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Bernie Sanders

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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:39 PM Jan 2016

Dr. Maddow is now arguing that Hillary looks to be un-electable. [View all]

Last edited Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

(Cross posting from GDP since I expect more useful comments here.)



Maybe she didn't realize it at the time, but that is what she did. If you watch the first segment of her show last night (1/11/16) she spends a lot of time on JEB's negative net favorable rating. She argues that because his negative numbers keep going up and that his positive numbers keep going down that this is a "fatal disease for politicians". Please note that the numbers she are using are 45% negative and 44% positive among Independents and Republicans nationwide. A total net negative of 1% is enough for her to label this as a "fatal disease".

Link to video: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show (The good stuff starts at about 4:30.)

She goes on to argue that the overall trajectory is stark and therefore it can't be argued that just one "contextual dynamic" is causing this.


Now look at Hillary's chart. These are national numbers so they apply to the General Election, not her winning the nomination.





http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating


If we apply the same standard, which we should, then clearly Hillary is a lost cause. Again, the trajectory is such that it can't be argued that this is simply one contextual dynamic at work. The more she campaigns the worse she does. Her "fatal disease" is killing her candidacy and we should all wake up to that fact.

Or we can apply some double standard to Hillary, although that makes no sense at all.

Or we can argue with Dr. Maddow, which I am not qualified to do.


Your thoughts? I am thinking of sending an email, she says she actually reads them and she will have Sec. Clinton on the show in a couple of days. I would love to see this topic discussed. Given that her campaign has recently released a video showing a bunch of scary scary (R)s and claiming that she is the only one who can beat them (although polls show that Bernie does better against them than she does) it seems reasonable that she address these facts.





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Dr. Maddow ... I love it !!!!! libdem4life Jan 2016 #1
She holds a doctorate in politics from Oxford Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #2
I love her. My whole family watches her. mahina Jan 2016 #3
I tend to call her Rachel too, she is just so lovable. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #13
I forgot that...she's just Rachel...but I like Dr. Maddow better...have to add MSNBC for some. libdem4life Jan 2016 #7
On her old radio show, the lead-n comment to "ask DR Maddow" was eridani Jan 2016 #16
Sorry, did you think I meant Medical Doctor? She has a PhD I thought. libdem4life Jan 2016 #17
Yes--she was joking about that. eridani Jan 2016 #19
I get it, and she's probably right. That would be Awkward. libdem4life Jan 2016 #20
OOPS! I bet she didn't mean to do that! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #4
Funny I listened to that show last night and there was no mention of this interesting tidbit. corkhead Jan 2016 #5
She didn't discuss Hillary's favorable numbers Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #11
Has someone talked to Nate Silver yet? Nyan Jan 2016 #6
Me, too. libdem4life Jan 2016 #9
What happends if it is a Jeb v Hillary race? We all lose Vincardog Jan 2016 #8
Not going to happen...cancel the thought...think positively that we leave the Oligarchy libdem4life Jan 2016 #10
JEB can't run from his name and he can't run on his name. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #12
Heh. LiberalElite Jan 2016 #15
Can't dispute your words. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #14
Favorable rating? aspirant Jan 2016 #18
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