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100. you are the one who claimed that Biden is leading because of name recognition

Mon May 13, 2019, 11:21 AM

May 2019

I'm pointing out that this is not true in all cases.

here is your statement: "Everything you said is true, except you left out one thing.
He has the highest name recognition and familiarity of all the candidates."

And that is not an accurate statement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Here on DU, a lot of us think the general Democratic population is like us. It's not. [View all] MineralMan May 2019 OP

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #1

He's already had two shots. mobeau69 May 2019 #2

Well, he's taking a third shot, isn't he? MineralMan May 2019 #5

1st shot since his eight years as VP pandr32 May 2019 #62

Excellent point! cwydro May 2019 #197

Exactly pandr.. I like the way you put Cha May 2019 #204

Good one, Cha! pandr32 May 2019 #246

1987 was 32 years ago, and he was only 45. He has learned and accomplished a lot since then. George II May 2019 #13

32 years ago means nothing to the repubs. mobeau69 May 2019 #36

We want to win DownriverDem May 2019 #65

If he can't generate enthusiasm, how is it that he's so far ahead in the polls? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #68

For some, he seems to be the preference based on perceived electability marylandblue May 2019 #75

Everyone is making this too complicated... DemocracyMouse May 2019 #122

Biden-Harris duhneece May 2019 #131

Ah.. Aloha, duhneece! Cha May 2019 #205

Works for me Hekate May 2019 #231

He seems to be generating enthusiasm. MineralMan May 2019 #84

Many voters connect True Blue American May 2019 #111

And that's a very powerful influence. MineralMan May 2019 #113

For one, everybody in the world know who he is. pangaia May 2019 #168

That helps, but it doesn't necessarily generate enthusiasm. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #171

They know Bernie too, he ran a national campaign in '16, but it doesn't seem to be helping. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2019 #277

I'm with mobeau on this one lambchopp59 May 2019 #221

That's a shame. Jakes Progress May 2019 #230

Your personal offense aside, I choose to live here in the north bay. These are unmistakably lambchopp59 May 2019 #258

What personal offense. Jakes Progress May 2019 #267

"You need new friends". These are my neighbors, co-worker, and it's Sanders or "forget it" to them. lambchopp59 May 2019 #270

Are you going to vote for the Democratic nominee? Jakes Progress May 2019 #274

Yes lambchopp59 May 2019 #282

That is good to hear. Jakes Progress May 2019 #283

I'm with these "black 18 to 29 year old likely Democractic voters.. " Cha May 2019 #234

This polling is interesting Gothmog May 2019 #257

Here's to it continuing, Goth! Cha May 2019 #259

Well, I guess we really do make our own beds. BannonsLiver May 2019 #247

lol NYMinute May 2019 #44

Yes.. and right now smearing the leader is all too front and center!! Thekaspervote May 2019 #201

Nixon took three shots at it. LakeArenal May 2019 #46

Nixon was 2 out of 3. Hillary was 0 for 2 and isn't running now. mobeau69 May 2019 #59

Once more with feeling: HRC won. We had a treason problem going on. Hekate May 2019 #126

True that but unfortunately it won't be recorded that way in the history books mobeau69 May 2019 #146

If we don't deal with our little treason problem we won't win this time, either. Right? Hekate May 2019 #154

The "two shots" argument is irrelevant now. Biden's grown ideologically and gotten more experience emulatorloo May 2019 #53

Doesn't matter DownriverDem May 2019 #64

In the Age of President Pussygrabber do "gaffes" still mean what they used to ? Pluvious May 2019 #83

Biden's so-called gaffes have become something of a false meme, like Ford's alleged clumsiness, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #87

Very good point - reminds me of the false "Gore said he invented the Internet" meme Pluvious May 2019 #95

Sometimes the word "gaffe" is used euphemistically. mobeau69 May 2019 #98

Sometimes it's not. Cha May 2019 #207

And there goes the New York Times again, making my point. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #218

So did Reagan. Demsrule86 May 2019 #109

He went down in flames, as you put it, not me. Butterflylady May 2019 #144

Great point, Butterflylady.. "..went Cha May 2019 #203

The third time is a charm nvme May 2019 #182

He gets an unlimited number of shots. Politicub May 2019 #183

So did Reagan. So did Nixon. One of Biden's times was against Obama. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #191

Oh gawd.. "..2 shots.." That Cha May 2019 #202

Cha Hekate May 2019 #232

Aloha, Hekate.. Cha May 2019 #233

It's odd that we have to keep reminding folks about that. MineralMan May 2019 #272

It's like they weren't Cha May 2019 #275

That's not really news... brooklynite May 2019 #3

No, it's not news. Its my opinion. MineralMan May 2019 #4

Mineral Man, True Blue American May 2019 #10

Thank you. I agree. MineralMan May 2019 #20

I also think True Blue American May 2019 #22

No doubt he will, along with some Democrats who are close MineralMan May 2019 #27

Since I am True Blue American May 2019 #119

Yes, Joe will probably get a quite a few of those unhappy repugs to vote for him over trump. FM123 May 2019 #63

Ha! NurseJackie May 2019 #18

Thanks! MineralMan May 2019 #23

Ikr! Cha May 2019 #208

Apparently, it's only news if you post about a lunch companion. cwydro May 2019 #60

I know I've never had lunch with a presidential primary candidate. MineralMan May 2019 #85

... Yonnie3 May 2019 #86

Apropos of today's news, did I mention the dinner I had with Steve Bullock? brooklynite May 2019 #252

But it's well stated and well framed news. We do tend to forget here that most Dems are not like us. ancianita May 2019 #17

Reports from cocktail parties and cotillions aren't news either. BannonsLiver May 2019 #249

Name recognition... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2019 #6

Everything you said is true, except you left out one thing. marylandblue May 2019 #7

Anyone with his record in politics would have name recognition. MineralMan May 2019 #9

Yes, but it's important in assessing his poll numbers this early. marylandblue May 2019 #73

I had the same reaction, marylandblue Jarqui May 2019 #140

"He has the highest name recognition and familiarity of all the candidates." WeekiWater May 2019 #14

I'm not just talking about Sanders, who people know now and don't like marylandblue May 2019 #71

I do agree with your overall point. WeekiWater May 2019 #77

People are tuned in NYMinute May 2019 #45

" It is not about name recognition. People know Biden..." marylandblue May 2019 #72

Almost all Democrats know Biden, BS, Harris, Warren, Beto, Booker and Klobuchar. NYMinute May 2019 #133

See post 160 on why I added the word "familiarity." marylandblue May 2019 #161

By that definition NYMinute May 2019 #184

Yes, that's why Biden starts with an advantage nobody else has. marylandblue May 2019 #210

There are a few not so well known. cwydro May 2019 #200

So we're going with BS for Sanders while all the rest get last names? rgbecker May 2019 #248

Biden and Sanders have comparable name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #78

This isn't about Sanders. marylandblue May 2019 #79

you are the one who claimed that Biden is leading because of name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #100

I said "name recognition AND familiarity." marylandblue May 2019 #160

You are exactly right.. and BS is always on Cha May 2019 #212

The debates will be difficult for Joe. aikoaiko May 2019 #213

He absolutely shredded paul Ryan for the VP debate drray23 May 2019 #279

I would consider Castro as having WH experience. WeekiWater May 2019 #8

That's true, although HUD isn't all that visible, MineralMan May 2019 #12

Completely agree. WeekiWater May 2019 #19

Being HUD director is pretty narrow experience. MineralMan May 2019 #173

I consider the impact of HUD to be more expansive than you do. WeekiWater May 2019 #178

I think WH experience isn't much of a factor anyway. thesquanderer May 2019 #102

Just a little picky here.......... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #129

Right, I could have gone back further and added Kennedy beat Nixon (nt) thesquanderer May 2019 #143

That's true. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #147

I would imagine True Blue American May 2019 #16

I would be shocked to see republicans there. Shocked. WeekiWater May 2019 #21

Notice, I said True Blue American May 2019 #25

I see no indication he would have republicans. WeekiWater May 2019 #39

This is the worst selling point imaginable angrychair May 2019 #141

there are no moderate republicans.... getagrip_already May 2019 #29

Charlie Crist was a moderate Republican. WeekiWater May 2019 #42

Charlie is now a Democratic Congressman.:) True Blue American May 2019 #104

'Ya know............. MyOwnPeace May 2019 #132

I don't even like it when someone says they want "change." They'd have Doitnow May 2019 #196

I would feel safe with Joe Biden and that is his biggest draw. katmondoo May 2019 #11

I agree. Feeling safe is also very important. MineralMan May 2019 #15

Not a workable combination Boomer May 2019 #117

DU does not represent the demographics of the Democratic Party Gothmog May 2019 #24

No, it doesn't. More's the pity, perhaps, but MineralMan May 2019 #31

I'm extremely grateful that there is a huge progressive-Democrat demographic spread out along Magoo48 May 2019 #142

The entire point of the opening post in this thread is that MineralMan May 2019 #151

Surely, "the most important issues to many voters" Ghost Dog May 2019 #167

Not necessarily. MineralMan May 2019 #170

Yes, I agree with all your well-expressed points. Thanks MineralMan for all you do. Ghost Dog May 2019 #174

That is hugely important, to be sure. MineralMan May 2019 #176

+1000 I certainly do wish that more Dems could see that slow and steady wins the game Thekaspervote May 2019 #206

Well said. Good points. So much to consider, and yes, ousting Agent Orange is #1. Magoo48 May 2019 #240

Joe biden doesn't wag his finger at you like a grumpy uncle in a crumpled suit..... getagrip_already May 2019 #26

Bernie's hand gestures while speaking are always distracting MineralMan May 2019 #49

Beto comes to mind immediately drray23 May 2019 #280

I haven't really watched him much, MineralMan May 2019 #281

Not to mention he is the only candidate who has gravitas on the Kahuna7 May 2019 #28

Yes. For those who think about international relations, MineralMan May 2019 #32

Right now Foreign Policy Mr.Bill May 2019 #40

Congrats to you, Mr. Bill.......... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #139

Yes The world likes Joe. LakeArenal May 2019 #47

"relationships with our allies need to be repaired and restored" Ghost Dog May 2019 #169

Joe is a strong candidate but to anoint him as our only hope this early is no less than ridiculous mtnsnake May 2019 #30

I did not do that. I'm commenting on his early lead in primary polling. MineralMan May 2019 #38

He did well debating Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin one-on-one, yes. Demit May 2019 #67

Do you think he'll do poorly? I don't. MineralMan May 2019 #82

I don't make predictions. But I do recognize that there are different variables to consider. Demit May 2019 #101

Sharp-minded debaters don't always come across well to voters. Biden's warmth, self-confidence, emmaverybo May 2019 #162

I watched two of his rallies, in Pittsburgh and in Iowa. They were friendly crowds, and Demit May 2019 #180

It is not name recognition. Demsrule86 May 2019 #115

I know.. That implies that Cha May 2019 #220

Agreed. MBS May 2019 #163

You're right. Now let the bashing begin!! oldsoftie May 2019 #33

Perhaps. I don't know. MineralMan May 2019 #51

I do like Biden for all the reasons you listed. Bluepinky May 2019 #34

If it was, Kucinich would have been president in 2004 Renew Deal May 2019 #35

That was before I first came to DU. MineralMan May 2019 #43

I think it's a mistake to lump minorities in your sweeping statement. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #37

Oddly enough, I did not mention minorities at all in my post. MineralMan May 2019 #52

Progressive ideals and minority objectives are locked in step. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #56

And most of those Democrats... MicaelS May 2019 #41

I give a damn about Anita Hill, but that was a long time ago. MineralMan May 2019 #54

He's safe, he's known, and he's a comfortable entity associated with Obama. TruckFump May 2019 #48

This post is DU thinking. pdsimdars May 2019 #50

".. DU thinking.."? What you do Cha May 2019 #211

I see this post has nearly 9500 views and rapidly rising Ghost Dog May 2019 #235

Well, there you go. Du thinking. pdsimdars May 2019 #241

K&R DashOneBravo May 2019 #55

He Wouldn't Be My 1st Choice, But a Biden/Harris Ticket Would Be Unbeatable! DoctorJoJo May 2019 #57

I agree. That would be an excellent ticket! MineralMan May 2019 #58

Biden is my first choice DownriverDem May 2019 #66

The only way Biden makes sense infullview May 2019 #61

Could you consider editing your title, please? TygrBright May 2019 #69

Well said. ananda May 2019 #70

well, in the end, it all depends what percentage actually votes, & for the 60% who didn't vote yaesu May 2019 #74

I find one big thing wrong with this post: sarabelle May 2019 #76

The current Biden lead is actually due to: Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #80

Sanders and Biden are both at nearly 100% name recognition. That hasn't helped Sanders. highplainsdem May 2019 #93

Your post is the most realistic view of the way the future is shaping up mtnsnake May 2019 #97

"Darling plan from the left"? Biden is great AllyCat May 2019 #81

In order to get the change you want, you have to have voter support. Demsrule86 May 2019 #127

By doing more of the same ? AllyCat May 2019 #227

There you go again, saidsimplesimon May 2019 #88

Predictable, eh? Thanks! MineralMan May 2019 #90

It's difficult for me saidsimplesimon May 2019 #96

Biden is in many ways a less impressive version of Hillary Clinton BeyondGeography May 2019 #89

Well, the fact that there are so many Democrats in the primary race MineralMan May 2019 #105

Are you saying it cannot be "extinction emergency"; Ghost Dog May 2019 #172

I wonder if you understand how few people even know what MineralMan May 2019 #175

Interesting mtnsnake May 2019 #118

almost everyone running is a less impressive version of HRC..I'm thinking Mayor Pete Fresh_Start May 2019 #217

By "version," I mean generation and political disposition BeyondGeography May 2019 #226

I know two devout Trumpies who said they'd vote for Biden. JohnnyRingo May 2019 #91

That's a good sign, for sure. MineralMan May 2019 #108

So, they're less Cha May 2019 #216

What goes on here isn't going to have any measureable impact in the real world. Kaleva May 2019 #92

K&R highplainsdem May 2019 #94

KR NT ProudProgressiveNow May 2019 #99

I am not surprised that Biden has a large lead and I am happy with this lead Gothmog May 2019 #103

Three more electability factors to consider MBS May 2019 #106

"Since the Trumpistas and Republicans will do everything possible to subvert the election..." Ghost Dog May 2019 #236

completely agree. n/t MBS May 2019 #242

My Facebook feed is already being flooded with "handsy Joe gropes women" memes. redgreenandblue May 2019 #107

And my Facebook feed has none of that. MineralMan May 2019 #112

This 15-minute TED talk will explain some of that Ghost Dog May 2019 #237

I have none of that. Demsrule86 May 2019 #128

the disgusting parody website is STILL number one on Google search returns Celerity May 2019 #159

There is none of that on my FB.. Cha May 2019 #222

Sounde like you have creepy FB friends LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #269

Great points. llmart May 2019 #110

I didn't see Hillary Clinton being intimidated. Demit May 2019 #145

I heard Hillary talk about this in one of her interviews. llmart May 2019 #148

Sure, I read that as well. But it didn't sound like she was saying she felt intimidated. Demit May 2019 #157

My take is that once the debates start someone is going to emerge out of the pack of Democrats and saljr1 May 2019 #114

Yes, and it could very well be Joe Biden who emerges. MineralMan May 2019 #116

More that a few think that person will be Warren, Buttigieg, or Harris mtnsnake May 2019 #124

Biden is a great debater and there are 20+ candidates... Demsrule86 May 2019 #130

Seems more like wishful thinking to me. BannonsLiver May 2019 #250

Sound reasoning. You make it sound like the average Dem in this country has good sense... Hekate May 2019 #120

Yeah, well, maybe there's some sort of collective intelligence out there, MineralMan May 2019 #123

Perhaps the biggest way DU is not like the general Dem population... thesquanderer May 2019 #121

I like your use of the word "like." MineralMan May 2019 #125

And where does this lead us with regard to our female candidates? CTyankee May 2019 #165

And that would add to the evidence that at the moment its about name recognition. nt pnwmom May 2019 #136

Not entirely. From the same poll... thesquanderer May 2019 #156

Thanks for the info at your Morning Consult link Ghost Dog May 2019 #238

This jumped out as so true... Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #134

It seems that way to me, too. MineralMan May 2019 #137

It is time we are honest with ourselves... c-ville rook May 2019 #135

It is not 1948 any longer. MineralMan May 2019 #138

As far as running a third term and doing better Doreen May 2019 #149

While I will vote for whomever the Dem candidate is angrychair May 2019 #150

+1 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #153

Preach. He was also President Obama's wingman which makes him underthematrix May 2019 #152

Joe Biden has supported plenty of non-progressive legislation. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #155

A lot of people tend to focus on the progressive side rather than searching for purity. BannonsLiver May 2019 #251

With so many other options, I look at the whole picture. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #256

So has Bernie ...most long term senators have... called compromise. Demsrule86 May 2019 #271

This post is about Joe Biden and a claim made about him. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #273

The Amen Choir is right here!! Peacetrain May 2019 #158

But isn't "slow and steady progress" just too slow, Ghost Dog May 2019 #164

Before we can do anything, we have to undo what Trump has done. MineralMan May 2019 #185

Yeah. How to move such a behemoth... Ghost Dog May 2019 #190

Thank you thank you! redstatebluegirl May 2019 #166

Thanks MineralMan get the red out May 2019 #177

Great list of domestic skill sets. For me, I would also add foreign affairs experience plus MFGsunny May 2019 #179

Well, Biden has some pretty good chops in that area, too. MineralMan May 2019 #186

Very true I think srobertss May 2019 #181

You are correct about your Subject Line Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #187

Name recognition is a canard. TwilightZone May 2019 #188

No...Biden is the only one with widespread name recognition. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #193

Thank you for posting this Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #199

data says Biden and Sanders are virtually tied at name recognition Fresh_Start May 2019 #219

Nixon isn't remembered as VP. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #224

Exactly.. BS has made sure he has name Cha May 2019 #225

Biden will do well in the swing states - especially Pennsylvania and Michigan FakeNoose May 2019 #189

Thank You For Writing This About Biden Indykatie May 2019 #192

Funny thing is that everyone thinks they're part of the "base." MineralMan May 2019 #194

Many thanks to everyone who replied in this thread. MineralMan May 2019 #195

I've had my differences with you, but you the man! That was a good post. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #209

That's very kind of you to say. MineralMan May 2019 #214

I have family proud patriot May 2019 #198

All you can do is try. MineralMan May 2019 #215

It's called sour grapes. BannonsLiver May 2019 #253

I like "he's not a leftist, he's a democrat." demosincebirth May 2019 #223

Practical Cary May 2019 #228

Using the term ''left" is actually a pretty broad statement. What's so bad about the ''left''? YOHABLO May 2019 #229

Joe Biden has all the media attention. Chemisse May 2019 #239

Correct. Real Democrats want Trump out. Number one priority. McCamy Taylor May 2019 #243

It is ridiculous to say that most DUers aren't even thinking about voting dumpster out. debsy May 2019 #244

"Voting for Joe Biden is not voting for someone who represents our interests." MineralMan May 2019 #245

It'll probably be awkward for you if Harris ends up as his running mate. BannonsLiver May 2019 #254

K&R! Thank you, MM! R B Garr May 2019 #255

My pleasure! MineralMan May 2019 #260

Joe Biden's early state polling looks more like those of past winners than losers Gothmog May 2019 #261

I think a lot of voters are saying, "OK. Joe Biden. He's my choice." MineralMan May 2019 #262

Biden can beat trump-if the choice is between Woke and winning, I go with winning Gothmog May 2019 #263

I'm intrigued by O'Rourke, but Biden, Harris, Warren, Booker are all terrific. VOX May 2019 #264

I'm hopeful we all will back our nominee and work to help elect him or her. MineralMan May 2019 #265

Absolutely and without question. VOX May 2019 #266

Agree 100% n/t OhioChick May 2019 #268

73% of Democratic respondents said Biden's experience makes them more likely to back him Gothmog May 2019 #276

Good sign. MineralMan May 2019 #278

Everyone I know that is not involved like we are marlakay May 2019 #284