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DashOneBravo

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75. Amen

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #27)

Sat May 11, 2019, 09:57 AM

May 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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How fucked up is the USA when the word "socialism" is a candidate killer [View all] stopbush May 2019 OP

Had an easy answer to your title FBaggins May 2019 #1

How true. Perfect example - TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #2

It speaks to a latent sadism ck4829 May 2019 #3

Authoritarianism. Some are naturally Hortensis May 2019 #74

Socialism gas always been a campaign killer vlyons May 2019 #4

it was a fellow Democrat,Manchester Boddy, who first called her the Pink Lady, down to her underwear Celerity May 2019 #82

Forty years of unchallenged hate radio lying about socialism & democrats. CrispyQ May 2019 #5

Agreed, both words should be alarming. NurseJackie May 2019 #6

I hate it most when they slam the programs socialism has brought us. rgbecker May 2019 #8

I'm a Democrat, and I believe that Socialism is bad. NurseJackie May 2019 #10

So, you want to do away with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid? stopbush May 2019 #13

... NurseJackie May 2019 #18

Those things are not socialism. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #27

I wish everyone was as smart as you. NurseJackie May 2019 #41

I'm not especially smart, but I've become more and more irritated The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #43

Bravo! Kilgore May 2019 #54

Amen DashOneBravo May 2019 #75

Very good. Thank you. Firestorm49 May 2019 #76

No. FDR was not a socialist. Those programs are rooted in left liberal policy emulatorloo May 2019 #30

Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #36

A social program and socialism are vastly different things. AncientGeezer May 2019 #32

Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #37

those were democratic party programs. not by socialists JI7 May 2019 #59

.... ehrnst May 2019 #83

Jackie! Tell me you didn't turn down the oportunity to join the Nurses Union. rgbecker May 2019 #14

Don't tell me what I think. Don't lecture me. NurseJackie May 2019 #17

You ask people not to patronize you, yet your response stopbush May 2019 #23

Unions aren't socialism emulatorloo May 2019 #29

Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #38

... NurseJackie May 2019 #35

The Soviet Union was communist not socialist. lapucelle May 2019 #77

You seem to be confusing anything that's progressive with "socialism." ehrnst May 2019 #84

Instead of socialism, how about economic democracy, is that bad? Humanist_Activist May 2019 #25

That's socialism...by definition. AncientGeezer May 2019 #33

Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #39

Yes, by why is it bad? n/t Humanist_Activist May 2019 #42

Well... if you have to ask... NurseJackie May 2019 #44

Why is it so hard to explain, how is workers owning and controlling their workplaces bad? Humanist_Activist May 2019 #46

As a "worker"...I owned and ran my buisness...for 30 yrs AncientGeezer May 2019 #48

Why couldn't they, were they not as intelligent as you, or incapable of cooperating with each other? Humanist_Activist May 2019 #51

I'll ask again...where has it worked? AncientGeezer May 2019 #62

Several places, here's a link: Humanist_Activist May 2019 #66

Because no investor would ever loan money to start up a company run/owned by employees. riverine May 2019 #49

Well that's not true... Humanist_Activist May 2019 #50

Tiny little companies. I said "of any size" riverine May 2019 #52

Yeah, teeny tiny like a company owned by 83,000 workers.... Humanist_Activist May 2019 #56

JLP, a UK based company with a nice ESOP plan for employees riverine May 2019 #57

Its not, what is your point? Humanist_Activist May 2019 #58

I'm not wrong. Employee cooperatives (where everything is equal) only work for small companies riverine May 2019 #61

So there you go moving goal posts again, try again. Humanist_Activist May 2019 #65

That doesn't show where it's worked as I asked.....only an idea... AncientGeezer May 2019 #69

So real world examples of cooperatives, some existing for decades or more, isn't enough? Humanist_Activist May 2019 #70

You linked wikipedia....I can link a rainbow farting unicorn.... AncientGeezer May 2019 #81

Yes it is.... AncientGeezer May 2019 #45

Bravo! Kilgore May 2019 #53

Social programs are not socialism. See #27. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #28

Yes. Thank you! NurseJackie May 2019 #40

Bravo! Kilgore May 2019 #55

When are we going to hear the "F-Word"/ Fascism? appalachiablue May 2019 #7

Have any candidates admitted to being a Fascist? Jose Garcia May 2019 #86

Which socialist state isn't a dictatorship? comradebillyboy May 2019 #9

Only one of those states had a claim to being socialist. crazytown May 2019 #12

When faced with successful Socialist accomplishments some deny it MarcA May 2019 #22

Even Venezuela failed at the whole "socialism" thing when most of its economy... Humanist_Activist May 2019 #24

What part of the Venezuelan economy is still capitalistic? AncientGeezer May 2019 #64

Its's as fucked up as the word "union" being a campaign killer uawchild May 2019 #11

Unfortunately this is the country we live in. Agreed that the word... brush May 2019 #15

"He's (Biden) had a blue-collar, man-of-the-people image his whole political career " uawchild May 2019 #16

It's not about whether he is/was a lunch pail carrying blue collar worker... brush May 2019 #19

It's about being MORE than the image uawchild May 2019 #20

I'm sure they're working on it too. What I like is that he's not... brush May 2019 #21

First things first, one of the things that annoys me is the American use of the word "Socialism" Humanist_Activist May 2019 #26

Having lived under a socialist dictator, I can only say: half way robbedvoter May 2019 #31

It hasn't killed Sanders and he's not shy about it ucrdem May 2019 #34

Well as you note, Sanders isn't much of a socialist. emulatorloo May 2019 #47

Well, when even too many in the party that is supposed to be liberal.... doompatrol39 May 2019 #60

Not sure many people are taking the dictator talk seriously. TwilightZone May 2019 #63

Most Believe Socialism Is Not American Gothmog May 2019 #67

Washington Post-Opinion: Voters aren't playing along with the media narrative Gothmog May 2019 #68

The USA is fucked up for reasons that come way before the misunderstanding of "socialism" MH1 May 2019 #71

Thank you. ehrnst May 2019 #73

It's a racist dogwhistle that took the place of "communism." ehrnst May 2019 #72

Wait...what? I don't think the USA is "fucked up". That's a horrible thing to say. lapucelle May 2019 #78

It's pretty fucked up in a lot of ways BannonsLiver May 2019 #79

There are many messed up things in our country, lapucelle May 2019 #80

good point, the gun culture is a sign of being fucked up, but not rejection of a failed system that JI7 May 2019 #87

Gallop-Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President Gothmog May 2019 #85

I wouldn't vote for a socialist. comradebillyboy May 2019 #88