BERNIE SANDERS CALLS OUT ANTI-MEDICARE FOR ALL 'FRONT GROUP'

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64. No, you are not right on a few things.

Single payer is a type of universal care/coverage.

Correct.

But the one the majority of the 33 developed countries use is the single payer system. There are some that are a mandate system, like Germany, as well.

Incorrect. There are far fewer countries that use single payer (abolishing other plans -hence the name 'single payer') than use multiple payer systems to acheive universal health care.

Which Countries Have Single-Payer Health Systems?

Fewer than many people think. Most European countries either never had or no longer have single-payer systems. “Most are basically what we call social insurance systems,” said Gerard Anderson, a professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, who has studied international health systems. Social insurance programs ensure that almost everyone is covered. They are taxpayer-funded but are not necessarily run by the government.

Germany, for example, has 135 “sickness funds,” which are essentially private, nonprofit insurance plans that negotiate prices with health care providers. “So you have 135 funds to choose from,” Anderson said.

Nearby, Switzerland and the Netherlands require their residents to have private insurance (just like the Affordable Care Act does), with subsidies to help those who cannot otherwise afford coverage.

And while conservatives in the United States often use Great Britain’s National Health Service as the poster child for a socialized system, there are many private insurance options available to residents there, too.

Among the countries that have true single-payer systems, Anderson lists only two — Canada and Taiwan.

https://khn.org/news/democratic-candidates-debate-single-payer-but-what-does-that-mean/

You just want to argue. But the facts are the facts. I refuse to go down the rabbit hole with you. Go ahead and continue to argue with everyone. But arguing against hard facts is difficult. Truth and facts are what matter.

Someone correcting you on the facts and not backing down when you double down and go on the defensive isn't a "rabbit hole" except for the person who is on the defensive for being corrected. That defensive posture is what could more accurately be described as 'just wanting to argue."