Democratic Primaries

doompatrol39

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55. I agree.....

Tue May 7, 2019, 05:07 PM

May 2019

I'm the epitome of an older, straight white male and the Biden Boosters acting like we need an old straight white moderate to come along and save the day is outright offensive to me. And it's even worse when they try to pretend it's not based on that by saying "Oh, I think Biden/Harris or Biden Warren would be great!" Oh gee, how fucking noble of you dear White Knight. Fucking spare me

We have plenty of new, fresh, exciting candidates. We don't need our version of McCain or Romney a safe choice who failed to excite primary voters any number of previous times they ran for the nomination.

Shit, even if we accept that we need a moderate white candidate I'd rather see it be someone younger like Beto. Not that I like him all that much either but shit the idea of going backwards just pisses me off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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"I've told the Democratic candidates not to go too far to the left" [View all] brooklynite May 2019 OP

Ugh...n/t TCJ70 May 2019 #1

Washington Post: "What Nancy Pelosi gets right" brooklynite May 2019 #2

she wants to talk about health care but not MFA. i don't understand her approach. thats kitchen tabl Kurt V. May 2019 #5

Because, politically speaking, M4A is the worst possible way to get universal healthcare. marylandblue May 2019 #44

no doubt it isn't going to be easy. bc it's not being discussed properly by congressional Kurt V. May 2019 #49

No doubt there will be opposition from insurance cos., but marylandblue May 2019 #51

It's being properly discussed by health policy analysts, which is where it should be discussed first ehrnst May 2019 #105

Well, that's kind of a slippery slope - that attitude plays into the hands of the corporate PatrickforO May 2019 #65

The M4A program that Sanders outlined is not actual Medicare marylandblue May 2019 #82

Thank you. Maryland actually has an interesting policy in place to keep down costs. ehrnst May 2019 #119

I don't know anything about that. I do know Maryland is considered a high cost state. marylandblue May 2019 #137

I found some more info on this: ehrnst May 2019 #138

The Green New Deal was nearly tanked by McConnell because of impatience ehrnst May 2019 #108

Yes. Stop ramming M4A down our throats and insisting it is the only way to get healthcare 4all. emmaverybo May 2019 #77

Especially with eight other proposals in Congress and the Senate.. ehrnst May 2019 #111

MFA is not a winning issue....workplace insurance Wiill derail it as it Demsrule86 May 2019 #46

She and all Democrats wants to talk about universal health care. That doesn't have to be MFA. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #67

right. Single payer health care takes many forms around the globe. so m4a may or Kurt V. May 2019 #79

More accurately, Universal Health Care takes many forms around the globe, and few are single payer. ehrnst May 2019 #80

that was really cool. I've bookmarked it. thnx Kurt V. May 2019 #90

How about we suggest candidates be themselves... TCJ70 May 2019 #12

Candidates be themselves?! Voters decide?! WHAT?!?! Sounds too much like democracy!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #32

Heaven forbid they follow the advice of a successful Democratic leader! ehrnst May 2019 #88

"Background attempt at manipulating candidates?" ehrnst May 2019 #89

You should read the entire post before offering criticism... TCJ70 May 2019 #94

Here's your entire post ehrnst May 2019 #96

Once again...reading is fundamental... TCJ70 May 2019 #98

Nice pivot. ehrnst May 2019 #99

It would be. Difficult if I. Could only focus. TCJ70 May 2019 #101

Interesting evasion. Haven't seen that one that blatant before. ehrnst May 2019 #103

She's one of the leaders of the Democratic Party, and she's offering advice to the candidates..... George II May 2019 #93

I know - and it's just a fragment of a sentence, reported by someone... (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #104

Well, you know, Pelosi is the top ranking female LEADER Hortensis May 2019 #125

Slate: Four things she said that don't make sense BeyondGeography May 2019 #28

Some things the author of that article has said that don't make sense... ehrnst May 2019 #97

She's the one with the chops. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #66

lol, RW neoibcon Romneybot Jennifer Rubin, always my go-to for advice for my party Celerity May 2019 #75

good for her, she knows most of the country is not like her district JI7 May 2019 #3

Were there canapes? betsuni May 2019 #4

Sushi and fruit. White wine. brooklynite May 2019 #8

Sushi, fruit and white wine are totally elitist, like canapes. betsuni May 2019 #15

FWIW, the events I went to for Warren's Senate campaign were about the same. brooklynite May 2019 #18

OMG, that is so status quo horse dervers. betsuni May 2019 #24

OH GOLLY, HOPE I can remember: horse dervers!!! elleng May 2019 #74

i like sushi and white wine. I even make my own sushi with spam... samnsara May 2019 #43

Do you wrap the spam sushi with rice in grape leaves? Blue_true May 2019 #59

The mere thought of sushi and fruit eaten close. Blue_true May 2019 #58

Perhaps I should elaborate (since people care so much) brooklynite May 2019 #68

Ok, thanks. That makes my stomach feel better. nt Blue_true May 2019 #71

Dear GOD, not canapes!!!!! ehrnst May 2019 #120

Great advice. democratisphere May 2019 #6

Where do you draw THAT line? Harry Truman would say we have moved too far to the Right Ford_Prefect May 2019 #7

You draw the line where the voters let you draw it... brooklynite May 2019 #9

There are strong lobbiest groups against these intiatives CentralMass May 2019 #21

There will always be lobbyists. There were powerful lobbyists against Medicare and the ACA. ehrnst May 2019 #69

Yes, that has to be addressed. It is a very real obstacle, and a small group of people wanting it ehrnst May 2019 #70

Not where big donors let you draw it... shanny May 2019 #128

Telling a specialized audience what they want to hear without being too specific. delisen May 2019 #10

And that would be the Simplified Truth as opposed to simply telling the truth? Ford_Prefect May 2019 #13

+1 rampartc May 2019 #26

M4A is not right for me, a public option is. marylandblue May 2019 #45

The point is he knew how to respond to the GOP bullies, not that all of his Ford_Prefect May 2019 #48

I agree with you, but I don't think Pelosi is advocating for silence. marylandblue May 2019 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 May 2019 #107

M4A bad for me and many others like me. Also concerned about quality for Medicaid patients emmaverybo May 2019 #78

Americans kept re-electing socialist FDR back then IronLionZion May 2019 #122

Actually, the sticking point for Truman's program shanny May 2019 #129

Too Bloody right it was! Ford_Prefect May 2019 #135

I'm sure the candidates are well equipped to decide for themselves Kurt V. May 2019 #11

By all means mindem May 2019 #14

Exactly! We are so far right that center rainy May 2019 #16

Exactly, well said. watoos May 2019 #19

Manchin will campaign for Collins Ponietz May 2019 #76

Stupid advice, watoos May 2019 #17

Wait, you mean it wasn't centrist, moderate, rust belt voters who gave us our 2018 win? doompatrol39 May 2019 #30

It wasn't them that won it was the democrats that lost by not allowing an inspiring, exciting, rainy May 2019 #47

I agree..... doompatrol39 May 2019 #55

I agree 100% rainy May 2019 #56

What democrats didn't allow an "inspiring non-corporate controlled candidate" to excite the base? ehrnst May 2019 #110

How is this not divisive? theaocp May 2019 #20

Divisive?? ROFL! NurseJackie May 2019 #23

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You hear someone say that they heard something she said, and you're calling it a "threat?" ehrnst May 2019 #102

No, I asked for clarification. theaocp May 2019 #113

Next you'll say that you weren't calling it 'divisive" ehrnst May 2019 #114

It's not a "try". theaocp May 2019 #116

Doubling down. ehrnst May 2019 #117

Do you think I am conducting a push poll? n/t theaocp May 2019 #118

Heavens no. I was just asking for clarification if you knew what one was. ehrnst May 2019 #121

I do. Why? theaocp May 2019 #124

I asked for clarification. ehrnst May 2019 #126

Thanks for the waste of time. theaocp May 2019 #134

Sorry you feel like you wasted your time when you kept responding to these posts. ehrnst May 2019 #136

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What's really meaningful to me is that you care so much... brooklynite May 2019 #33

Couldn't agree more with her johannsyah May 2019 #25

I'll wait for a transcript mcar May 2019 #27

Like Hillary did? doompatrol39 May 2019 #29

"Hillary's in 2016 was one of the more safe" - nope. TwilightZone May 2019 #40

Those articles are 1) Opinion and 2) comparing her to Trump doompatrol39 May 2019 #54

A "Ham Sandwich 2016" campaign would have had a more progressive... TCJ70 May 2019 #57

It wasn't comparing her to Trump. TwilightZone May 2019 #61

Try again. TwilightZone May 2019 #60

O.K. so then let's assume that is correct.... doompatrol39 May 2019 #64

Define "progressive" because that term seems to mean different things to different people. ehrnst May 2019 #83

No, they weren't comparing HRC to Trump. You should read things before ehrnst May 2019 #81

It is delusional to think the 2008 platform was more progressive than 2016. joshcryer May 2019 #62

O.K. then so what you are saying... doompatrol39 May 2019 #63

Define "progressive" because that term seems to mean different things to different people. ehrnst May 2019 #84

I mean... doompatrol39 May 2019 #92

Those are all **standard** Democratic positions. Center left, even. ehrnst May 2019 #95

I'm a bit confused.... doompatrol39 May 2019 #106

I think you are confused. ehrnst May 2019 #109

O.K. I should have clarified.... doompatrol39 May 2019 #112

Thanks for the clarification. ehrnst May 2019 #115

Lets see... WeekiWater May 2019 #31

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That video is spot on HA Goodman. I mean spot on. Creepy how similar. WeekiWater May 2019 #37

Thanks for unskewing the polls for us. BannonsLiver May 2019 #38

I don't know which two recent polls you reference, but those that I've seen poll a cross section.... George II May 2019 #41

The election is young. There is a lot of campaigning and the debates left to go. CentralMass May 2019 #36

Agree. WeekiWater May 2019 #39

He is certainly sitting in a good place right now. CentralMass May 2019 #42

Of course she does. Laelth May 2019 #73

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Good luck with that Nancy. Autumn May 2019 #53

She's been doing just fine with no luck involved. ehrnst May 2019 #85

Go find a post where I'm trashing her or saying bad things about her. You won't find one. Autumn May 2019 #86

..... ehrnst May 2019 #87

Didn't find any posts of me hating on her? Or just too busy to look what with MIRT and all? Here Autumn May 2019 #91

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That's rich, considering rEcEnT eVeNtS. ehrnst May 2019 #132

Hmmm ... Laelth May 2019 #72

I like her short concise speeches IronLionZion May 2019 #123

Not up to her. shanny May 2019 #127

When has it ever been? ehrnst May 2019 #133

I suppose she figures that the middle is where the (corporate) money is. bloom May 2019 #139

Remind us how many progressive candidates (vs moderate ones) won us the House in 2018 brooklynite May 2019 #140