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Celerity

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40. Do you oppose Biden's plan for 4 years free public university tuition as well?
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:51 PM
May 2019

Last edited Thu May 30, 2019, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

The cost of uni has just exploded the last 20 years or so. Especially out of state tuition at public schools, but even instate is still crazy high (see below).

some examples

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/use-the-data

these are PER YEAR costs

Alaska — University of Alaska, Anchorage
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $37,304

Michigan — University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $59,784

Delaware — University of Delaware
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $46,618

Arizona — University of Arizona
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $50,367

North Dakota — North Dakota State University
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $32,227

Hawaii — University of Hawaii at Manoa
Tuition, room, board, and other costs, 2016-17: $50,645


The AVERAGE cost for 4 years IN-STATE PUBLIC tuition, fees and room/board has now passed 100,000 USD. In the top 5 most expensive states (NH, VT, PA, NJ, and IL) it is already over 125,000 USD.

That is all just for undergrad. And that is public schools. The top private schools are over 300,000 USD for 4 years. Granted, scholarships, grants, etc can lower a lot of those, but still it is outrageously expensive.


When Biden graduated university, the average cost in the US for public tuition and was 256 USD per year. For the 1990-91 school year, the national average for tuition and fees at a four year public university were still only 1888 USD.

It is madness what is going on. We are being robbed blind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Or pull in people who might otherwise not vote. zipplewrath May 2019 #1
I think she has broad appeal. PassingFair May 2019 #2
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 May 2019 #3
She has a lot of winning issues. HopeAgain May 2019 #4
I used to hear that school marm garbage about Hillary, too Ohiogal May 2019 #27
It will be used as a weapon against "socialist" policies that Trump Doodley May 2019 #5
What about the Socialist policy of paying farmers billions watoos May 2019 #7
Touche' Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #10
Trump supporters don't care when he does something Doodley May 2019 #21
so will Biden's call for free university tuition Celerity May 2019 #26
I support the general idea, but I think calling it 'free' is a stupid framing ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #53
It is only no tuition at public universities, not private Celerity May 2019 #55
Well, I'm 72, so my debt is long gone patphil May 2019 #6
can't remember where - just saw a news story about people that age STILL with student debt EveHammond13 May 2019 #11
Seniors owe billions in student loan debt: "This will follow me to the grave" Celerity May 2019 #28
yes EveHammond13 May 2019 #50
We worked hard and put two children through college Pobeka May 2019 #8
what if one of your kids wants to marry someone who has massive student debt EveHammond13 May 2019 #12
Yes, but that's not relevant to the question of fairness n/t Pobeka May 2019 #23
so because that student had a single working-class mom and had to take out loans EveHammond13 May 2019 #25
You are misreading my point Pobeka May 2019 #30
YOU & many others did the sensible things in this situation. LenaBaby61 May 2019 #48
A fair complaint lostnfound May 2019 #13
Ugh. kimmylavin May 2019 #15
+1000. nt ecstatic May 2019 #17
Agree nt Quixote1818 May 2019 #19
I think being progressive also includes a realization/application of fairness. Pobeka May 2019 #22
Not only that, but the poster wants the kids to suffer Mariana May 2019 #45
So fuck everybody who didn't have parents like you then, right? Maru Kitteh May 2019 #18
Right?! My parents didn't help me with college at all, and my sister-in-law is a teacher who has Luciferous May 2019 #44
That's exactly what the poster seems to be saying. Mariana May 2019 #46
Does that mean you wouldn't vote for Warren if she's the nominee? bigbrother05 May 2019 #33
NO WAY. I'll vote for the Dem nominee, regardless of who it is!!! Pobeka May 2019 #35
meh Celerity May 2019 #34
College affordability is a huge problem. Pobeka May 2019 #36
Do you oppose Biden's plan for 4 years free public university tuition as well? Celerity May 2019 #40
I haven't seen the details of his plan, so I can't answer. Pobeka May 2019 #41
inflation-adjusted tuition and fees have increased 600% roughly since 1965 Celerity May 2019 #43
The catch is... Blue_playwright May 2019 #37
I agree 100% n/t Pobeka May 2019 #38
I don't trust people like your buddy to vote RhodeIslandOne May 2019 #9
Good point. Spent last weekend with a house Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #14
Hell, I was putting lump sum payments on my student loans... ecstatic May 2019 #16
It's not the original debt, but interest and fees and added costs More_Cowbell May 2019 #20
we must give relief to students who were victims of predatory lenders. period. EveHammond13 May 2019 #24
Aaaannnnddd right on cue not fooled May 2019 #31
My right wing sibling was aghast Ohiogal May 2019 #29
Typical selfish right wing mindset Gregory Peccary May 2019 #32
They're oblivious to the scourge of predatory lending. VOX May 2019 #39
Older Americans are supporting kids More_Cowbell May 2019 #54
Curious, what was his degree in? cwydro May 2019 #42
ugh Skittles May 2019 #47
Nor could I OhioChick May 2019 #52
Student debt was a big winning issue for Beto on Texas college campuses. dalton99a May 2019 #49
And what of those who have paid debt off already? And can this be done AND the forgiveness emmaverybo May 2019 #51
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