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uawchild

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99. Biden's record on the national stage wasn't awe inspiring, was it?

Fri May 3, 2019, 11:42 AM

May 2019

He didn't lose a single primary, ok... But let's not play word games, let's look at how much support he actually garnered at the national conventions:

1984 Democratic National Convention (Presidential tally):

Walter Mondale – 2,191 (56.41%)
Gary Hart – 1,201 (30.92%)
Jesse Jackson – 466 (12.00%)
Thomas Eagleton – 18 (0.46%)
George McGovern – 4 (0.10%)
John Glenn – 2 (0.05%)
Joe Biden – 1 (0.03%)
Martha Kirkland – 1 (0.03%)

1988 Democratic National Convention (Presidential tally):

Michael Dukakis – 2,877 (70.09%)
Jesse Jackson – 1,219 (29.70%)
Richard H. Stallings – 3 (0.07%)
Joe Biden – 2 (0.05%)
Dick Gephardt – 2 (0.05%)
Lloyd Bentsen – 1 (0.02%)
Gary Hart – 1 (0.02%)

Full article about this here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Joe_Biden#1980s

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Did Biden just say that Dick Cheney is a decent man, and he likes him? [View all] Honeycombe8 May 2019 OP

Old video from the wayback machine. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 May 2019 #2

At least Biden isn't staffing his campaign with Stein voters emulatorloo May 2019 #16

Yes and the terrible staff choices are very much in the present. we can do it May 2019 #28

Indeed, and they are all toxic. We aren't seeing anything like that from anyone else emulatorloo May 2019 #32

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #36

It was Bush's war. Bush invaded. emulatorloo May 2019 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 May 2019 #45

Well Randi, I am not going to talk about Senator Sanders questionable votes because I am not emulatorloo May 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 May 2019 #49

... emulatorloo May 2019 #50

Well, I SURE AS HELL knew bush was lying.... pangaia May 2019 #65

We all knew...what's important though is that Bernie sure as hell wasn't fooled by the Shrub's lies. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #76

But what about 1998? ehrnst May 2019 #84

Oh, c'mon! That was 1998! How far back are you going to go to find this stuff???? George II May 2019 #116

And well, it's different because REASONS!!! (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #117

What about the judgement of someone who voted for military intervention in Iraq twice in one year? ehrnst May 2019 #82

Easy to quarterback from up in the balcony section. Amimnoch May 2019 #89

kudos for this Fresh_Start May 2019 #105

Yes he did melman May 2019 #3

He didn't "just" say it, and people should read/watch the entire video, not just four or five words. George II May 2019 #5

like clockwork melman May 2019 #6

What's that supposed to mean? George II May 2019 #8

I see here in my meticulous records of what DUers write... MineralMan May 2019 #26

uh melman May 2019 #44

Yah, OK, then. Real good, then. MineralMan May 2019 #52

Back at ya... ehrnst May 2019 #109

lolwut melman May 2019 #112

lulz ehrnst May 2019 #114

Bernie, yesterday: "I thank my friend @JoeBiden" ehrnst May 2019 #97

lol melman May 2019 #98

Yep, that's what I wrote. ehrnst May 2019 #100

Did this "surgical editing" melman May 2019 #107

I see you're going to refuse to watch the whole video. ehrnst May 2019 #108

I like the way you put that, 14 seconds from a 50+ minute appearance is surgically edited. George II May 2019 #104

FOUR YEARS AGO, not "just", and it was a passing comment lifted out of a long discussion. George II May 2019 #4

Yes, it's always like that it seems. "I like you, but..." kind of R B Garr May 2019 #11

It wasn't said in passing. When the moderator asked about Cheney, it's what Biden led off with. Demit May 2019 #58

It's taken out of context from long ago, something the Repukes love to do FakeNoose May 2019 #7

Did ya hear that the United States "just" declared their independence from Britain? George II May 2019 #10

I think Morning Joe keeps a powdered wig in his closet FakeNoose May 2019 #13

SO what Biden did/said as VICE PRESIDENTdoesn't matter? uawchild May 2019 #74

Biden was Vice President for 2,922 days, not just 14 seconds in 2015. George II May 2019 #77

I realize you support and like Joe... uawchild May 2019 #87

It was part of a discussion about the Bush-Cheney presidency that went on for awhile. Demit May 2019 #21

Biden gives me a headache BeyondGeography May 2019 #9

It's not that old either. BlueStater May 2019 #25

Every Democrat in the House watoos May 2019 #12

The AUMF was not the resolution for the Iraq War. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #14

Well, Bernie Sanders (I-VT) praised tRump revmclaren May 2019 #15

+1 emulatorloo May 2019 #18

Even more recently than "just" four years ago. George II May 2019 #19

Yup... revmclaren May 2019 #37

Good point. People in glass houses... highplainsdem May 2019 #20

So true. revmclaren May 2019 #35

It's pretty easy to find anyone saying pretty much anything MineralMan May 2019 #22

So do I. Finding negative things to say about a political opponent revmclaren May 2019 #33

How about that? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #86

This is quite different. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #124

Actually it's much, much worse. revmclaren May 2019 #133

"Praising" is a conclusion. Not what he said. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #134

Sorry...you don't get to redefine praise revmclaren May 2019 #137

I worked in litigation, so I know the difference between words & a conclusion about words. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #138

... revmclaren May 2019 #140

If you'd listened a few more seconds, you'd have heard the commentary that there was nothing wrong highplainsdem May 2019 #17

Getting along & working with others is very different from declaring someone to be "decent." Honeycombe8 May 2019 #27

Doesn't bother me. That's the second time I heard him use decent for a political opponent. marylandblue May 2019 #34

Maybe he means he doesn't grab women by their privates and mock disabled people. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #129

And therein lies a major problem. progressoid May 2019 #123

No, he didn't "just say" anything of the sort. emulatorloo May 2019 #23

It was from 2015. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #29

I know. Not sure why it is being brought up in 2019. emulatorloo May 2019 #30

Everything Biden ever did will be dragged out in public for dissection. marylandblue May 2019 #40

I think many of us know why it's being brought up in 2019. George II May 2019 #46

Dunno, this might be good background info regarding this noise. emulatorloo May 2019 #55

Definitely interesting timing for a Sanders group to release this edited video, isn't it?(nt) ehrnst May 2019 #115

He said it while he was Vice President. Isn't that the basis of his campaign, he was Obama's VP? Demit May 2019 #62

so Biden's tenure as Vice President now doesn't matter? uawchild May 2019 #81

It was brought up in 2019 because Biden is running for President. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #131

Of course melman May 2019 #47

Do you realize that discussion between Biden, Mondale, and the moderator was more than 14 seconds? George II May 2019 #24

Thank you. Tipperary May 2019 #57

I timed the full discussion about Cheney. It was around 7 minutes. Demit May 2019 #66

. WeekiWater May 2019 #31

No, he didn't JUST say it. He said it four years ago, MineralMan May 2019 #38

Being rude is not a desirable quality in a President Jose Garcia May 2019 #39

Oh go away!! This was posted yesterday... besides being a very old clip... STOP!!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #41

If this clip is very old, then Biden's vice presidency is very old. Demit May 2019 #69

Do you know who edited it and posted it? ehrnst May 2019 #111

Joe, Michelle and Obama like Bush, who is the one responsible for the war Skya Rhen May 2019 #43

this seems normal to me KayF May 2019 #51

My only question is, are there any clips of Cheney saying anything nice about a Dem? yaesu May 2019 #53

Good question... doubt it!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #56

You heard right... but, I'm guessing Joe's evolved on Dick's decency. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #54

He's not going to win the primary race. BeckyDem May 2019 #59

LONG before 2015... Joe COULD win, though statements like this only make it more difficult... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #60

But he tried long before 2015 and lost then too. BeckyDem May 2019 #61

True, Joe lost two previous primary elections, but one was to Obama... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #73

Which two primary elections did he lose, in which states? In fact he didn't lose any, not one. George II May 2019 #79

1988 was a disaster for Biden uawchild May 2019 #92

I'm very familiar with his previous candidacies, but he didn't lose a single primary. George II May 2019 #95

Biden's record on the national stage wasn't awe inspiring, was it? uawchild May 2019 #99

He's been on the national stage longer than any other candidate we have.... George II May 2019 #106

Biden has been on the national stage for a long time, perhaps too long? uawchild May 2019 #110

Lol. Dick Cheney has nothing to do with nothing. MrsCoffee May 2019 #67

ok, whatever you say. There will be no looking back on Biden's war vote, either. BeckyDem May 2019 #71

Ok, whatever you say, good luck with Trump. MrsCoffee May 2019 #72

I am not moving any goal posts, its called looking at his record in context and it is not good. BeckyDem May 2019 #75

I have no fear of the primaries. MrsCoffee May 2019 #130

Nothing was taken out of context, that is Joe Biden. BeckyDem May 2019 #132

And others like him? MrsCoffee May 2019 #142

This is primary season. BeckyDem May 2019 #143

In Other News, Was Adolph Hitler REALLY So Bad? DoctorJoJo May 2019 #63

There's a piece in the WAPO today about Bernie's "honeymoon in Moscow" redstateblues May 2019 #64

You can say that again. MrsCoffee May 2019 #68

Which is why Republicans are hoping Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee. highplainsdem May 2019 #85

This issue reflects far worse on those outraged than it does on Biden, IMO LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #70

And Hillary was friendly with Henry Kissinger. In both cases The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #78

Some are not happy unless there is yelling and name calling and finger wagging ehrnst May 2019 #113

Decorum of the office - Biden was VPOTUS NYMinute May 2019 #80

If Biden is the best candide to beat Trump, I'll live with this. CaptainTruth May 2019 #83

BINGO!!! LovingA2andMI May 2019 #94

Thank you JustAnotherGen May 2019 #102

Interesting where you found that interestingly and surgically edited clip. ehrnst May 2019 #88

The whole video is on Youtube. I invite you to watch it all, sans surgery. Demit May 2019 #90

I did. And the editing job on the one in the OP excludes a lot of context. ehrnst May 2019 #91

Well, see, I don't think the context contradicts it in any way. Demit May 2019 #101

Interesting. Tipperary May 2019 #93

Bernie, yesterday: "I thank my friend @JoeBiden" ehrnst May 2019 #96

zzzzzzzzzzzz EveHammond13 May 2019 #103

the obamas seems to enjoy kidding around with W nt msongs May 2019 #118

Michelle Obama called George W Bush "beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man" Otto Lidenbrock May 2019 #119

GWB isn't Cheney. Even GWB doesn't speak to Cheney anymore. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #126

"Cheney, Rumsfeld 'didn't make one f---ing decision" Otto Lidenbrock May 2019 #127

Yes, I know GWB resents that. But it's true, IMO. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #128

Out of context emmaverybo May 2019 #120

Well goodness!! A whole BUNCH of outlets posted this old video this week - at the same time! ehrnst May 2019 #121

Interesting observation. NurseJackie May 2019 #122

They all do that. When something hits the news, the others either copy OR it's released by AP... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #125

But who took the time and effort to dig up the dirt revmclaren May 2019 #135

I wouldn't call that "dirt." It's a public forum on a stage that was televised, not long ago. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #136

Little waving guy from now on... revmclaren May 2019 #139

... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #141