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SidDithers

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28. And the Canada Health Act wasn't passed until 1984...

Thu May 2, 2019, 08:00 PM

May 2019

22 years after Tommy Douglas introduced universal care in Saskatchewan.

Canadian medicare wasn't rolled out nationwide. It began in a single province, and took more than two decades to be formalized into a national program.

Which state is going to step up to be the first to implement single-payer, universal care for its citizens? When one state does so, the dominoes may begin to fall.

Sid

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BERNIE SANDERS CALLS OUT ANTI-MEDICARE FOR ALL 'FRONT GROUP' [View all] Uncle Joe May 2019 OP

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He's been in Washington for 28 years, why hasn't he been able to accomplish this for the People? George II May 2019 #33

CHIP and the ACA are accomplishments that actually got affordable health care to people. ehrnst May 2019 #35

who bolded the text? nt msongs May 2019 #2

I did. n/t Uncle Joe May 2019 #3

You know that's not allowed here, bahrbearian May 2019 #15

Sometimes you just have to take it to the limit. Uncle Joe May 2019 #18

Reality is so overrated, isn't it? ehrnst May 2019 #40

Bernie's not afraid of a difficult fight... why so many love the guy!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #4

. George II May 2019 #8

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... NYMinute May 2019 #21

How long has he been fighting this fight again? ehrnst May 2019 #36

But no wins ever. What is it in some that opposition Hortensis May 2019 #108

Well, if these groups are hiding behind fake names Hortensis May 2019 #109

I agree, the debates will be decisive & once they're over, and the primary election is decided... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #110

Yes, eventually we'll get behind our nominee Hortensis May 2019 #114

Recommended. guillaumeb May 2019 #5

I don't like Medicare for all. It would cost me a fortune to cover my family...and we have Demsrule86 May 2019 #6

Our Medicare is 134.00 per month each leftofcool May 2019 #9

I pay $300.00 per month with copays for doctor visits and a $4000.00 out of pocket which Demsrule86 May 2019 #13

And you need a wrap...how can retirees afford this? Demsrule86 May 2019 #16

How many are in your family? n/t Uncle Joe May 2019 #10

Five...two adults and three kids. Demsrule86 May 2019 #11

Too many advocates for Medicare For All aren't aware of how the current Medicare system is.... George II May 2019 #25

I have looked into it as my sis in law is on it...it won't work here and if we try, Demsrule86 May 2019 #29

I used to work for a Medicare subcontractor TheFarseer May 2019 #30

My MIL was paying $500/month mcar May 2019 #38

I like the stats. Thanks for posting. n/t PatrickforO May 2019 #7

Politican Tommy Douglas fought for Medicare in Canada in the 1960s. appalachiablue May 2019 #12

Thanks for the addition appalachiablue. Uncle Joe May 2019 #14

For sure, the system must change, the will of the people will prevail. appalachiablue May 2019 #17

And the Canada Health Act wasn't passed until 1984... SidDithers May 2019 #28

a democratic Gov in Vermont tried it JI7 May 2019 #32

Don't they have a republican governor now? comradebillyboy May 2019 #68

The first state won't be Vermont, they tried then realized that it would cost way too much. George II May 2019 #39

Pretty sure VT and CA tried it. sheshe2 May 2019 #46

lol NYMinute May 2019 #20

I'm sorry but you have my attention now. Uncle Joe May 2019 #22

If you haven't noticed, I am not running NYMinute May 2019 #24

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #66

"Besmirch?" ehrnst May 2019 #80

Big Pharma, insurers, hospitals team up to kill Medicare for All Duppers May 2019 #69

I don't see anything wrong with that NYMinute May 2019 #74

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What's good about the for profit "health" insurance industry? Uncle Joe May 2019 #84

Profit motive is what drives the innovation NYMinute May 2019 #87

I was specifically asking about the for profit "health" insurance industry but if Uncle Joe May 2019 #88

We have a very diverse population NYMinute May 2019 #89

The U.S. in regards to diversity is ranked at 85, the most Uncle Joe May 2019 #90

That wasn't very nice. nt sheshe2 May 2019 #27

Not working...haven't heard any news echo Sanders healthcare proclamation. Demsrule86 May 2019 #34

Sanders is desperate to stay relevant nt NYMinute May 2019 #54

I see that. Demsrule86 May 2019 #55

Yes, that's one way to do it. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #78

Any group that includes ins. cos. does NOT have the people's interest at heart. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #23

I totally agree Honeycombe. Uncle Joe May 2019 #26

Medicare for all will not happen...a hybrid perhaps like Biden suggests. Demsrule86 May 2019 #31

The vast majority of countries with UHC use a hybrid. But apparently that's heresy. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #42

I Know...and it only because Sanders insists on it. You tell supporters the issues with it but Demsrule86 May 2019 #45

It's become dogma - tribal even. ehrnst May 2019 #48

It has become like a religion...based on faith and not fact... Demsrule86 May 2019 #53

No, they don't. They have the single payer govt ins. for all. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #50

Not true. Only a few very few countries have single payer.UK,Canada... Demsrule86 May 2019 #52

I think you are not clear on the terminology. ehrnst May 2019 #57

I'll explain it to you. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #60

I'll explain to you what you said: ehrnst May 2019 #61

I was right: There are more single payer systems in dev. countries than other systems. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #62

No, you are not right on a few things. ehrnst May 2019 #64

Medicare Advantage plans are not Gov.Medicare. They are private health insurance supplemental plans. YOHABLO May 2019 #101

Interesting that those who espouse "Medicare for All" tout all the countries that.... George II May 2019 #56

Since you agree. sheshe2 May 2019 #51

Insurance corporations. Uncle Joe May 2019 #58

Thanks. nt sheshe2 May 2019 #77

My hubs had surgery a couple of weeks ago...spinal . He was sent home early...too Demsrule86 May 2019 #37

That sounds completely horrible Dems ... ucrdem May 2019 #111

He is doing much better. He is only in his early 50's. Demsrule86 May 2019 #121

What are "ins. cos.?" ehrnst May 2019 #41

Geeze. sheshe2 May 2019 #49

Any proposal that does NOT include insurance companies will cost much, much more. George II May 2019 #43

Oh - you mean insurance companies. Like the ones in Medicare advantage? ehrnst May 2019 #47

Always something nefarious blocking the perfect solution, isn't there? ehrnst May 2019 #44

What's good about the for profit "health" insurance industry? Uncle Joe May 2019 #59

I was pointing out that there always seems to be a dragon to slay that prevents ehrnst May 2019 #63

You never answered my questions because you couldn't. Uncle Joe May 2019 #65

I don't answer red herring questions or defend strawmen on demand ehrnst May 2019 #67

It wasn't a "demand" it was a request and the for profit "health" insurance industry Uncle Joe May 2019 #70

I call 'em as I see 'em. ehrnst May 2019 #71

Still no answers to my request while ignoring the premise of the OP and Uncle Joe May 2019 #72

Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result... ehrnst May 2019 #73

Which has nothing to do with the OP nor the RELEVANT questions which I posed Uncle Joe May 2019 #76

A strawman, "argument from silence", and a Red Herring ehrnst May 2019 #79

All caps were used because my questions were relevant to the OP despite your protestations Uncle Joe May 2019 #82

As I said... ehrnst May 2019 #85

My questions might seem like a "demand" if one is suffering from cognitive dissonance, Uncle Joe May 2019 #86

I see that we are still attempting the same thing over and over ehrnst May 2019 #115

Okay, thanks for kicking my thread. Uncle Joe May 2019 #116

Really stung, didn't it? ehrnst May 2019 #117

I've seen you mention the "for profit" insurance industry.... George II May 2019 #92

They made enough in profits to spend 23 million dollars in lobbying and that's just Uncle Joe May 2019 #93

The profit margin of the healthcare insurance industry is lower than almost any other industry..... George II May 2019 #94

It makes no difference there should be no profit on the peoples health care from an industry Uncle Joe May 2019 #95

"it makes no difference!" ehrnst May 2019 #118

If there is no profit at all, even minimal, what's the point of being in business at all? And.... George II May 2019 #120

A good argument for single payer DBoon May 2019 #81

Thank you DBoon, it seems that some Americans miss that point. Uncle Joe May 2019 #83

Glad he's calling out the vultures Politicub May 2019 #91

"insurance giant Blue Cross Blue Shield" is a consortium of local non-profit associations ucrdem May 2019 #96

Blue Cross Blue Shield is a consortium that owns for profit "health" insurance Uncle Joe May 2019 #97

Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is a non-profit health insurance provider: ucrdem May 2019 #98

You list a website from Blue Cross Blue Shield on the Internet Uncle Joe May 2019 #99

Beats disinfopedia. Anyway: ucrdem May 2019 #100

I don't know why you believe Blue Cross Blue Shield having a "non-profit" status means they care Uncle Joe May 2019 #102

Funny you mention the NRA ucrdem May 2019 #103

Insofar as you're speaking of non-profit as the be all in determining the good Uncle Joe May 2019 #104

Now you're just making stuff up. nt ucrdem May 2019 #105

I didn't make your post# 96 up, you did. Uncle Joe May 2019 #106

"A nonprofit mutual company." Exactly. Now if you'll excuse me. nt ucrdem May 2019 #107

p.s. here's the problem: BCBS means several things, and you're mixing them up. ucrdem May 2019 #112

If Bernie said he was in favor of parenting and motherhood appalachiablue May 2019 #113

Actually, with his record as a parent, he probably wouldn't want to open that door LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #122

Sanders' MFA approach is a front group, too. Hear me out... Politicub May 2019 #119