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2naSalit

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62. It's a laundry list but I'll just go with
Mon May 13, 2019, 09:48 AM
May 2019

Public Land issues and how much more it matters to everyone than most imagine. Yes they belong to We the People, but the government manages them and they suck at it in DC due to corporate influence.

The vast majority of Americans see public land as their favorite place to go camping or participating in some favored recreation on weekends and vacations but they have a far more serious effect on the survival of us all and too many fail to see that. And just coming here on vacation does not oblige us to totally accommodate every tourists' desire, though that seems to be the mindset of our visitors who rudely inform us they expect that, and these are the American tourists.

There is no realization about how the public lands, purposely set aside for more reasons than cattle grazing and ATV rides, sustain us by way of natural processes. Sadly, we Americans, as a whole, expect that everything on earth was put there for us to use as we wish with little regard to how these places, yes even the sage deserts, make it possible for us to exist, yet we don't seem able to notice that we can do something about how they are managed. At present, they are managed, for the most part, in such a way that extractive industries have had free reign to chip away at them to the point where we are all endangered, yet nobody really pays attention until they go on vacation. And having some respect for nature is absent in many Americans, thus, much of the problem's origin can be found in how we "use" our favorite places when going out to play.

Saturday evening I went to a dinner party and met a nice gentleman who was very intelligent and seemingly aware of many issues facing the citizenry, but he had no clue about most of the concerns involving public lands and how they are managed for destruction while most regulations and rules to help sustain during and after use are ignored by the industries and a large number of recreationists.

That is one issue where I will fight to the mat, but I'm burned out from educating and protesting and lobbying. Where I live, I am surrounded by public lands, Wilderness, BLM, NF, NP, and state conservation lands, and still it is not enough to protect what we need to sustain us at survival level in the near future. But let's approve some more mining, drilling, timber harvest and cattle chopping it all up, I'm sure we'll learn our error as we take our last, desperate gasps.


Just sayin'.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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That is exactly what Elizabeth Warren is doing! Ohiogal May 2019 #1
It's what Beto does, too, and it something I love about him Indygram May 2019 #6
I like Senator Warren's energy. Blue_true May 2019 #52
So I'm in NJ JustAnotherGen May 2019 #2
I agree with much of what you say. I have no need to appeal to narrow minded, conservative and beachbum bob May 2019 #4
If we have to "face" anything, it's that Bernie reached out to them on Fox and had an impact. ancianita May 2019 #13
you have to be realist, NO democratic message will ever appeal to 100% of the american people, never beachbum bob May 2019 #41
Representation does not have to be an either/or proposition Indygram May 2019 #8
I truly believe that Senator Warren will prioritize places like yours. Blue_true May 2019 #53
Yes to the 50 state strategy. RobertDevereaux May 2019 #3
+1000 h2ebits May 2019 #12
There are votes to be had in every part of the Country NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #5
We rural DEMOCRATS 2naSalit May 2019 #7
There are plenty of votes to be had in rural America Indygram May 2019 #9
That low population states are overrepresented in the Senate is just a plain fact. Demit May 2019 #10
Like hell we do... 2naSalit May 2019 #14
We are governed by rural America. That is a fact. BannonsLiver May 2019 #36
Every state gets two (2) Senators 2naSalit May 2019 #58
The senate is the more important body BannonsLiver May 2019 #67
I live in a small population, mostly white state too and my views have changed Bettie May 2019 #57
+10000 BannonsLiver May 2019 #31
Do tell us. Did you urge your rural fellows to watch the Democrats who've shown up on Fox? ancianita May 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita May 2019 #17
I can only guarantee 2naSalit May 2019 #59
I do understand and agree with your position on Congress' composition. I was addressing ancianita May 2019 #60
It's a laundry list but I'll just go with 2naSalit May 2019 #62
THANK you. Very much. Public lands in every state are in this shape. My son in NM tells the ancianita May 2019 #63
Here's a link 2naSalit May 2019 #64
Thanks. I'll check it out. I don't endorse the source for my link below, but it does highlight ancianita May 2019 #65
Definitely in statewide and federal elections dalton99a May 2019 #11
Some counties are lost causes. Case in point: Roberts County, Texas Quemado May 2019 #15
There are 19 or 20 Democrats living there dalton99a May 2019 #18
It's true. We NEVER hear about rural voters in more rural states. doompatrol39 May 2019 #19
If only we could hear what rural voters thought, things would be so much better StarfishSaver May 2019 #20
People of color don't ONLY live in urban areas Indygram May 2019 #23
The point is, nobody is neglecting these people... doompatrol39 May 2019 #25
I wasn't talking about the candidates (I edited my original post) Indygram May 2019 #32
"Some people say" doompatrol39 May 2019 #39
I don't need to be told that black people live in rural areas StarfishSaver May 2019 #34
Which Dems are "ignoring and/or demonizing rural voters"? DesertRat May 2019 #21
Not really the candidates so much as this site Indygram May 2019 #24
Really? StarfishSaver May 2019 #35
You know what I mean... Indygram May 2019 #42
Do you actually have an example of this? Andy823 May 2019 #49
Trump Is In The WH Me. May 2019 #22
Quick! Name a State without rural voters. Deb May 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author 33taw May 2019 #27
sigh qazplm135 May 2019 #28
Absolutely. And we, as Democrats, need to stop doing those things, too. MineralMan May 2019 #29
I went back and edited the title to the original post to better represent what I meant Indygram May 2019 #30
It's difficult for many people to see beyond their own experience. MineralMan May 2019 #33
I don't have a problem with reaching out to rural voters StarfishSaver May 2019 #37
Yesterday Beto O'Rourke was in a very small town in NH, mostly white people in the crowd Indygram May 2019 #43
It shouldn't be an either/or situation. But, in reality, it usually is. StarfishSaver May 2019 #45
I agree Bayard May 2019 #38
Amen to that. Duppers May 2019 #46
Excuse me? Who is "demonizing" them? Maven May 2019 #40
So true StarfishSaver May 2019 #44
+1 treestar May 2019 #48
Are they just registered from the old days? treestar May 2019 #47
You should hear TheFarseer May 2019 #50
Yeah, what the fuck ever Downtown Hound May 2019 #51
We need some of them to win. Blue_true May 2019 #55
Pretty much agree. Although, I'd identify some key rural areas that might have 10% Hoyt May 2019 #56
I live in Tennessee and I wish candidates Irishxs May 2019 #54
It terms of policy, and I think to our deteriment politically, we have focused on them dsc May 2019 #61
I guess I just don't understand why some here are SO OPPOSED to candidates talking to rural voters Indygram May 2019 #66
How Ted Cruz held off Beto O'Rourke in Texas Gothmog May 2019 #69
Beto tried reaching out to rural voters in 2018 Gothmog May 2019 #68
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