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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
84. It seems I offended you with that correction.
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:50 PM
May 2019

However, he is not a Democratic Senator. He is an independent Senator. He is only a Democrat when campaigning for POTUS, unless something has changed since yesterday. He has never voted on legislation as a Democrat. He is permitted to caucus with Democrats, a privilege graciously extended to him by the Democratic Party.



https://www.sanders.senate.gov/

Serving as a Senator and being a POTUS candidate are two separate things,

I hope that clarifies things. If you still don't believe me, I suggest you call Bernie Sanders office, and ask a staffer.

I don't care what someone calls themselves, their actions are what counts,

Bernie Sanders is a Democrat.


You can make up any definition for a word that you want, I suppose, but that doesn't mean that anyone else will understand or honor your riff on it. Pro-forced birthers call fetuses unborn children, but it doesn't make them children, any more than it makes them unborn teenagers or unborn senior citizens. Words have meanings, and if you want to be understood and taken seriously, then you need to acknowledge that you won't be understood when you try use it in a way the majority of the people you are talking to understand it to mean. You'll be corrected a lot.

Democrat- with a capital D, is a political party, and on Democratic Underground, Democrat means identifying as a Democrat. Bernie Sanders does not identify as a Democrat except when he runs in a primary. Now that you know that, you will have less trouble when Democrats on Democratic Underground refer to Senator Sanders the way that he prefers to be referred to - as an independent.

If you are really interested in respecting what Senator Sanders himself thinks Democrat means, then call his office and ask a staffer if he is a Democrat or an independent. (202) 224-5141 Let us know what they say.

I choose to welcome him and his supporters, as they will make us stronger in the fight against Republicans. I see no use in continuing with sour grapes that weakens our party.


Who here on DU isn't welcoming his supporters? All Democrats are welcome here on DU, as long as they respect the rules. If you think valid criticism of a candidate is "unwelcoming to their supporters" you may be unclear on the purpose of a discussion board. I have no idea what "sour grapes" refers to in terms of Senator Sanders. What do Democrats have to be jealous of?

Maybe you should heed your own advice, if you don't like being corrected, you can always put me on ignore so it no longer bothers you.

BTW - Kim Davis now runs on a GOP ticket. As has been demonstrated with Bernie's senate and POTUS primary runs, the Democratic Party does not require one to have been a Democrat prior to running on a Democratic ticket in a primary.




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Tone, using facts/fiction, trying to evoke an emotional response, rather than a discussion. ehrnst May 2019 #74
I call it a smear when they dig up something from a candidate's remote past, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #76
That's something that Trump supporters demand, and it's not realistic. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #73
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I never wrote anything about not voting. dogman May 2019 #43
Sanders isn't a democrat. nt lillypaddle May 2019 #36
You are wrong. dogman May 2019 #39
Has he already switched over? lillypaddle May 2019 #48
As a presidential candidate, yes. dogman May 2019 #49
I will never consider him a democrat lillypaddle May 2019 #50
He is what Democrats used to be. dogman May 2019 #51
um, no lillypaddle May 2019 #54
From the DU terms of service Metalmom May 2019 #61
Saying he isn't a Dem is bashing him? lillypaddle May 2019 #62
He has always been an Independent in the state of VT as far as I know Metalmom May 2019 #63
True; however lillypaddle May 2019 #64
And another reality is Metalmom May 2019 #69
Why do you say that? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #75
because Metalmom May 2019 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2019 #80
Why do you think the Democratic candiate would lose if Bernie ran as an independent? ehrnst May 2019 #81
You're right Metalmom May 2019 #83
Are you saying that Sanders supporters here on DU aren't Democrats? ehrnst May 2019 #85
You think pointing that he's not a Democrat is an "attack?" ehrnst May 2019 #68
He is a Democrat Metalmom May 2019 #70
No, he is an Independent Senator, and is only a Democrat when campaigning in a primary ehrnst May 2019 #71
Nice response lillypaddle May 2019 #72
Bernie is a Democrat Metalmom May 2019 #78
It seems I offended you with that correction. ehrnst May 2019 #84
And your complaint contains an attack on Sanders? EOM tiredtoo May 2019 #25
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Agree Vidal May 2019 #46
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We inherited the Rockefeller Republicans zipplewrath May 2019 #47
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Read the old threads Kaleva May 2019 #56
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