Bernie Sanders

passiveporcupine

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125. I am not castigating anyone for expressing their opinion

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 02:00 PM

Jan 2016

I'm trying to explain why withholding donations (as much of a feel good as it might be) in this case is not hurting PP, but patients who need services instead.

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Massive Backlash to the Planned Parenthood Endorsement of HC [View all] SandersDem Jan 2016 OP

I will say again - very stupid move SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #1

Very sad. They've served so well for so long. Bubzer Jan 2016 #98

Looking for an email addy for them. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #137

They alienated a large group of donors and potential donors for nothing. Stupid. Shrike47 Jan 2016 #2

If Hillary's primary opponent was anti-PP, it would be ok dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #3

Thats what I said! liberalnarb Jan 2016 #68

Cool, went over there and rec'd it for ya. dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #86

obviously hrc is going for quantity but that isn't votes, its framing. she will lose votes this way roguevalley Jan 2016 #95

It is her trend line artislife Jan 2016 #124

exactly. delrem Jan 2016 #101

Oh dear... nt retrowire Jan 2016 #4

wanna bet they didn't ask any members, as usual? MisterP Jan 2016 #5

"Clinton will retaliate"--sure says a lot about Clinton and why I am for Bernie emsimon33 Jan 2016 #7

Her campaign is all about capturing the gatekeepers and power brokers, not the hearts and minds GoneFishin Jan 2016 #93

+100 peace13 Jan 2016 #102

Yep. It's an unfortunate move for PP. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #111

But they could have simply stayed neutral until the GE. This was an unforced error. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #103

Exactly n/t MissDeeds Jan 2016 #113

Then PP should have skipped the endorsement--like they have EVERY OTHER TIME Proserpina Jan 2016 #114

It was a terrible move as they were already under attack from the right emsimon33 Jan 2016 #6

Single payer may mean no need for PP Bubzer Jan 2016 #99

So, basically fuck all young women with no means to pay for contraception. lark Jan 2016 #122

Then PP shouldn't have endorsed in a primary. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #135

Exactly!! smokey nj Jan 2016 #145

If you give half a damn about women's health care and women's issues, Skidmore Jan 2016 #8

however... SandersDem Jan 2016 #10

buthow long would it take to implement universal covrage? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #20

"you are cutting donations for immediate needs" - not quite. Bubzer Jan 2016 #100

That doesn't sound like a lot considering how many people they serve passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #128

It may not sound like a lot of money, but it is. Especially for a non profit serving pulic interest. Bubzer Jan 2016 #149

You really should quote the part of your post that is directly from the link passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #150

You can pull up the 2014 annual report to get the break out of their expenditures. Bubzer Jan 2016 #152

Sorry, but you are going to have to give me something better passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #153

Didn't you see the table of contents is on page 3? Bubzer Jan 2016 #155

Another reason they should stay kacekwl Jan 2016 #127

So should everyone stay neutral? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #129

Don't you get that they've NEVER endorsed in a primary before? smokey nj Jan 2016 #146

I would rather they keep the floriduck Jan 2016 #38

This is their own Komen moment. hay rick Jan 2016 #74

well said. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #115

I have to agree unapatriciated Jan 2016 #81

"they have not done this in previous elections" Enthusiast Jan 2016 #104

Very disappointing that PP had to get political. I bet HRC campaign put the pressure rhett o rick Jan 2016 #130

they should stay out of politics period nt grasswire Jan 2016 #9

Dont' be such an idealogue that you let your actions hurt people in need now passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #21

It's Planned Parenthood who has acted irresponsibilty, not the people Fawke Em Jan 2016 #138

and think their money might go towards helping her beat their preferred candidates passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #139

Donated $300 to PP, $750 to Bernie central scrutinizer Jan 2016 #11

this is the best response right here, central has it right :) SandersDem Jan 2016 #16

Excellent. Duppers Jan 2016 #25

+1. bvf Jan 2016 #29

^^^THIS^^^ But I am kind of thrilled about this. If PP jwirr Jan 2016 #57

I'll forgive Planned Parenthood anything Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #12

The organization but not the leadership. They showed bad judgement. I bet they were rhett o rick Jan 2016 #131

It was one of the dumbest moves PP could make when all three Democratic Candidates are in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #13

yep 840high Jan 2016 #26

"Short-sighted" jomin41 Jan 2016 #117

... in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #119

Agreed. zentrum Jan 2016 #14

^^ This^^ Marie Marie Jan 2016 #87

I'm redirecting my financial support directly to candidates who support Planned Parenthood. We need Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #15

'because universal healthcare (which he is promoting) would remove the need for PP�s services' TheProgressive Jan 2016 #17

Good point. Thanks. Mc Mike Jan 2016 #107

Huge mistake on their part....Cecile Richards is definitely no Ann Richards andrewv1 Jan 2016 #18

I was thinking, why doesn't PP also endorse Bernie and Martin, but... Akamai Jan 2016 #142

I have a strong desire to stop my donations but probably will not. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #19

Thank you passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #23

Choosing a political action instead of the needs of real people...like PP just did? jeff47 Jan 2016 #27

My pleasure BlueJazz Jan 2016 #45

Planned Parenthood was the one that choose political over needs davidpdx Jan 2016 #90

Dumb move! nt Duval Jan 2016 #22

I cancelled my monthly donation too. Why would they stick their nose williesgirl Jan 2016 #24

Yep... Planned Parenthood bought and paid for by Clinton now. JimDandy Jan 2016 #35

You're going to need 70 Democratic Senators and about 300 big L Liberals Arkana Jan 2016 #65

half the country that is eligible to vote does not vote questionseverything Jan 2016 #73

It's a high goal, but worth fighting for considering the alternative. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133

Stunningly stupid move on the part of PP. Right up there with DWS dumping on younger women. Ford_Prefect Jan 2016 #28

+100000 azmom Jan 2016 #83

the daughter of PP�s president, Lily Adams is Hillary Clinton�s Iowa communications director. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #30

Wow. SheilaT Jan 2016 #31

It's not just her daughter EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #32

Universal Health Care, or PP Jobs? marksda Jan 2016 #33

A mistake as big as ... Susan Komen? ... Trajan Jan 2016 #34

That was my first thought as well.... peacebird Jan 2016 #110

Just remember passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #36

Planned Parenthood hurt the people who need their services. smokey nj Jan 2016 #37

Sorry, you cannot absolve your responsibility for your actions that way passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #39

You don't get to tell people what to do with their money. smokey nj Jan 2016 #42

Freedom of speech means I can tell you what I think of the way you spend your money. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #51

I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours and I think you are wrong. smokey nj Jan 2016 #54

I'd rather be blamed for castigating people that for denying the needy the help they seek. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #55

I haven't denied anybody anything. smokey nj Jan 2016 #58

If you are not withholding funds from PP because of them backing Clinton passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #59

I won't donate until they get out of politics. I didn't hear the sniffles about komen. roguevalley Jan 2016 #97

Really? Comparing Komen to PP? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #136

when they do quid pro quo and step into politics without a care what it means to their roguevalley Jan 2016 #147

when pp endorsed hc they are denying the 30 million of us left out of the aca, our care questionseverything Jan 2016 #61

I Understand why this is upsetting for you, passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #66

older people have to pay 3 times as much to be insured under the aca questionseverything Jan 2016 #71

I agree there are some serious problems with the ACA passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #76

I am not castigating anyone for expressing their opinion passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #125

That's why I send my money to http://www.fundabortionnow.org/ eggplant Jan 2016 #78

Planned Parenthood isn't the only game in town. smokey nj Jan 2016 #79

Thanks for that link. progressoid Jan 2016 #96

A mistake, in my opinion mountain grammy Jan 2016 #40

Yikes... WillyT Jan 2016 #41

As pissed as I am about this unfortunate fredamae Jan 2016 #43

I went directly to their website and unsubscribed from their action list after the Duckfan Jan 2016 #44

I'm not familiar with this particular incident Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #46

unsurprising but an interesting angle stupidicus Jan 2016 #47

Looking for an alternate place to send your PP money? http://www.fundabortionnow.org/ eggplant Jan 2016 #48

Thank you for this link. smokey nj Jan 2016 #49

I like NNAF because they point you to funds local to *you* that you may never have heard of. eggplant Jan 2016 #50

This is great. smokey nj Jan 2016 #52

By endorsing they made themselves a political organization. Autumn Jan 2016 #53

Indeed. They unnecessarily hurt the people who need them. smokey nj Jan 2016 #56

They have always stood above the fray and Democrats have always stood by them. Autumn Jan 2016 #60

That is the point those in this thread are missing davidpdx Jan 2016 #91

They should have stayed out of it marlakay Jan 2016 #62

I will still donate to them, but am disappointed AllyCat Jan 2016 #63

The connections go very deep. Clinton Global Initiative works closely with them. madfloridian Jan 2016 #64

I've supporterd them for years Plucketeer Jan 2016 #67

This would have made sense AFTER the primary... truebrit71 Jan 2016 #69

Which begs the question of why it was done. winter is coming Jan 2016 #77

MASSIVE FAIL on PP's part. They will pay for it.... Indepatriot Jan 2016 #70

I knew this would happen. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #72

I cancelled my monthly donation because PP didn't care enough to even poll us. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #75

I will always support PP and wish they had stayed out of it. mahina Jan 2016 #80

bakatadi's too! Akamai Jan 2016 #140

:) mahina Jan 2016 #144

I think Hillary is desperate. Bernblu Jan 2016 #82

It could be with her fall in the polls and PP's being wacked at by the right-wingers davidpdx Jan 2016 #92

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #84

Buh-bye! smokey nj Jan 2016 #85

Endorsing any candidate was a poor political decision. blackspade Jan 2016 #88

Yup! My view too. Like asking your child (as I used to do humorously), "Who do you love more? Me or Akamai Jan 2016 #141

Excellent Post... Thespian2 Jan 2016 #89

Someone posted this today... 840high Jan 2016 #94

What a bone headed move! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #105

It was a really dumb move. mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #106

I think most of the angst from Hillary supporters over any backlash is because they (astoundingly) djean111 Jan 2016 #108

If Warren endorsed Hillary tomorrow, I'd think she'd lost her mind. senz Jan 2016 #156

Interesting. They shot themselves in the foot with this one. peacebird Jan 2016 #109

Deleting comment... dorkzilla Jan 2016 #112

Reminds me when AARP got cozy with GW Bush and the Repubs. AARP is still paying for that. /nt NCjack Jan 2016 #116

I disagree with their endorsement, especially since they've never done this before, CrispyQ Jan 2016 #118

I'll side with the nurses for Bernie Geronimoe Jan 2016 #120

Seriously, you quote a group called "Rock the Sluts' Vote"? lark Jan 2016 #121

Why would I want my donations to possibly go to a candidate I don't support? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #143

PP just lost me weknowvino2 Jan 2016 #123

Sounds like someone has been promised a job in a Clinton administration fbc Jan 2016 #126

This is exactly the kind of bullcrap we are fighting. The PP leadership needs to be fired. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #134

They seem to corrupt every single thing they touch. senz Jan 2016 #157

Looks like they didn't learn about backlashes after Susan G. Koman Fawke Em Jan 2016 #132

Extraordinary ratfuck. joshcryer Jan 2016 #148

No, the ratfuck is that the Third Way types think the left can be manipulated into supporting djean111 Jan 2016 #158

What a bonehead move Android3.14 Jan 2016 #151

Kick. Autumn Jan 2016 #154