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Hortensis

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46. Based on what for both? We're rural dwellers and know
Sun May 12, 2019, 01:40 PM
May 2019

rural liberals and conservatives, farmers and gardeners.

Conservatives have for the most part been using faith to stay loyal to their party for what cannot be supported by rationality. That's true whether rural or urban.

Feeling "close to the land" is a real thing, but compartmentalization allows them to keep their feelings and observations AND their denial. We know true nature lovers who haven't read National Geographic or watched a nature documentary in years because they mention climate change. And by that they know these media are all corrupt.

And, sadly, there are the other millions of rural dwellers who clear-cut their lots so they don't have to rake or clean leaves out of gutters and then hide all summer in air-conditioned boxes with the windows tight shut. Same as suburban and urban.

On the plus side, though we certainly cannot win "back" (!) rural conservatives we never had, we're already winning minds and voters in rural areas. REMEMBER the midterms? When suburbs went blue and rural areas around the nation went pink? That thrilled me so much I don't know how anyone could forget.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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After the tariffs went into effect a journalist went to rural America to talk to farmers. CrispyQ May 2019 #1
Bingo. I know some of those farmers. They're being ruined by these tariffs, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #2
They have become the new "welfare queens". dogman May 2019 #4
Hate radio is prevalent in these areas because this is what these people want to listen to StarfishSaver May 2019 #20
Seems contradictory to starfish saving. If the KPN May 2019 #32
I can't save all the starfish so I'm saving the ones I can StarfishSaver May 2019 #38
The baking on the beach parts made me smile. That's KPN May 2019 #41
I agree with your friend. StarfishSaver May 2019 #42
Ah, but it's not about convincing. Isn't it more KPN May 2019 #43
I'm all for educating voters, especially those in our community StarfishSaver May 2019 #45
Catered to? How so? Campaigning in all 50 States? KPN May 2019 #47
Spot on. nt DURHAM D May 2019 #3
Hate radio has been around at least since the 1980s Uncle Joe May 2019 #5
The hate message is Wellstone ruled May 2019 #6
I don't think that political solutions fix those problems Uncle Joe. Blue_true May 2019 #22
Regarding climate change and sustainable farming Uncle Joe May 2019 #40
Based on what for both? We're rural dwellers and know Hortensis May 2019 #46
I hope small farmers are more amendable to change, but the way they currently Blue_true May 2019 #52
Don't risk the base by trying to appeal to the white racists... SidDithers May 2019 #7
+1000! sheshe2 May 2019 #11
Thank you! StarfishSaver May 2019 #19
How would appealing to more people by way KPN May 2019 #33
Here's how StarfishSaver May 2019 #39
I'm not convinced. I don't buy the either-or perspective. Nor do I buy the perspective that all KPN May 2019 #48
Not going to matter madville May 2019 #8
Agreed customerserviceguy May 2019 #10
Exactly right. Blue_true May 2019 #23
Tilting at windmills LibFarmer May 2019 #9
My take on the "need to win back rural America" abqtommy May 2019 #12
I agree! Rhiannon12866 May 2019 #30
Interesting electoral college maps below. Might be better to concentrate on our strengths and.... George II May 2019 #13
I like that link George Uncle Joe May 2019 #17
I agree. Put the proper resources into Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvanis Blue_true May 2019 #24
great link! Celerity May 2019 #37
What winning back rural America might mean? loyalsister May 2019 #14
You present a reasonable argument. Blue_true May 2019 #25
Ever impressive loyalsister May 2019 #29
One of the great successes of President Obama was that he spent a good number of days Blue_true May 2019 #53
Exactly -- "overdue policy that could benefit KPN May 2019 #34
Crap. Pure crap. Amimnoch May 2019 #15
I'm from rural America and I say Politicub May 2019 #16
My county has long depended on government jobs. Blue_true May 2019 #26
They'll keep on voting that way even after the kochs take over their farms MarcA May 2019 #49
Uncle Joe, the only question about the grocery business is whether Amazon Blue_true May 2019 #18
As a former Floridian I LOVE Publix Jake Stern May 2019 #28
Publix does do very good prepackaged convenience food. Blue_true May 2019 #54
Why are we still trying to chase these voters who clearly are not interested in voting Democratic? StarfishSaver May 2019 #21
We go there to cut into Trumps margin in the purple states or ones that Blue_true May 2019 #27
Please tell me you're not serious. mtnsnake May 2019 #50
the gains in rural districts in the mids didn't go unnoticed. think tanks like the center for Kurt V. May 2019 #31
I dunno. Behind the let's not waste resources on KPN May 2019 #35
The majority of rural America are not farmers. And most farms are agribusiness. wasupaloopa May 2019 #36
Sure glad I'M not the one to have to deal with this. calimary May 2019 #44
As a resident of the second poorest county LakeArenal May 2019 #51
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