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karynnj

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106. What you do not day. The Republican is a moderate who was a popular incumben
Sat May 11, 2019, 05:57 PM
May 2019

Christine ran a good campaign, with very little support from national Democratic organizations. Also not mentioned, like Massachusetts, the Democrats now have veto proof majorities in both Houses of the legislature.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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He did same for many, if not all, of his House campaigns. George II May 2019 #1
I knew about the senate, not the house. Thanks. n/t cynatnite May 2019 #2
Not true. Dems ran someone against him in 6 of his 8 House elections. thesquanderer May 2019 #8
There are no strong popular democrats in Vermont except for Howard Dean. Blue_true May 2019 #3
If he's going to be a Dem, then be a Dem... cynatnite May 2019 #4
I see your point. I am not disagreeing with you. nt Blue_true May 2019 #10
It is cynical and manipulative. In my opinion "working the system" is less impressive than NurseJackie May 2019 #24
A whole lotta people aren't okay with that. kstewart33 May 2019 #63
Except he's had the same liberal, progressive stances his entire career Lordquinton May 2019 #94
I'm okay with that. Bernie's caucused with Senate Democrats all these years & deserves our gratitude InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #101
But it shows that he won't be able to unite a party blue cat May 2019 #104
Just the opposite is true. Bernie can unite our party, as he's shown... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #105
Leahy? NT WeekiWater May 2019 #5
He is already seated. I was referring to a new face. nt Blue_true May 2019 #11
Yes. That is partly the reason why Vermont is the only state that's never sent a woman to Congress KitSileya May 2019 #19
The massive hypocrisy and Hortensis May 2019 #27
Vermont is one of the whitest most rural states in the country. Blue_true May 2019 #95
Sure. Where Democrats get a long-time lock on government, Hortensis May 2019 #97
What you do not day. The Republican is a moderate who was a popular incumben karynnj May 2019 #106
Why Would There Be Me. May 2019 #56
He wins because the people vote for him. dogman May 2019 #6
Yes, because he doesn't allow a Dem opponent... cynatnite May 2019 #7
Here is what I read. dogman May 2019 #9
Democrats have learned that it's not worth running "against" him.... George II May 2019 #14
What's more.. tonedevil May 2019 #40
A three way race in VT, where there are many GOP, would likely split the Dem vote enough to give ehrnst May 2019 #70
And, so it goes. /nt tonedevil May 2019 #72
Very lucky beneficiary of that situation, from his very first run for Senate.(nt) ehrnst May 2019 #91
He didn't even bother to show up for the scheduled debate with his Democratic opponent last year.... George II May 2019 #16
How does he not "allow" a Democratic opponent? Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #17
Bingo. Bernie identifies as an independent because of his convictions regarding our two party KPN May 2019 #61
He runs as a Democrat because of the money and the media exposure. He said so. ehrnst May 2019 #68
Well duh. You are right though. I neglected KPN May 2019 #86
The Democratic Party in Vermont clears the primary field for him. ehrnst May 2019 #66
He wins because he precludes the possibility of a Democratic opponent. George II May 2019 #12
I spent many years living in Vermont and that's not quite correct Indygram May 2019 #21
Sounds popular to me. dogman May 2019 #23
He's known and not widely disliked Indygram May 2019 #25
is that why Sanders didn't do anything to support the Democratic Governor that tried to get Single JI7 May 2019 #31
I am not familiar with Vermont politics in recent years Indygram May 2019 #42
I've noticed that Sanders refuses to talk at all about GreenMountain Care, even ehrnst May 2019 #44
As per the OP, the Democratic Party clears the field for him in the VT Senate primaries. ehrnst May 2019 #39
I don't see how... tonedevil May 2019 #13
It is... but, why let that stop a good opportunity to bash Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #37
Talking about how the Democratic party helps Bernie's win every Senate campaign is "bashing" him? ehrnst May 2019 #46
Implying there is something shady... tonedevil May 2019 #49
Saying that one has their own view on that partnership isn't "bashing" ehrnst May 2019 #52
Youre SO right, just hafta READ the OP to know it's not all about the Democratic Party helpin Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #67
It's like when I don't understand why some keep posting the same post, word for word, ehrnst May 2019 #83
The fact is that the Vermont Democratic Party would prefer to see him elected over a republican... George II May 2019 #41
I guess... tonedevil May 2019 #47
Considering the three-way race up there, I guess it's better to have a quasi-Democrat than.... George II May 2019 #51
That's pretty much how I see it too. /nt tonedevil May 2019 #62
Bingo Me. May 2019 #59
I thought it was sleazy when I first read about it. He's like a squatter in the Democratic Party. catbyte May 2019 #15
It is a weasly strategy LibFarmer May 2019 #18
Win three primaries for one seat? dogman May 2019 #22
Again... the Democratic party clears the primary field for him in VT. ehrnst May 2019 #45
Good.. thank you for this Cha May 2019 #20
K&R stonecutter357 May 2019 #26
What a joke of a thread watoos May 2019 #28
I've seen a variation of this OP dozens of times... for what purpose?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #33
Talking about how the Democratic Party helps his senate campaign is "tearing him down?" ehrnst May 2019 #50
If he's so popular, then he should easily beat Democratic and Republican Senate challengers. W_HAMILTON May 2019 #69
I have an extreme dislike of BS, and want to see him defeated asap Amimnoch May 2019 #29
For the most part, Vermonters vote on issues, not party. democrank May 2019 #30
Well said Democrank. rgbecker May 2019 #32
Yes, and Bernie's broad appeal to Democrats AND Independents based on InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #35
Winning a Democratic primary is the best indicator of the strongest POTUS candidate.(nt) ehrnst May 2019 #54
I agree, and Biden lost BADLY in TWO prior primary contests. That's not to say he couldn't win InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #71
The voters always decide who the nominee is. ehrnst May 2019 #73
Yes voters do get to decide who any election winner is, under normal circumstances. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #79
All of the modern Democratic primaries have been "normal circumstances." I'm sure if you knew of any ehrnst May 2019 #82
Didn't say they weren't "normal circumstances," but, then why would any candidate NOT want that? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #84
What primary wasn't "normal circumstances?" ehrnst May 2019 #85
Love it. Sort of gas light him with strange questions about "normal circumstances." rgbecker May 2019 #87
.... ehrnst May 2019 #88
"Sort of gas light him with strange questions"...say what? Glad you enjoy that poster's gaslighting. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #92
LMFAO!! I specifically noted that i DIDN'T say that... yet you keep claiming I did. Too funny!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #89
Now we're back to "I never said that!" when you get cornered by a logical rebuttal. ehrnst May 2019 #90
You certainly have a vivid imagination, I'll give you that! You keep repeating somethin I NEVER SAID InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #93
Project much? ehrnst May 2019 #107
Yes, I've even seen some say they'd rather see Bernie run as an Independent in the general election InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #34
Who is "demanding loyalty?" (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #48
A part-timer with full-time benefits dalton99a May 2019 #36
Seems like an argument for term limits. Who's with me? MH1 May 2019 #38
"I might make this a separate post in GD later." Good idea. nt GemDigger May 2019 #60
If you do that, then all the newbies would have to rely on lobbyists to get them up to speed. ehrnst May 2019 #65
That's a good counter-argument. But I still don't like the system as it is. Also, Senate seats MH1 May 2019 #75
The job is complicated by the nature of the work. Like it or not, it won't get simpler. ehrnst May 2019 #80
K&R for visibility lunamagica May 2019 #43
I can't tell... Tribalceltic May 2019 #53
Bernie is playing by the rules as they are written. Laelth May 2019 #55
He's known the rules his whole long career. He was a Superdelegate, after all. ehrnst May 2019 #57
I agree. Not positive. n/t Laelth May 2019 #77
How Are The Rules Written To Allow This Election After Election Me. May 2019 #58
It varies by state, but yes. Laelth May 2019 #76
Pen To Paper Me. May 2019 #81
Yep, and that's certainly splitting hairs. kstewart33 May 2019 #64
I knew what you meant, but thanks for the qualifier. n/t Laelth May 2019 #78
Tired of the same old BS. we can do it May 2019 #74
I like this about Bernie and does the VT Dem Party... aikoaiko May 2019 #96
He runs in and wins the Democratic primary. Voltaire2 May 2019 #98
Yes, I've seen variations of this OP dozens of times...it serves no purpose to keep regurgitating it InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #100
I'm no Bernie fan, but, what this does is prevent a Repub winning with like 35-40% Tarc May 2019 #99
Bernie wins because he is a Senator from Vermont and he represents his constituents there well. Freethinker65 May 2019 #102
In a way... Mike Nelson May 2019 #103
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