Democratic Primaries

Hortensis

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79. Turn harassment charges into a permanent campaign staff union.

Thu May 9, 2019, 11:48 AM

May 2019

Sigh. I'm not saying it wasn't clever of the Sanders campaign, but we need to abolish the corrupt and corrupting full-time elections industry, not feed and institutionalize it further.

Huge money and corruption created it, and this industry is now a driver demanding non-stop election seasons to feed it. Ruthless, unprincipled agents are now able to, and do, make permanent careers out of behaviors that slam doors shut to employment in other industries. And they're proliferating like a cancer, many being rewarded with important positions in government and judiciary.

Oh, well. For now.

But real campaign finance reform that gets money out of politics, including someday repealing Citizens United and the rest, will someday mean campaigns are staffed by part-time workers and volunteers the way they used to be, and that's the way our democracy needs it to be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders Workers Become First Presidential Campaign Staff to Ratify Union Contract [View all] Uncle Joe May 2019 OP

Great move. WeekiWater May 2019 #1

By all parties for all parties, a historic agreement, Uncle Joe May 2019 #2

So was OAC paying her staff the salaries she paid. Campaign staff is a temporary job. sarabelle May 2019 #39

Contented workers generally don't unionize, but hey ehrnst May 2019 #46

are you a contented worker? happy with your pay, benefits & 'work contract rules'? Sunlei May 2019 #128

Why do you ask? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #129

because $20 Federal minimum wage & (gov paid) healthcare for ALL is Sanders platform. Sunlei May 2019 #133

What does this have to do with his staff feeling that they needed to unionize? ehrnst May 2019 #134

Kudos to workers, the union and Bernie IS RIGHT!!! You'd think ALL Democrats would be proud InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #104

For the umpteenth time, BS didn't unionize his campaign, his WORKERS unionized, as a pre-emptive.... George II May 2019 #124

I think it's more the accomplishment of the alumni staff who came forward with ehrnst May 2019 #130

Walking the talk Politicub May 2019 #3

I agree Politicub Uncle Joe May 2019 #4

And perhaps a natural extension of the experiences of staff in previous campaigns. ehrnst May 2019 #47

also notable...walking the walk at the usual Sanders speed Fresh_Start May 2019 #82

Has another campaign formed a union for its workers? Politicub May 2019 #89

how many other campaign's workers demanded it? nt Fresh_Start May 2019 #92

It's a good question. I don't know the answer. Politicub May 2019 #94

But the campaign didn't "give them" union representation. The workers got it themselves ehrnst May 2019 #135

No, the campaign didn't "form a union for it's workers," the workers formed it and the campaign ehrnst May 2019 #131

His campaign workers felt that they NEEDED a Union. Blue_true May 2019 #5

No other campaign felt the need to unionize, that this one did isn't a positive..... George II May 2019 #16

It takes two to tango. Uncle Joe May 2019 #17

That question is a deflection from the reality of the "culture" of Sanders' previous campaign, Joe. George II May 2019 #19

No it is the central issue of the OP, Bernie Sanders was the first campaign in U.S. history Uncle Joe May 2019 #21

If other campaigns had what has been characterized by its own workers as a "culture" of ... George II May 2019 #23

I take it that's a no, you don't believe other campaigns should adopt the Uncle Joe May 2019 #25

Of course not... that would be acknowledging Bernie's cutting edge status. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #26

Cutting edge status... ehrnst May 2019 #48

Riiiiight... make an analogy that has nothing to do with Bernie and his cutting edge campaign. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #50

His entire political career? ehrnst May 2019 #52

His entire political career, yes. Bernie's a progressive superstar... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #55

So are you saying that his former staffers are lying? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #64

I'm saying exactly what I said... no need to change the subject. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #65

You said his "entire political career" ehrnst May 2019 #70

No, read what I said...or don't. I don't care. Your comments are amusing, if, as you say... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #72

I read what you said, and it was a non-answer. ehrnst May 2019 #75

As I said, it's understandable why you fear Bernie is going to win...otherwise you would ignore him! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #77

It's understandable why you would fear hearing inconvenient truths, ehrnst May 2019 #78

More worried about you and your fear of Bernie... let it go and just accept the inevitable! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #80

Really got to you didn't it? ehrnst May 2019 #86

Not in the least!! The only thing "getting to me" is your fear of Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #88

Frantically whistling past the graveyard... ehrnst May 2019 #93

Ahahahahaha! BannonsLiver May 2019 #85

The only "cutting edge" about it was that there was such a high level... George II May 2019 #66

I understand why you also fear Bernie is going to win the Democratic primary & thus pay so much InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #87

As a union member for years revmclaren May 2019 #90

You keep copying and pasting that same response... ehrnst May 2019 #95

"Cutting edge status" BannonsLiver May 2019 #84

when absurd meets surreal nt LibFarmer May 2019 #100

Cutting edge spin? NYMinute May 2019 #102

Reminder (again) - the campaign itself didn't unionize, the workers unionized. George II May 2019 #41

Yes, history shows that benevolent, supportive management was the true catalyst of organized labor. ehrnst May 2019 #49

Argument from silence fallacy, also utilizing attacking a strawman. ehrnst May 2019 #105

I don't think that BS attended all 36 hours of meetings, lapucelle May 2019 #36

Yes, the meeting took place within minutes of the Capital, and went on from late afternoon until... George II May 2019 #42

I understand that he joined them for lunch for about an hour. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #51

"Bernie Sanders was the first campaign in U.S. history to unionize." WeekiWater May 2019 #112

1st Presidential campaign in history to unionize counting the primaries as a Presidential campaign, Uncle Joe May 2019 #117

Correct. NT WeekiWater May 2019 #118

The first Presidential campaign in history 'whose staff felt a need to unionize' is more accurate. ehrnst May 2019 #123

Yes Uncle Joe... so damn proud of Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #125

Apparently those campaign workers felt a need to. ehrnst May 2019 #43

Probably won't matter when the layoffs start. BannonsLiver May 2019 #83

Wow - I didn't think I would see anti-union sentiment on DU. But here it is. Politicub May 2019 #91

Where's the anti-union sentiment? I don't see it. George II May 2019 #96

Props to you for recognizing this and giving credit where credit is due!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #97

People are not being anti Union. The point being made was one set of workers for one Blue_true May 2019 #119

Sadly this was prompted by the "overall toxic atmosphere of the 2016 campaign".... George II May 2019 #6

Sadly I believe you will find this a bit more common in other campaigns as well. Uncle Joe May 2019 #7

Candidates don't unionize, their workers unionize. This isn't Sanders' doing, well.... George II May 2019 #8

Time will tell Uncle Joe May 2019 #9

I'm speechless, or should I say typeless. George II May 2019 #11

Workers in Sanders' campaign felt like they needed the protection NYMinute May 2019 #29

Bernie didn't stop his staffers from organizing. Yay. ehrnst May 2019 #67

Yes it will... and time will tell voters that moves like this are why Bernie's the most progressive InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #10

Don't put quotation marks attributed to me that were never stated and you Uncle Joe May 2019 #12

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #20

Welcome to "Straw Man World" Uncle Joe!! Make yourself at home!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #27

There was no strawman there NYMinute May 2019 #30

IKR? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #56

Common? This is a common occurrence? sheshe2 May 2019 #13

Google "sexual harassment and political campaigns," Uncle Joe May 2019 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 May 2019 #15

Yes, the first campaign (not "Presidential", he's not the nominee) that unionized, but.... George II May 2019 #18

Thanks for the correction, first campaign unless Bernie is nominated in which case it would be Uncle Joe May 2019 #22

I've already answered this previously asked question in post #23. George II May 2019 #24

Do you believe that when workers feel a need to organize, it's a feather in the cap of management? ehrnst May 2019 #57

Couldn't agree with Uncle Joe more... good for his support of Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #28

Yay! Bernie's staff felt a need to organize for collective bargaining! ehrnst May 2019 #60

Bernie didn't unionize his campaign - his staffers did. Bernie didn't stop them. Yay. ehrnst May 2019 #59

Sexual violence is common on political campaigns? N/T lapucelle May 2019 #38

Did whistle blowers come forward from any other campaigns? lapucelle May 2019 #37

Why haven't they before this, do you think? Can you name those other campaigns where ehrnst May 2019 #44

This is a gross failure that is being spun NYMinute May 2019 #31

+1 nt brer cat May 2019 #58

+1000. Status quo, old school political spin. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #76

Why don't you send this meme to the workers who won a union election?? BlueWI May 2019 #113

Please don't misquote me NYMinute May 2019 #114

So it's a congratulatory post? BlueWI May 2019 #115

Kudos goes to the workers who unionized - they are taking the risk. KitSileya May 2019 #32

Any boss who would punish staff for unionizing is scum Kentonio May 2019 #33

Yes, but most likely they'll just be passed over in hiring. KitSileya May 2019 #34

Why bother to try and disguise the fact that you just hate the guy? Kentonio May 2019 #120

So why do you stay, if there is "too much hate" for Sanders? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #136

This staff especially ehrnst May 2019 #45

Good for the workers on this campaign who now have the protections that were lapucelle May 2019 #35

I know, right? It's unclear why the BS campaign thinks this is a moment of pride... NurseJackie May 2019 #53

Congrats to the workers. Contented employees don't organize, so I hope this brings them the WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #40

Would we be praising Walmart if cashiers unionized?...nt SidDithers May 2019 #54

Love that this is happening. Bernie would never hold a fundraiser at a union-busting lawyer's home. aidbo May 2019 #61

His staff is the first POTUS campaign staff in history to feel a need to organize. ehrnst May 2019 #63

A union is always important for communication between workers and bosses. aidbo May 2019 #68

So you don't think that these campaign workers won't have adequate communication ehrnst May 2019 #71

It's historic all right... NurseJackie May 2019 #69

It's status quo political campaign spin ehrnst May 2019 #73

Mic drop... whoomp there it is!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #106

I certainly hope no candidate would support another candidate who is anti-choice. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #132

Will the Union opposed encouraging volunteers? That'll take away potential paid positions... brooklynite May 2019 #62

That's an excellent question. I've been a volunteer worker on MineralMan May 2019 #74

Turn harassment charges into a permanent campaign staff union. Hortensis May 2019 #79

Make unions mainstream again loyalsister May 2019 #81

Well, they haven't been common in campaigns - even those candidates who make sure ehrnst May 2019 #98

I don't know details loyalsister May 2019 #109

You do know about reports from alumni staffers, don't you? ehrnst May 2019 #111

I was not there loyalsister May 2019 #116

So you don't think the reports of the staffers who said there was a gender pay gap ehrnst May 2019 #121

Exactly!! This is a positive labor relationship and it's sad to see it being disparaged just because InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #101

No. It is laughable because NYMinute May 2019 #107

Not at all. The idea that he deserves congratulations for not opposing the union is. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #110

Perhaps this is an example of the resurgence of unionizing due to injustice. KitSileya May 2019 #108

Having been in a Union in a progressive non-profit org, I can tell you ehrnst May 2019 #103

Good! Hopefully women can work in a harassment free environment Amimnoch May 2019 #122

they NEEDED a Union. stonecutter357 May 2019 #126

I wish all campaigns offered their workers this level of pay($20 hour) & health insurance. Sunlei May 2019 #127

I'll just leave this here: Blue_Tires May 2019 #137

Interesting revelation on a campaign staffer who negotiated the contract... ehrnst May 2019 #138