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Indygram

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161. Don't put words in my mouth
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:38 PM
May 2019

"Resolution" means whatever the hell SHE is looking for in order for her to be satisfied with whatever he says or does so that she is able to move forward and heal. That doesn't require forgiveness unless she wants it to.

I am a survivor of long term severe domestic abuse and multiple rapes so I understand better than most. I also understand non-apologies since I have had to sever ties with two siblings for horrendous behavior towards me and upon giving them a chance to fix things I received the lame "I'm sorry IF I hurt you" garbage. I was very clear about what I needed from them, right down to explaining that a non-apology was unacceptable because they were not taking responsibility for what they did. So yeah, I have been exactly where Anita Hill is and I understand that she did nothing wrong and didn't deserve how she was treated and yes, I do think he owes her a better apology than he has given. I also don't believe that he understands what it is he is doing wrong with his apology. At this point, IF she wants a real apology and he is trying to apologize and WANTS to make it right then she just needs to tell him what he is doing wrong. The fact that she is saying she's not satisfied without doing that means that the lack of a resolution is on her. She's fortunate that he actually WANTS to make it better. I don't have that luxury and it's really difficult to heal emotional trauma caused by someone else you are constantly reminded of without a real apology because it's very difficult to forgive someone who is not sorry. Joe Biden is sorry but he doesn't know how to apologize properly. She has the opportunity to do what I will never be able to do because the person who played a role in bringing great harm to her life wants to make it right. And yes, at this point I'm growing a bit irritated with her for just complaining about it publicly instead of just telling him exactly what he can say or do to satisfy her. If there is nothing he can do or say then she should just say so and move on.

In the future you probably should not assume to know to what extent anyone understands a situation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Biden is not responsible for violence against women Fresh_Start May 2019 #1
Nobody said he is, but nice try in changing the subject of the post. mtnsnake May 2019 #4
The answer to your question is that Anita Hill should regognize and accept what "Fresh_Start" said LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #7
Not too demanding, huh? BeckyDem May 2019 #87
No, but that wasn't the question. The question was what would I do. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #88
But you answered with "what Anita Hill should do". KPN May 2019 #130
Fair enough; my bad LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #136
Not changing the subject just looking at what Anita Hill is actually doing.... Fresh_Start May 2019 #11
Anita Hill DownriverDem May 2019 #20
Do you think she has been doing nothing? Cuthbert Allgood May 2019 #39
PLEASE TELL US..... what has she been doing. Document with links please. trueblue2007 May 2019 #123
Then argue it. BannonsLiver May 2019 #166
I don't understand why she came forward now. mobeau69 May 2019 #105
Maybe... tonedevil May 2019 #143
Claiming you said somethin you didn't say to change the subject? Welcome to a not so exclusive club! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #56
I have great respect and empathy for her and refuse to put expections on her. hlthe2b May 2019 #2
demand clarence Thomas be removed JI7 May 2019 #3
He should resign, Biden did not assault Anita Thomas did katmondoo May 2019 #15
Hill. Iggo May 2019 #95
If I were in her shoes, I would be pushing to get the sexual predators off the supreme court. Farmer-Rick May 2019 #63
bingo!!! gopiscrap May 2019 #113
What is most frustrating about this treestar May 2019 #150
I would so exactly what she's doing, and rightfully so. nt Autumn May 2019 #5
Of course you would DownriverDem May 2019 #21
Exactly- how are we gonna get Bernie nominated if we don't Franken every single democrat? Still In Wisconsin May 2019 #53
No one is Frankening Biden, that's ridiculous. Biden has a history, just like Bernie does. Autumn May 2019 #60
"I'm of the opinion Bernie or Biden are the two who may very well get us four more years of Trump." Still In Wisconsin May 2019 #67
Yes I am. So far Warren and Inslee have not yet moved into my top spot. Autumn May 2019 #83
Sorry Anita Pantagruel May 2019 #6
Agree! True Blue American May 2019 #12
I agree too! DownriverDem May 2019 #22
Me three!:) True Blue American May 2019 #132
well this is kinda gross. we, all of us, are the sum of our experiences. we really don't Kurt V. May 2019 #27
No she isn't Lordquinton May 2019 #36
I think you should move on from this LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #110
It's not mine to move on from Lordquinton May 2019 #168
LOL LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #169
She is not helping anyone. This post is disgusting. nt DURHAM D May 2019 #64
Okay, that's enough. Iggo May 2019 #96
She may want another democrat to win and defeat Trump. Blue_true May 2019 #104
Imagine if she continues to make it an issue after the primary madville May 2019 #8
Well then, DownriverDem May 2019 #23
You'd lose that bet... NurseJackie May 2019 #9
Exactly DownriverDem May 2019 #24
LMGTFY progressoid May 2019 #116
Well said. Owl May 2019 #98
She should take a bow. She should not compare Kahuna7 May 2019 #10
My bit? True Blue American May 2019 #13
Monica Lewinsky is a totally different case and she never claimed sexual harassment JI7 May 2019 #18
No, but she surfaces True Blue American May 2019 #33
OK. Just so we're clear. Cuthbert Allgood May 2019 #40
I am a woman True Blue American May 2019 #48
Boom! That says it all! redstateblues May 2019 #126
Real change has occurred as a result whathehell May 2019 #84
Such as? nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #92
LMGTFY progressoid May 2019 #119
Stop, please. Any actions stemming from me too are directly a result Kahuna7 May 2019 #134
Huh? progressoid May 2019 #149
Nonsense.. whathehell May 2019 #154
It's not nonsense. You have no idea what it USED TO BE like... Kahuna7 May 2019 #156
Lol.. You have no idea of my age, my gender or WHAT I've experienced! whathehell May 2019 #171
Psst... Kahuna7 May 2019 #172
Pssst.. whathehell May 2019 #173
You've heard of Harvey Weinstein, Bill O'Reilly, Charley Rose, whathehell May 2019 #153
Apples and oranges. Similar, but not the same. And from Kahuna7 May 2019 #157
Similar, but "not the same" as what? whathehell May 2019 #170
I'd never forgive Joe Biden - ever. I'd keep my mouth shut and not give ammunition to 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #14
Why do you DownriverDem May 2019 #25
I'm not the one who was supportive of Clarence Thomas. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #49
why keep my mouth shut? Thomas is there and now the other opressor might get up there too robbedvoter May 2019 #71
I'm not the one who supported Clarence Thomas. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #81
Biden did not vote for thomas. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #93
He didn't support Anita Hill either. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #94
It wasn't his job to support her. It wasn't his job to ride in on a white horse Kahuna7 May 2019 #100
I'd never forgive him if I were Anita Hill. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #101
Will you vote for Biden revmclaren May 2019 #129
A woman True Blue American May 2019 #131
I don't know...I'm not her qazplm135 May 2019 #16
That was my first reaction too, and I can't go back in time. George II May 2019 #17
For starters, I would not falsely accuse Joe of mistreating me when he clearly did not. Skya Rhen May 2019 #19
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #35
+1 LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #47
"Hatch, Grassley and Simpson." LenaBaby61 May 2019 #108
Beat me to it. LakeArenal May 2019 #151
Move on. awesomerwb1 May 2019 #26
Move on True Blue American May 2019 #34
It isn't Anita who needs to move on. DURHAM D May 2019 #66
there is only one person allowed to make that decision. her. Kurt V. May 2019 #28
Exactly right... I respect whatever Anita thinks is the right thing to do... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #62
+1 shanny May 2019 #75
I don't think I would do the exact same thing she is doing. MH1 May 2019 #29
Well, for one thing Butterflylady May 2019 #30
Why they bring it up? They can't help it. demosincebirth May 2019 #55
I'd go after the Republicans who put Thomas forward and smeared me during hearings, not emmaverybo May 2019 #31
1000+ True Blue American May 2019 #42
Brilliant - as an aside, someone like you would be a huge asset Skya Rhen May 2019 #46
I am blushing Many thanks. emmaverybo May 2019 #61
I would in no way assist Rudy Giuliani, Clarence&Ginny Thomas oasis May 2019 #32
wait, are the primaries over already? robbedvoter May 2019 #69
Remain silent homegirl May 2019 #37
Ditto Funtatlaguy May 2019 #59
I'm glad she is speaking up now, and I encourage anyone who has any legitimate damaging information DCofVA May 2019 #38
Speaking out against Biden NYMinute May 2019 #45
Didn't even know she was speaking out. Good for her and excellent point. robbedvoter May 2019 #70
I don't know what I would do. WeekiWater May 2019 #41
I would keep my mouth shut. MicaelS May 2019 #43
LOL - Another Anita Hill thread to pound on Biden NYMinute May 2019 #44
Thank you. True Blue American May 2019 #51
I leave it to each woman to determine where their energies are best put... cynatnite May 2019 #50
We are fighting for our personhood today in several states delisen May 2019 #52
Anita Hill doesn't realize one thing LibFarmer May 2019 #54
Forgetaboutit! demosincebirth May 2019 #57
Millions of us women are in Anita Hill's shoes-time for more men to put themselves delisen May 2019 #58
Unbelievable that there are a bunch of people on here DURHAM D May 2019 #65
Existing? 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 robbedvoter May 2019 #73
Oh please.. whathehell May 2019 #155
I would be very vocal. I wouldjoin forces with Christine Blasio Ford robbedvoter May 2019 #68
If I were in Anita Hill's shoes radical noodle May 2019 #72
That's what sticks in my craw. shanny May 2019 #77
As a woman who is 71 radical noodle May 2019 #91
If she isn't satisfied with what Biden has said at this point then she should... Indygram May 2019 #74
uh...she did that. shanny May 2019 #79
Really? Exactly what did she ask? Seriously. Skya Rhen May 2019 #111
Google's your friend. Seriously. shanny May 2019 #112
So you don't know either - she is very vague with her demands so that they can't possibly be met. Skya Rhen May 2019 #114
I think that's accurate. Here's what she wrote yesterday ucrdem May 2019 #115
lol shanny May 2019 #117
Apologies for what? What is Biden supposed to be apologizing for? Specifically. ucrdem May 2019 #122
oy shanny May 2019 #124
Meaning it's basically a nothingburger, like Benghazi. ucrdem May 2019 #125
Lol shanny May 2019 #127
her NYT article? Yes I read it. She misrepresents what occurred in the hearings. ucrdem May 2019 #128
Yup. You are. shanny May 2019 #139
A call 28 years later... tonedevil May 2019 #144
So an apology for apologizing and then an apology for not apologizing? ucrdem May 2019 #147
No, she really didn't other than making it clear that she is not satisfied Indygram May 2019 #120
No, she really did. shanny May 2019 #121
Saying what is "not enough" doesn't cut the mustard Indygram May 2019 #135
Some things that have been broken cannot be mended. shanny May 2019 #138
If resolution is not what she is looking for then she either wants revenge or has ulterior motives Indygram May 2019 #140
What's "resolution" in this case? shanny May 2019 #141
Perfectly stated. /nt tonedevil May 2019 #145
Don't put words in my mouth Indygram May 2019 #161
"it seems to me" is not equal to putting words in your mouth shanny May 2019 #162
Biden is not my choice... Indygram May 2019 #163
I wish you peace. shanny May 2019 #165
Rec is for the mention of saidsimplesimon May 2019 #76
I wouldn't say anything MaryMagdaline May 2019 #78
I don't think she is simply trying for some payback. shanny May 2019 #82
I'm not impugning Revenge motives to Anita Hill MaryMagdaline May 2019 #85
+1 shanny May 2019 #118
I'm good with Anita Hill and letting the chips fall where they may. aikoaiko May 2019 #80
Silent? I hope we work for that to be a never. BeckyDem May 2019 #86
In Utah, Orrin Hatch is held as a paragon of Mormon virtue... Anders8 May 2019 #89
Anita Hill is entitled to her feelings, regardless of what they are peggysue2 May 2019 #90
+1000 nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #97
I don't know. Iggo May 2019 #99
Anita Hill pamdb May 2019 #102
What I would do is direct my attention towards Clarence Thomas, who was the harasser at the time.... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #103
That would be a good start. ucrdem May 2019 #107
OP is not quite accurate... Hill's rights were NOT ignored. Her grievances were heard by the world. ucrdem May 2019 #106
Thank you for all your responses to this thread, everyone. mtnsnake May 2019 #109
I would have moved on a long time ago. secondwind May 2019 #133
I would also talk about the racism loyalsister May 2019 #137
I am a black woman and do not appreciate anyone being falsely smeared. Anita does not get a pass Skya Rhen May 2019 #142
I'm not sure who you are referring to loyalsister May 2019 #148
I was referring to Joe Biden who is being smeared by Hill's allegation that he treated her badly. Skya Rhen May 2019 #158
Since he apologized and made statements of regret loyalsister May 2019 #159
Biden made statements of regret regarding the way she was treated by others. He rightfully insists Skya Rhen May 2019 #164
Me? I'd work as hard as I could to get Democrats elected MineralMan May 2019 #146
"that was always my response to crappy times in politics." Yes. Hortensis May 2019 #167
Be pissed...and rightfully so. AncientGeezer May 2019 #152
I would stop using this for self promotion and STFU. BIDEN did nothing to her. Demsrule86 May 2019 #160
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