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MicaelS

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41. And most of those Democrats...

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Mon May 13, 2019, 09:45 AM

May 2019

Do not give a damn about Anita Hill. That is a much older cohort's obsession.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Here on DU, a lot of us think the general Democratic population is like us. It's not. [View all] MineralMan May 2019 OP

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He's already had two shots. mobeau69 May 2019 #2

Well, he's taking a third shot, isn't he? MineralMan May 2019 #5

1st shot since his eight years as VP pandr32 May 2019 #62

Excellent point! cwydro May 2019 #197

Exactly pandr.. I like the way you put Cha May 2019 #204

Good one, Cha! pandr32 May 2019 #246

1987 was 32 years ago, and he was only 45. He has learned and accomplished a lot since then. George II May 2019 #13

32 years ago means nothing to the repubs. mobeau69 May 2019 #36

We want to win DownriverDem May 2019 #65

If he can't generate enthusiasm, how is it that he's so far ahead in the polls? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #68

For some, he seems to be the preference based on perceived electability marylandblue May 2019 #75

Everyone is making this too complicated... DemocracyMouse May 2019 #122

Biden-Harris duhneece May 2019 #131

Ah.. Aloha, duhneece! Cha May 2019 #205

Works for me Hekate May 2019 #231

He seems to be generating enthusiasm. MineralMan May 2019 #84

Many voters connect True Blue American May 2019 #111

And that's a very powerful influence. MineralMan May 2019 #113

For one, everybody in the world know who he is. pangaia May 2019 #168

That helps, but it doesn't necessarily generate enthusiasm. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #171

They know Bernie too, he ran a national campaign in '16, but it doesn't seem to be helping. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2019 #277

I'm with mobeau on this one lambchopp59 May 2019 #221

That's a shame. Jakes Progress May 2019 #230

Your personal offense aside, I choose to live here in the north bay. These are unmistakably lambchopp59 May 2019 #258

What personal offense. Jakes Progress May 2019 #267

"You need new friends". These are my neighbors, co-worker, and it's Sanders or "forget it" to them. lambchopp59 May 2019 #270

Are you going to vote for the Democratic nominee? Jakes Progress May 2019 #274

Yes lambchopp59 May 2019 #282

That is good to hear. Jakes Progress May 2019 #283

I'm with these "black 18 to 29 year old likely Democractic voters.. " Cha May 2019 #234

This polling is interesting Gothmog May 2019 #257

Here's to it continuing, Goth! Cha May 2019 #259

Well, I guess we really do make our own beds. BannonsLiver May 2019 #247

lol NYMinute May 2019 #44

Yes.. and right now smearing the leader is all too front and center!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #201

Nixon took three shots at it. LakeArenal May 2019 #46

Nixon was 2 out of 3. Hillary was 0 for 2 and isn't running now. mobeau69 May 2019 #59

Once more with feeling: HRC won. We had a treason problem going on. Hekate May 2019 #126

True that but unfortunately it won't be recorded that way in the history books mobeau69 May 2019 #146

If we don't deal with our little treason problem we won't win this time, either. Right? Hekate May 2019 #154

The "two shots" argument is irrelevant now. Biden's grown ideologically and gotten more experience emulatorloo May 2019 #53

Doesn't matter DownriverDem May 2019 #64

In the Age of President Pussygrabber do "gaffes" still mean what they used to ? Pluvious May 2019 #83

Biden's so-called gaffes have become something of a false meme, like Ford's alleged clumsiness, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #87

Very good point - reminds me of the false "Gore said he invented the Internet" meme Pluvious May 2019 #95

Sometimes the word "gaffe" is used euphemistically. mobeau69 May 2019 #98

Sometimes it's not. Cha May 2019 #207

And there goes the New York Times again, making my point. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #218

So did Reagan. Demsrule86 May 2019 #109

He went down in flames, as you put it, not me. Butterflylady May 2019 #144

Great point, Butterflylady.. "..went Cha May 2019 #203

The third time is a charm nvme May 2019 #182

He gets an unlimited number of shots. Politicub May 2019 #183

So did Reagan. So did Nixon. One of Biden's times was against Obama. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #191

Oh gawd.. "..2 shots.." That Cha May 2019 #202

Cha Hekate May 2019 #232

Aloha, Hekate.. Cha May 2019 #233

It's odd that we have to keep reminding folks about that. MineralMan May 2019 #272

It's like they weren't Cha May 2019 #275

That's not really news... brooklynite May 2019 #3

No, it's not news. Its my opinion. MineralMan May 2019 #4

Mineral Man, True Blue American May 2019 #10

Thank you. I agree. MineralMan May 2019 #20

I also think True Blue American May 2019 #22

No doubt he will, along with some Democrats who are close MineralMan May 2019 #27

Since I am True Blue American May 2019 #119

Yes, Joe will probably get a quite a few of those unhappy repugs to vote for him over trump. FM123 May 2019 #63

Ha! NurseJackie May 2019 #18

Thanks! MineralMan May 2019 #23

Ikr! Cha May 2019 #208

Apparently, it's only news if you post about a lunch companion. cwydro May 2019 #60

I know I've never had lunch with a presidential primary candidate. MineralMan May 2019 #85

... Yonnie3 May 2019 #86

Apropos of today's news, did I mention the dinner I had with Steve Bullock? brooklynite May 2019 #252

But it's well stated and well framed news. We do tend to forget here that most Dems are not like us. ancianita May 2019 #17

Reports from cocktail parties and cotillions aren't news either. BannonsLiver May 2019 #249

Name recognition... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2019 #6

Everything you said is true, except you left out one thing. marylandblue May 2019 #7

Anyone with his record in politics would have name recognition. MineralMan May 2019 #9

Yes, but it's important in assessing his poll numbers this early. marylandblue May 2019 #73

I had the same reaction, marylandblue Jarqui May 2019 #140

"He has the highest name recognition and familiarity of all the candidates." WeekiWater May 2019 #14

I'm not just talking about Sanders, who people know now and don't like marylandblue May 2019 #71

I do agree with your overall point. WeekiWater May 2019 #77

People are tuned in NYMinute May 2019 #45

" It is not about name recognition. People know Biden..." marylandblue May 2019 #72

Almost all Democrats know Biden, BS, Harris, Warren, Beto, Booker and Klobuchar. NYMinute May 2019 #133

See post 160 on why I added the word "familiarity." marylandblue May 2019 #161

By that definition NYMinute May 2019 #184

Yes, that's why Biden starts with an advantage nobody else has. marylandblue May 2019 #210

There are a few not so well known. cwydro May 2019 #200

So we're going with BS for Sanders while all the rest get last names? rgbecker May 2019 #248

Biden and Sanders have comparable name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #78

This isn't about Sanders. marylandblue May 2019 #79

you are the one who claimed that Biden is leading because of name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #100

I said "name recognition AND familiarity." marylandblue May 2019 #160

You are exactly right.. and BS is always on Cha May 2019 #212

The debates will be difficult for Joe. aikoaiko May 2019 #213

He absolutely shredded paul Ryan for the VP debate drray23 May 2019 #279

I would consider Castro as having WH experience. WeekiWater May 2019 #8

That's true, although HUD isn't all that visible, MineralMan May 2019 #12

Completely agree. WeekiWater May 2019 #19

Being HUD director is pretty narrow experience. MineralMan May 2019 #173

I consider the impact of HUD to be more expansive than you do. WeekiWater May 2019 #178

I think WH experience isn't much of a factor anyway. thesquanderer May 2019 #102

Just a little picky here.......... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #129

Right, I could have gone back further and added Kennedy beat Nixon (nt) thesquanderer May 2019 #143

That's true. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #147

I would imagine True Blue American May 2019 #16

I would be shocked to see republicans there. Shocked. WeekiWater May 2019 #21

Notice, I said True Blue American May 2019 #25

I see no indication he would have republicans. WeekiWater May 2019 #39

This is the worst selling point imaginable angrychair May 2019 #141

there are no moderate republicans.... getagrip_already May 2019 #29

Charlie Crist was a moderate Republican. WeekiWater May 2019 #42

Charlie is now a Democratic Congressman.:) True Blue American May 2019 #104

'Ya know............. MyOwnPeace May 2019 #132

I don't even like it when someone says they want "change." They'd have Doitnow May 2019 #196

I would feel safe with Joe Biden and that is his biggest draw. katmondoo May 2019 #11

I agree. Feeling safe is also very important. MineralMan May 2019 #15

Not a workable combination Boomer May 2019 #117

DU does not represent the demographics of the Democratic Party Gothmog May 2019 #24

No, it doesn't. More's the pity, perhaps, but MineralMan May 2019 #31

I'm extremely grateful that there is a huge progressive-Democrat demographic spread out along Magoo48 May 2019 #142

The entire point of the opening post in this thread is that MineralMan May 2019 #151

Surely, "the most important issues to many voters" Ghost Dog May 2019 #167

Not necessarily. MineralMan May 2019 #170

Yes, I agree with all your well-expressed points. Thanks MineralMan for all you do. Ghost Dog May 2019 #174

That is hugely important, to be sure. MineralMan May 2019 #176

+1000 I certainly do wish that more Dems could see that slow and steady wins the game Thekaspervote May 2019 #206

Well said. Good points. So much to consider, and yes, ousting Agent Orange is #1. Magoo48 May 2019 #240

Joe biden doesn't wag his finger at you like a grumpy uncle in a crumpled suit..... getagrip_already May 2019 #26

Bernie's hand gestures while speaking are always distracting MineralMan May 2019 #49

Beto comes to mind immediately drray23 May 2019 #280

I haven't really watched him much, MineralMan May 2019 #281

Not to mention he is the only candidate who has gravitas on the Kahuna7 May 2019 #28

Yes. For those who think about international relations, MineralMan May 2019 #32

Right now Foreign Policy Mr.Bill May 2019 #40

Congrats to you, Mr. Bill.......... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #139

Yes The world likes Joe. LakeArenal May 2019 #47

"relationships with our allies need to be repaired and restored" Ghost Dog May 2019 #169

Joe is a strong candidate but to anoint him as our only hope this early is no less than ridiculous mtnsnake May 2019 #30

I did not do that. I'm commenting on his early lead in primary polling. MineralMan May 2019 #38

He did well debating Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin one-on-one, yes. Demit May 2019 #67

Do you think he'll do poorly? I don't. MineralMan May 2019 #82

I don't make predictions. But I do recognize that there are different variables to consider. Demit May 2019 #101

Sharp-minded debaters don't always come across well to voters. Biden's warmth, self-confidence, emmaverybo May 2019 #162

I watched two of his rallies, in Pittsburgh and in Iowa. They were friendly crowds, and Demit May 2019 #180

It is not name recognition. Demsrule86 May 2019 #115

I know.. That implies that Cha May 2019 #220

Agreed. MBS May 2019 #163

You're right. Now let the bashing begin!! oldsoftie May 2019 #33

Perhaps. I don't know. MineralMan May 2019 #51

I do like Biden for all the reasons you listed. Bluepinky May 2019 #34

If it was, Kucinich would have been president in 2004 Renew Deal May 2019 #35

That was before I first came to DU. MineralMan May 2019 #43

I think it's a mistake to lump minorities in your sweeping statement. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #37

Oddly enough, I did not mention minorities at all in my post. MineralMan May 2019 #52

Progressive ideals and minority objectives are locked in step. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #56

And most of those Democrats... MicaelS May 2019 #41

I give a damn about Anita Hill, but that was a long time ago. MineralMan May 2019 #54

He's safe, he's known, and he's a comfortable entity associated with Obama. TruckFump May 2019 #48

This post is DU thinking. pdsimdars May 2019 #50

".. DU thinking.."? What you do Cha May 2019 #211

I see this post has nearly 9500 views and rapidly rising Ghost Dog May 2019 #235

Well, there you go. Du thinking. pdsimdars May 2019 #241

K&R DashOneBravo May 2019 #55

He Wouldn't Be My 1st Choice, But a Biden/Harris Ticket Would Be Unbeatable! DoctorJoJo May 2019 #57

I agree. That would be an excellent ticket! MineralMan May 2019 #58

Biden is my first choice DownriverDem May 2019 #66

The only way Biden makes sense infullview May 2019 #61

Could you consider editing your title, please? TygrBright May 2019 #69

Well said. ananda May 2019 #70

well, in the end, it all depends what percentage actually votes, & for the 60% who didn't vote yaesu May 2019 #74

I find one big thing wrong with this post: sarabelle May 2019 #76

The current Biden lead is actually due to: Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #80

Sanders and Biden are both at nearly 100% name recognition. That hasn't helped Sanders. highplainsdem May 2019 #93

Your post is the most realistic view of the way the future is shaping up mtnsnake May 2019 #97

"Darling plan from the left"? Biden is great AllyCat May 2019 #81

In order to get the change you want, you have to have voter support. Demsrule86 May 2019 #127

By doing more of the same ? AllyCat May 2019 #227

There you go again, saidsimplesimon May 2019 #88

Predictable, eh? Thanks! MineralMan May 2019 #90

It's difficult for me saidsimplesimon May 2019 #96

Biden is in many ways a less impressive version of Hillary Clinton BeyondGeography May 2019 #89

Well, the fact that there are so many Democrats in the primary race MineralMan May 2019 #105

Are you saying it cannot be "extinction emergency"; Ghost Dog May 2019 #172

I wonder if you understand how few people even know what MineralMan May 2019 #175

Interesting mtnsnake May 2019 #118

almost everyone running is a less impressive version of HRC..I'm thinking Mayor Pete Fresh_Start May 2019 #217

By "version," I mean generation and political disposition BeyondGeography May 2019 #226

I know two devout Trumpies who said they'd vote for Biden. JohnnyRingo May 2019 #91

That's a good sign, for sure. MineralMan May 2019 #108

So, they're less Cha May 2019 #216

What goes on here isn't going to have any measureable impact in the real world. Kaleva May 2019 #92

K&R highplainsdem May 2019 #94

KR NT ProudProgressiveNow May 2019 #99

I am not surprised that Biden has a large lead and I am happy with this lead Gothmog May 2019 #103

Three more electability factors to consider MBS May 2019 #106

"Since the Trumpistas and Republicans will do everything possible to subvert the election..." Ghost Dog May 2019 #236

completely agree. n/t MBS May 2019 #242

My Facebook feed is already being flooded with "handsy Joe gropes women" memes. redgreenandblue May 2019 #107

And my Facebook feed has none of that. MineralMan May 2019 #112

This 15-minute TED talk will explain some of that Ghost Dog May 2019 #237

I have none of that. Demsrule86 May 2019 #128

the disgusting parody website is STILL number one on Google search returns Celerity May 2019 #159

There is none of that on my FB.. Cha May 2019 #222

Sounde like you have creepy FB friends LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #269

Great points. llmart May 2019 #110

I didn't see Hillary Clinton being intimidated. Demit May 2019 #145

I heard Hillary talk about this in one of her interviews. llmart May 2019 #148

Sure, I read that as well. But it didn't sound like she was saying she felt intimidated. Demit May 2019 #157

My take is that once the debates start someone is going to emerge out of the pack of Democrats and saljr1 May 2019 #114

Yes, and it could very well be Joe Biden who emerges. MineralMan May 2019 #116

More that a few think that person will be Warren, Buttigieg, or Harris mtnsnake May 2019 #124

Biden is a great debater and there are 20+ candidates... Demsrule86 May 2019 #130

Seems more like wishful thinking to me. BannonsLiver May 2019 #250

Sound reasoning. You make it sound like the average Dem in this country has good sense... Hekate May 2019 #120

Yeah, well, maybe there's some sort of collective intelligence out there, MineralMan May 2019 #123

Perhaps the biggest way DU is not like the general Dem population... thesquanderer May 2019 #121

I like your use of the word "like." MineralMan May 2019 #125

And where does this lead us with regard to our female candidates? CTyankee May 2019 #165

And that would add to the evidence that at the moment its about name recognition. nt pnwmom May 2019 #136

Not entirely. From the same poll... thesquanderer May 2019 #156

Thanks for the info at your Morning Consult link Ghost Dog May 2019 #238

This jumped out as so true... Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #134

It seems that way to me, too. MineralMan May 2019 #137

It is time we are honest with ourselves... c-ville rook May 2019 #135

It is not 1948 any longer. MineralMan May 2019 #138

As far as running a third term and doing better Doreen May 2019 #149

While I will vote for whomever the Dem candidate is angrychair May 2019 #150

+1 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #153

Preach. He was also President Obama's wingman which makes him underthematrix May 2019 #152

Joe Biden has supported plenty of non-progressive legislation. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #155

A lot of people tend to focus on the progressive side rather than searching for purity. BannonsLiver May 2019 #251

With so many other options, I look at the whole picture. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #256

So has Bernie ...most long term senators have... called compromise. Demsrule86 May 2019 #271

This post is about Joe Biden and a claim made about him. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #273

The Amen Choir is right here!! Peacetrain May 2019 #158

But isn't "slow and steady progress" just too slow, Ghost Dog May 2019 #164

Before we can do anything, we have to undo what Trump has done. MineralMan May 2019 #185

Yeah. How to move such a behemoth... Ghost Dog May 2019 #190

Thank you thank you! redstatebluegirl May 2019 #166

Thanks MineralMan get the red out May 2019 #177

Great list of domestic skill sets. For me, I would also add foreign affairs experience plus MFGsunny May 2019 #179

Well, Biden has some pretty good chops in that area, too. MineralMan May 2019 #186

Very true I think srobertss May 2019 #181

You are correct about your Subject Line Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #187

Name recognition is a canard. TwilightZone May 2019 #188

No...Biden is the only one with widespread name recognition. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #193

Thank you for posting this Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #199

data says Biden and Sanders are virtually tied at name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #219

Nixon isn't remembered as VP. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #224

Exactly.. BS has made sure he has name Cha May 2019 #225

Biden will do well in the swing states - especially Pennsylvania and Michigan FakeNoose May 2019 #189

Thank You For Writing This About Biden Indykatie May 2019 #192

Funny thing is that everyone thinks they're part of the "base." MineralMan May 2019 #194

Many thanks to everyone who replied in this thread. MineralMan May 2019 #195

I've had my differences with you, but you the man! That was a good post. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #209

That's very kind of you to say. MineralMan May 2019 #214

I have family proud patriot May 2019 #198

All you can do is try. MineralMan May 2019 #215

It's called sour grapes. BannonsLiver May 2019 #253

I like "he's not a leftist, he's a democrat." demosincebirth May 2019 #223

Practical Cary May 2019 #228

Using the term ''left" is actually a pretty broad statement. What's so bad about the ''left''? YOHABLO May 2019 #229

Joe Biden has all the media attention. Chemisse May 2019 #239

Correct. Real Democrats want Trump out. Number one priority. McCamy Taylor May 2019 #243

It is ridiculous to say that most DUers aren't even thinking about voting dumpster out. debsy May 2019 #244

"Voting for Joe Biden is not voting for someone who represents our interests." MineralMan May 2019 #245

It'll probably be awkward for you if Harris ends up as his running mate. BannonsLiver May 2019 #254

K&R! Thank you, MM! R B Garr May 2019 #255

My pleasure! MineralMan May 2019 #260

Joe Biden's early state polling looks more like those of past winners than losers Gothmog May 2019 #261

I think a lot of voters are saying, "OK. Joe Biden. He's my choice." MineralMan May 2019 #262

Biden can beat trump-if the choice is between Woke and winning, I go with winning Gothmog May 2019 #263

I'm intrigued by O'Rourke, but Biden, Harris, Warren, Booker are all terrific. VOX May 2019 #264

I'm hopeful we all will back our nominee and work to help elect him or her. MineralMan May 2019 #265

Absolutely and without question. VOX May 2019 #266

Agree 100% n/t OhioChick May 2019 #268

73% of Democratic respondents said Biden's experience makes them more likely to back him Gothmog May 2019 #276

Good sign. MineralMan May 2019 #278

Everyone I know that is not involved like we are marlakay May 2019 #284