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Celerity

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65. We are, unfortunately, (I am am very happy to see Biden support it) going to have a hell of a hard
Sat May 11, 2019, 05:43 AM
May 2019

time even getting a public option pushed through, let alone the 'never going to happen for decades' medicare for all pipe dream. The institutional power players are staunchly against even the slightest diminution of their extractive abilities within the for-profit health care matrix.

As Dems debate Medicare for All, a less radical idea stalls in blue states

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/health-care-blue-states-1308730

This was supposed to be the year blue states created government-run health insurance plans, after health care-fueled midterm election victories.

But legislation around the country to craft a so-called public option — a longtime progressive goal — has stalled over political and financial roadblocks, underscoring the challenge of creating coverage expansions even less comprehensive than the "Medicare for All" plan championed by Democratic presidential contenders and progressives in Congress.

Legislative proposals in New Mexico, Nevada and other states to set up a public option to give people more choices — and insurers more competition — have been watered down or shelved as lawmakers struggle to design affordable plans building on Obamacare. And multiple Democratic governors who backed the idea during their campaigns haven’t pushed it since taking office.

“When you’re dealing with a new issue — and this is a new idea — the biggest problem around the idea is one of cost," said former Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, a Democrat. "Where is the money going to come from? And obviously every politician is concerned about that, rightfully so."

The public option has appeal among some moderate Democratic officials hoping to harness the base’s energetic support for Medicare for All in the 2020 elections — while skirting the political risk of embracing the full single-payer overhaul that Republicans decry as socialism. Democrats who have embraced less radical overhauls hoped to leverage the party’s newfound advantage on health care to make progress toward universal coverage this year while contrasting it with Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare.

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There already are troubling signs that the 2009 tactics (where the public option was taken off the table due to immense pressure from the lobbyists) are being baked in the cake yet again.

At Biden's first major campaign fundraiser, in Philadelphia a few weeks back, one of the co-hosts was Daniel Hilferty.

Daniel Hilferty is the CEO of Independence Blue Cross. He is on the board of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the trade association working to defeat the progressive push for Medicare for All. In national politics, Hilftery has exclusively donated to Republicans this year, records show. The health insurance executive gave $5,000 to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., along with smaller donations to other congressional Republicans (see below).

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&contributor_name=Hilferty%2C+Daniel+&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020





Hilferty's group America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), pumped in $102 million in 14 months to try and block Obamacare, now they are doing the same with MFA and even the much milder buy-in option.


Health Care Insurers Spent $100 Million To Defeat Obamacare


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002805314

As the Supreme Court readies to announce their decision on the individual mandate portion of the health reform, it has emerged that the largest health care lobbying group in the country spent a total of $102.4 million in just 15 months to prevent Obamacare from becoming law in the first place.

In 2009 alone, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) pumped $86.2 million into a conservative lobbying group, the US Chamber of Commerce, to combat President Obama’s health care reform plan. But with the added months of 2010 prior to the ACA’s March passage, AHIP piled on an additional $16 million to be used against the bill.

That staggering total, which the National Journal’s Influence Alley uncovered today, was not out in the open — rather, the funds were transferred through a secretive process and listed only by the organization as ‘advocacy’ spending:

The backchannel spending allowed insurers to publicly stake out a pro-reform position while privately funding the leading anti-reform lobbying group in Washington. The chamber spent tens of millions of dollars bankrolling efforts to kill health care reform.


more at link
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/13/499093/health-care-insurers-spent-100-million-to-combat-the-affordable-care-act/




https://www.opensecrets.org/search?order=desc&q=daniel+hilferty&sort=D&type=donors







They are still at it (trying to destroy the public option)


AHIP mobilizes industry opposition to public option (2016 efforts)

https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/ahip-mobilizes-industry-opposition-to-public-option/426659/


Dive Brief:

The leading health insurance industry trade group, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), launched an effort last week to mobilize members against the growing push for a public option, which would create a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private plans on the ACA exchanges.

AHIP's action alert last week asked its members to contact Senate offices and provided a list of talking points to assist in arguments against the public option, The Huffington Post reported.

The move came within hours of the introduction of a resolution by 27 Senate Democrats, led by Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley, calling for the public option--an idea that President Barack Obama and presidential nominee Hillary Clinton have also recently joined forces to support.

Dive Insight:

AHIP's swift action suggests the group sees the groundswell of support for a public option from legislators and advocates as a real threat. The concept has essentially come back from the dead after raising major debate during the crafting of the ACA, but subsequently being left out of the health law due to concerns among lawmakers, including some liberals, as well as opposition from industry groups.

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2019


Partnership Statement On Introduction Of Senate Medicare-X Legislation A Public Option Would Restrict Patient Choice of Plans and Access to Care

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/partnership-statement-on-introduction-of-senate-medicare-x-legislation/


ICYMI: “Medicare Buy-In, Public Option Proposals Would Harm Our Health Care System”

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/icymi-medicare-buy-in-public-option-proposals-would-harm-our-health-care-system/


they also will fight to stop the US government from having the ability to negotiate lower drug prices


A BITTER PILL: HOW BIG PHARMA LOBBIES TO KEEP PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES HIGH

https://www.citizensforethics.org/a-bitter-pill-how-big-pharma-lobbies-to-keep-prescription-drug-prices-high/


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Any reason why we should listen to a Democrat shanny May 2019 #1
Perhaps she was not moderate enough... Skya Rhen May 2019 #3
lol shanny May 2019 #4
Maybe you're just trying to insult her. Cha May 2019 #23
Or perhaps you know nothing about North Dakota's political demographics. TwilightZone May 2019 #26
Pukes barred Native Americans from voting wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #62
Prove it to me she legitimately lost her campaign Submariner May 2019 #7
um OK--I'll give it a shot shanny May 2019 #12
actually her stance against the Kavenaugh nomination likely is what sunk her dsc May 2019 #13
I'm sure it didn't help shanny May 2019 #15
In North Dakota.. I knew there Cha May 2019 #22
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All Cha May 2019 #28
I agree pandr32 May 2019 #55
Aloha, pandr! Cha May 2019 #56
👍🏻 LakeArenal May 2019 #57
She lost due to republicans eliminating a lot of Indian reservation vote. Blue_true May 2019 #38
That appears to not be factual, see post 12 Celerity May 2019 #42
The poster proved no numbers on reservation posdible votes Blue_true May 2019 #60
Probably more reason to listen to her to to listen to anyone on DU Fresh_Start May 2019 #47
Timidity has served so well... HopeAgain May 2019 #2
+1 area51 May 2019 #5
I'm sure Bernie Sanders will be a hit in South Dakota. brooklynite May 2019 #6
Ooph! NurseJackie May 2019 #8
There, as well as in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio... Skya Rhen May 2019 #9
Oh you mean the states where tRump shanny May 2019 #16
Hillary ran on the most progressive platform of a major presidential candidate in history. TwilightZone May 2019 #30
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #35
Nonsense, Trump ran on a manufacturing improvement theme...A leftist Demsrule86 May 2019 #45
We are, unfortunately, (I am am very happy to see Biden support it) going to have a hell of a hard Celerity May 2019 #65
It will be a battle...if we don't get the senante...I don't know. We beat the GOP up eveyday and Demsrule86 May 2019 #66
since when does being a hateful bigoted pervert make them part of the left ? JI7 May 2019 #59
So how about a more moderate embracing MFA? HopeAgain May 2019 #10
North Dakota.. but Excellent point. Cha May 2019 #24
Are these Progressives "timid" as you insult? Cha May 2019 #33
I'm not insulting anyone HopeAgain May 2019 #46
She's partially right...Medicare for America is a far better plan Indygram May 2019 #11
Does she even support a public option? I do not think so. Celerity May 2019 #20
She's right. It's suidicidal. ucrdem May 2019 #14
A major impetus against the ACA was the name Obama on it. Hortensis May 2019 #17
Yes, never fight for what's right FiveGoodMen May 2019 #18
Why would we want anything that the Republicans will offer to replace the ACA? Autumn May 2019 #19
What I gather from her is that if Dems run on MFA, Trump wins election and ACA is replaced Skya Rhen May 2019 #29
That is EXACTLY what Heidi said. Blue_true May 2019 #39
They couldn't replace it when they had the house, senate and WH. ehrnst May 2019 #51
She didn't say that that. That's why it "makes no sense" to you. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #48
I don't want any solution they have to offer for replacing Autumn May 2019 #49
They couldn't find anything to replace the ACA when they had all three branches. ehrnst May 2019 #52
Well, we need to make sure that Trump does not win - put the most electable candidate forward Skya Rhen May 2019 #53
The problem with the ACA is that a good sized chunk of middle class blue collar... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #21
An improved ACA is the answer. MFA is not happening. Those who have work insurance will Demsrule86 May 2019 #44
An employer based insurance is part of the problem, IMO. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #58
The ACA could work with reform. It is all we have. My family members are on medicare Demsrule86 May 2019 #61
Democrats got the first real large scale health care reform passed since the 60's. ehrnst May 2019 #50
Yea, stand for nothing. BeckyDem May 2019 #25
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All Cha May 2019 #31
60 votes to overturn Obamacare.... Chin music May 2019 #27
MFA is not popular with those who have good wasupaloopa May 2019 #32
I agree. Offer Medicare buyin in the ACA for those that need it. Blue_true May 2019 #40
i appreciate the good fight heitkamp has fought during her tenure. her time has passed and Kurt V. May 2019 #34
She is correct . MFA is a political loser in the general. Demsrule86 May 2019 #43
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All Cha May 2019 #36
Of note the majority of our presidential candidates support medicare for all. CentralMass May 2019 #37
I remember Buttigieg saying that he supports Medicare buyin for those that need it. Blue_true May 2019 #41
yes, he does NOT support the Sanders plan, which is politically impossible in today's political Celerity May 2019 #64
Let's Not Forget the Millions Who Like Their Employer's Health Plan dlk May 2019 #54
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... comradebillyboy May 2019 #63
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