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uawchild

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6. Why I feel Biden and Sanders are too old
Wed May 8, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019

to best represent our party as nominee in 2020.

Glad you asked, I have been posting about this all over the place and welcome the opportunity to explain my view here again:

Our younger candidates like Buttigieg, Booker, Harris, O'Rourke, Klobuchar are DECADES younger than either Biden or Sanders.


I feel that Biden, at age 76, and Sanders, at age 77, are both too old to best represent the party as our nominee in 2020. We have a slew of exceptional and well qualified candidates in the prime of their lives and I hope that voters get behind them and select one as our nominee.

Why? The rigors of being president. it ages everyone that holds the office 10 years. We have all seen that. Biden and Sanders will BOTH be in their 80's at the end of their first term if elected. They will be in there late EIGHTIES at the end of their second term.

Not only are there the usual physical health concerns about men in their 80's in high stress jobs, but AGE RELATED COGNITIVE DECILNE is a real and and well studied fact. Research shows that men between ages 65-70 experience about a 10% decline in fluid cognitive abilities. This decline continues thru the 70 age range.

Don't think this matters? Looking at society at large:

The average age of a CEO in a Fortune 500 company is 59.

The mandatory retirement age of a General in the military is 64 with a few exceptions to stay on until age 68.
(note: was 62-64, updated to current regulations here)

The average tenure for CEO's and generals are both about 10 years, corresponding to ages 54-64 for CEOS and 54-64 for Generals.

Think about that, complex organizations like Fortune 500 companies want and the Military DEMANDS that there leadership serve only from ages 55-65 roughly speaking.

The average age of all 44 U.S. presidents who have taken office was just over 55 years old until tRump took office as the oldest ever at age 70. (President Obama was 48 years old and served until he was 55). The presidency is a grueling job and prematurely ages everyone that holds that office, some people say by 10 years roughly. They all exhibit the signs of premature aging when they leave office.

Biden and Sanders are BOTH over a DECADE older than the 65 year retirement age Wall Street and the Military consider reasonable. And that's even before their first term as president even starts.

So, in closing, thanks again for giving me the opportunity to explain why I feel both are simply too old to best represent the party as our nominee in 2020. That's why I hope voters get behind one of the excellent younger candidates that are running.

Cheers!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Diane Feinstein is 85 years old uawchild May 2019 #1
Old skool has it's place crazytown May 2019 #2
great pic! n/t uawchild May 2019 #5
Why are you DownriverDem May 2019 #3
Why I feel Biden and Sanders are too old uawchild May 2019 #6
Some of those lower "averages", like CEOs and Generals are because.... George II May 2019 #8
64 is the MANDATORY retirement age for Generals uawchild May 2019 #12
Hyman Rickover (1900-1986) retired from Navy at 82. Full admiral. nt oasis May 2019 #17
Mandatory retirement ages, 64-68 uawchild May 2019 #20
Retirement age at Wall Street? crazytown May 2019 #11
Excellent point, Warren buffet is 88. lets look closer... uawchild May 2019 #18
Buffett's tenure has more do do with consistent returns crazytown May 2019 #21
This is the third time I am seeing this exact post repeated NYMinute May 2019 #23
You're welcome to your opinion. Fortunately most Democrats apparently disagree with it, highplainsdem May 2019 #26
time will tell uawchild May 2019 #37
And since you worry about possible cognitive decline, we should consider that Booker played football highplainsdem May 2019 #29
You do realize Biden was a football star? uawchild May 2019 #34
Yes, but Biden's well past the age when football-related brain injuries show up. highplainsdem May 2019 #38
So is Booker. You brought up football, not me. ;) uawchild May 2019 #39
Actually, CTE symptoms don't always show up before age 50, Booker's age. That said, highplainsdem May 2019 #42
But, life expectancy is going up and people are retiring later. LisaM May 2019 #33
Some people believe that it's cute to be an ageist but it is a form of bigotry and I can't stand it. Skya Rhen May 2019 #9
+1 BannonsLiver May 2019 #19
It's not ageist or scornful to look at the physical and mental stresses of the job of POTUS ehrnst May 2019 #22
My mother was showing signs of dementia in her early 80s, my father was sharp as a tack... George II May 2019 #44
Have you read the constitution? zipplewrath May 2019 #28
+1000 redstatebluegirl May 2019 #30
You can comment on age -- old and young and in-between -- without being prejudiced Politicub May 2019 #15
It is not ageist if the "someone" in your example is referring to a particular individual spooky3 May 2019 #24
You have a real problem with your discriminatory ageist posts that you keep spewing. Feinstin and still_one May 2019 #48
Gee could it be DownriverDem May 2019 #4
When did this become a "rule"? Maybe in the eyes of right-wing Washington Examiner.... George II May 2019 #7
Do you have examples? Demit May 2019 #10
Patrick Leahy endorsed Clinton in 2016 Jose Garcia May 2019 #14
Patrick Leahy endorsed Hillary Clinton in early 2016 George II May 2019 #16
Thanks. Though that's possibly partially explained by Sanders not being a longtime Democrat, Demit May 2019 #36
Bless her heart Politicub May 2019 #13
Oh, dear. Well, she owes him. So I guess it makes sense. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author HopeAgain May 2019 #27
Joe is going to have a hard time getting thru the Democratic Primary saljr1 May 2019 #31
I think Joe is doing just fine. Demsrule86 May 2019 #41
Sorry OP, regardless of who she does or does not endorse the Washington examiner still_one May 2019 #32
+1 demmiblue May 2019 #35
Agree. There is no rule and this is a dishonest hit on both women. Hortensis May 2019 #40
Thank you! We think alike. NurseJackie May 2019 #45
That's a shame. I think Kamala Harris could use a boost. But then, not sure Feinstein is someone who Nanjeanne May 2019 #43
I wasn't aware that there's a "home-state endorsement rule" StarfishSaver May 2019 #46
that's a pretty serious rule KayF May 2019 #47
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