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Showing Original Post only (View all)NYT: Biden's son's dealings with Ukraine and Trump/Gulliani plan to capitalize [View all]
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.htmlsnip
The Trump teams efforts to draw attention to the Bidens work in Ukraine, which is already yielding coverage in conservative media, has been led partly by Rudolph W. Giuliani, who served as a lawyer for Mr. Trump in the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. Giulianis involvement raises questions about whether Mr. Trump is endorsing an effort to push a foreign government to proceed with a case that could hurt a political opponent at home.
Mr. Giuliani has discussed the Burisma investigation, and its intersection with the Bidens, with the ousted Ukrainian prosecutor general and the current prosecutor. He met with the current prosecutor multiple times in New York this year. The current prosecutor general later told associates that, during one of the meetings, Mr. Giuliani called Mr. Trump excitedly to brief him on his findings, according to people familiar with the conversations.
Mr. Giuliani declined to comment on any such phone call with Mr. Trump, but acknowledged that he has discussed the matter with the president on multiple occasions. Mr. Trump, in turn, recently suggested he would like Attorney General William P. Barr to look into the material gathered by the Ukrainian prosecutors echoing repeated calls from Mr. Giuliani for the Justice Department to investigate the Bidens Ukrainian work and other connections between Ukraine and the United States.
Mr. Giuliani said he got involved because he was seeking to counter the Mueller investigation with evidence that Democrats conspired with sympathetic Ukrainians to help initiate what became the special counsels inquiry.
Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trumps personal lawyer, called for investigations into the Bidens connections with Ukraine.CreditJoshua Roberts/Reuters
I can assure you this all started with an allegation about possible Ukrainian involvement in the investigation of Russian meddling, and not Biden, Mr. Giuliani said. The Biden piece is collateral to the bigger story, but must still be investigated, but without the prejudgments that infected the collusion story.
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The younger Mr. Biden said in the statement, At no time have I discussed with my father the companys business, or my board service, including my initial decision to join the board.
Mr. Lutsenko denied any political motivation in reopening the case.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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NYT: Biden's son's dealings with Ukraine and Trump/Gulliani plan to capitalize [View all]
Laura PourMeADrink
May 2019
OP
Unlike Trump, Biden has shown us tax returns. We know Biden isn't dependent on Russia.
SunSeeker
May 2019
#5
Yup, NYT is publishing a false story against a Dem in a pathetic attempt to show "balance."
SunSeeker
May 2019
#65
This is a garbage story that's been floated by Faux News, especially Hannity, and even less credible
highplainsdem
May 2019
#8
There is nothing in the Democratic camp that can compare to 1% of the malfeasance among Republicans
dalton99a
May 2019
#13
Wouldn't surprise me if Giuliani has been offering bribes of some type to try to create problems for
highplainsdem
May 2019
#14
Tad Devine was negotiating to continue work with Manafort in Ukraine as late as 2014, the year
highplainsdem
May 2019
#12
Not to me...see the Russians supported Sanders according to Mueller in 16 somewhat so
Demsrule86
May 2019
#59
You already support Biden so of course it's not a big deal to you. But to those swing voters
progressoid
May 2019
#66
Here's the thing. Joe Biden etc ain't gonna spend the next 2 years lying about it. nt
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#16
No. And this unfair attack on Biden might very well lead President Obama and other world leaders
highplainsdem
May 2019
#17
Trump's personal lawyer is conspiring with a foreign govt for advantage over a rival candidate
muriel_volestrangler
May 2019
#21
Another example of the swamp dweller pointing out an opponent's scuffed shoe
bigbrother05
May 2019
#29
No one cared because everyone knew Shokin was corrupt and Biden and Obama did the right thing.
highplainsdem
May 2019
#36
well yeah, but to pretend it didn't happen is foolish, sweeping it under the rug won't help
Baclava
May 2019
#37
I have no problem with anyone talking about what actually happened. I object to the RW lie
highplainsdem
May 2019
#40
Hoarse Whisperer tweet: Two weeks ago, Ken Vogel of the NYT used emails hacked by Russia in a sleazy
highplainsdem
May 2019
#41
So this is the incredibly scandalous matter that is enveloping Joe Biden? Let's see:
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2019
#42
People are not seeing the damage this will do, along with other things in Biden's record.
marylandblue
May 2019
#43
If course they will go after Pete, but I back him because so far he has good answers
marylandblue
May 2019
#48
Of course you don't, you've already decided that Biden is the only possibility
marylandblue
May 2019
#72
Scathing thread about what's wrong with NYT story by expert on oligarchs/kleptocrats:
highplainsdem
May 2019
#49
Yep. This is so obvious. I feel their desperation as Bernie facades in the primary.
Demsrule86
May 2019
#62
This story is all rightie sources other than the Times bullshit. Joe will be just fine.
Demsrule86
May 2019
#55