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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie has praised Trump and criticized Biden [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)125. So, Bernie's two votes in 2003 were 'different' because REASONS.
And 500,000 dead in Iraq as a result of that vote aren't as relevant as deaths from the 2003 vote because Bernie.
And trying to equate simply pointing out his two votes for military action in Iraq in 1998 with "trying to to put the invasion of Iraq on Bernie Sanders" is what anyone, including those in service, would call Bull Shit. Or more formally, 'attacking a straw man."
Here is a summary from Wikipedia:
A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
And unlike Clinton, Bernie never expressed regret for his votes, and when pressed, tried to brush it off as "nearly unanimous" when 30 others voted no.
Having a one standard for Bernie Sanders an another for everyone else is known as a "double standard."
Here is a summary from Wikipedia:
A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same, and is often used to describe freedom that is given to one party over another.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Sure, just sweep the death, destruction, and obscene amounts of money spent...
SMC22307
May 2019
#11
Bernie also voted for military intervention for regime change in Iraq. Twice. In one year.
ehrnst
May 2019
#53
So... 500,000 deaths over the next 2 years are 'different' because it wasn't a 'declared war."
ehrnst
May 2019
#115
BS is pro-gun, pro-Russia, voted for regime change in Iraq, and voted to fund the trillion dollar
lapucelle
May 2019
#157
Well, it seems some Senators are happy with "feeding the military industrial beast"
ehrnst
May 2019
#133
You have a problem with these Katrina-related and troops-supporting 'yea' votes?
SMC22307
May 2019
#34
LOL Anyone with half a brain knew warmongers Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Feith, Wolfowitz, et al...
SMC22307
May 2019
#31
Bernie gets EVERYTHING right - not just the IWR - when it comes to foreign policy.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#109
Have you noticed that some in Congress and the Senate voted against the resolution?
BlueWI
May 2019
#81
I think that the defensive responses in this thread where I brought it up are telling. (nt)
ehrnst
May 2019
#120
You don't need to read him, because the work is pervasive anti-Biden anti-Beto hitpieces on the net.
emulatorloo
May 2019
#130
That's one way to evade responding to the fact that Biden became a critic of the war.
ehrnst
May 2019
#168
Nuance is only applied to one candidate. All others are judged in good/evil no grey area terms. (nt)
ehrnst
May 2019
#160
Actually more than 500,00 Iraqi children are estimated to have been killed in that action.
ehrnst
May 2019
#92
Thank you, I was pretty young back then so I don't have memories of all of it.
Agschmid
May 2019
#116
It says that most are not a one issue voter, and they went with the most qualified candidate
lunamagica
May 2019
#79
The good news is we have the perfect Democratic candidate who isn't fooled
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#114
Bernie is chasing white voters, who didn't mind voting for a racist in 2016...
SidDithers
May 2019
#72
Conveniently Sanders forgets he voted for the Iraq Liberation Act which was the precursor to
still_one
May 2019
#56
Maybe it was one of those situations like gun control...missing children in Vermont are different...
George II
May 2019
#137
Let's keep it real here. Bernie rags on rump all the time. He should stick to just that. nt
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#148
Biden has attacked Bernie, in fact, wants to kill him because a woman Biden made
Autumn
May 2019
#161
You just made an accusation that Biden wants to literally "kill" Sanders in your title.
still_one
May 2019
#162
It's not my accusation. That's exactly what Biden said according to one of his top backers.
Autumn
May 2019
#163
That is garbage, and you know it. First of all you are basing it on ONE of his unamed supporters.
still_one
May 2019
#164
Great. Can already see us divided and losing again. Losing as in not winning in EC
Laura PourMeADrink
May 2019
#169