police brutality last night and what he'd like to do about it. historylovr May 2015 #79
Would you have a link to video or a story? BrotherIvan May 2015 #80
Here's a link to a story about the event. historylovr May 2015 #82
You were at the event? BrotherIvan May 2015 #83
Yes. historylovr May 2015 #84
You should make that an OP in the group BrotherIvan May 2015 #85
Thank you, BrotherIvan. historylovr May 2015 #89
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