Democratic Primaries

Hortensis

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49. :) I imagine somewhat similar to Obama's DC if

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:11 AM

May 2019

we didn't get control of congress with any Democratic candidate. If we held the house there would be some significant differences, but McConnell still promises scorched earth from the senate if they hold it.

But NO Democratic candidate with a chance of winning would be so insanely incompetent, or so completely unprincipled, as to gratify the demands of this OP. The president must serve all Americans.

Sanders is not among them, but even his presidency would be strongly formed by the realities of its context, and cooperating with Republicans, even occasionally against the Democratic caucus, is not exactly unusual for him. I'm guessing the author would see Elizabeth Warren as far less likely to try to work with Republicans than Biden, but if so that'd be out of pure ignorance of her history in congress and misunderstanding of what it takes to be effective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I can not believe what I'm reading on this board right now in regards to Joe... [View all] TCJ70 May 2019 OP

"My Republican friends" dalton99a May 2019 #1

Call me silly but I thought a President was a President of all of America leftofcool May 2019 #2

Reaching out is one thing... TCJ70 May 2019 #5

And primaries are not when you want to appease or normalize Republicans dalton99a May 2019 #6

Sure it is. You call for division and Hortensis May 2019 #33

"Call for division"? No. A division already exists. A response appropriate for the times... TCJ70 May 2019 #37

You again made my point. Please stop. Hortensis May 2019 #39

If the parties work together to pass some legislation now, presumably they still will. Demit May 2019 #43

:) I imagine somewhat similar to Obama's DC if Hortensis May 2019 #49

But Biden's claim is that Republicans will have an epiphany, and be more cooperative, once he is Demit May 2019 #58

Come on, Demit. He's far from an idiot. Take it in context. Hortensis May 2019 #63

I don't know what context I'm supposed to take "Republicans will have an epiphany" in. Demit May 2019 #64

Just looked and realized you're more than a little Hortensis May 2019 #65

Because at what point you realize you need to be realistic, to wake up to the truth? Perseus May 2019 #18

I don't think he's dumb enough to believe that, ergo I'm not naive enough to think he means it mr_lebowski May 2019 #3

If you don't think he means it, what makes you think GOP voters will? Demit May 2019 #44

Some GOP voters will believe it and some won't so he will get votes Skya Rhen May 2019 #47

GOP voters aren't voters in the Democratic primaries. Biden has to win those first. Demit May 2019 #50

I don't think Biden is less aware of any of this than we are... First Speaker May 2019 #4

So we're going back to reaching across the aisle to find consensus? jalan48 May 2019 #7

Joe is an experienced, seasoned politician - he is playing chess and I defer to him... Skya Rhen May 2019 #8

You're right. He is experienced... TCJ70 May 2019 #9

Because Obama is black - little Joe could have done to change the Repubs bigotry... Skya Rhen May 2019 #11

Are you saying they would have voted for the ACA if Obama had been white? N/t TCJ70 May 2019 #12

Perhaps. Its framework was supported by the GOP's Heritage Foundation and when a black man Skya Rhen May 2019 #15

It was indeed ... originally emerged from the GOP Bowels, and basically the same as RomneyCare ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #22

McConnell is already calling him a socialist BeyondGeography May 2019 #13

Unfortunately for McConnell, the polls show otherwise. The voters are pulling for a moderate and he Skya Rhen May 2019 #16

Admittedly GOP are running a racket but I think they were more afraid applegrove May 2019 #10

Reaching across the aisle and LibDemAlways May 2019 #14

If it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen - nothing in life is guaranteed. We all know that... Skya Rhen May 2019 #17

We all have the right to say what we think, regardless of what happens More_Cowbell May 2019 #21

ANYONE here who says Biden's naive or ridiculous forgets that he had SIGNED co-sponsored legislation ancianita May 2019 #19

While I concur with your message about BlueMTexpat May 2019 #24

I was foregrounding whichever word applies in the rules. I consider this talk "undermining." ancianita May 2019 #51

If you feel there is something seriously wrong with my post... TCJ70 May 2019 #34

Apparently, you do. You're not the only poster here who needs reminding. ancianita May 2019 #52

I see you have Inslee as your preferred candidate... TCJ70 May 2019 #56

I wrote lengthy descriptions of both Inslee's executive and Biden's legislative work previously. ancianita May 2019 #70

Your second TOS point concerns general election candidates, not primary candidates. Demit May 2019 #41

I think "undermining" is one of the words in the rule. "Generally" isn't at issue here. It's ancianita May 2019 #53

"Undermining," in the second rule you quote, is clearly referring to the general election. Demit May 2019 #60

Well you could zipplewrath May 2019 #77

Go ahead. List the rest that are unpopular here. ancianita May 2019 #85

It's a message that resonates with he broader electorate... comradebillyboy May 2019 #20

Agreed ... I'd be disturbed if I thought he honestly believes the GOP will 'work with him' mr_lebowski May 2019 #23

I cannot believe you wrote this post. An informative post about your preferred candidate would be emulatorloo May 2019 #25

+1000 RelativelyJones May 2019 #26

Like you, I'm undecided. I don't have a preferred candidate yet... TCJ70 May 2019 #29

Well pick out a candidate you might support and write something positive then emulatorloo May 2019 #88

I appreciate the OP. aikoaiko May 2019 #67

You, in my opinion, are skipping over one important fact underpants May 2019 #27

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #28

I am concerned... TCJ70 May 2019 #31

I'm so damned tired of the Biden attacks. Who do you think you are convincing? hlthe2b May 2019 #30

Hello, fellow undecided. TCJ70 May 2019 #32

Republican Governors have natural disasters Deb May 2019 #35

What are you talking about? Who's talking about natural disaster response? n/t TCJ70 May 2019 #36

IMO he is trying to appeal to those GOP voters who want someone other than Trump. Raven123 May 2019 #38

I can't believe after him being in the Obama administration he thinks the problem is Trump and not Autumn May 2019 #40

He had a front row view of what I, at the time, considered the worst of their descent into... TCJ70 May 2019 #57

Having fun with all the "bad ass" memes being made about him? I just want to know why Autumn May 2019 #59

And this is why VP Joe Biden will win this thing.. Peacetrain May 2019 #42

He's currently sitting at 91% approval among Republicans in the latest Gallup polls... TCJ70 May 2019 #45

We get 9 % if Republicans and we walk away with this thing!! Peacetrain May 2019 #46

I think this theme was a bad choice for Biden. He should have stopped with "I'll work across... LAS14 May 2019 #48

days of old Crepuscular May 2019 #54

"when politics was largely conducted as a private gentleman's club" perfectly encapsulates Demit May 2019 #62

We need a candidate that can win, first, and Joe is the man... Skya Rhen May 2019 #66

we shall see Crepuscular May 2019 #79

I would think what should immediately disqualify a candidate around here, is a candidate that still_one May 2019 #55

Everyone gets a chance at redemption with the new election cycle. aikoaiko May 2019 #68

Grey has absolutely no remose for voting for Jill Stein. She is proud of it. My response was still_one May 2019 #71

...which greatly contributed to Trump's win which then led to longterm, harmful right wing policies Skya Rhen May 2019 #69

Grey is proud of it, and has no remorse, and has said so in her twitter feeds. At least she is still_one May 2019 #72

LOL!! peggysue2 May 2019 #61

... NYMinute May 2019 #73

He said it yesterday... TCJ70 May 2019 #74

You are not going to sway a single Biden supporter NYMinute May 2019 #75

"I can't really respond to to defend this ridiculous thing Biden said... TCJ70 May 2019 #76

New Quinnipiac poll, Pennsylvania: Biden 39%, Sanders 13%, Harris 8%, Warren 8% Skya Rhen May 2019 #80

What in the world does this have to do with Biden thinking his mere presence... TCJ70 May 2019 #81

Joe is a very gracious man which is why he is so beloved. Why would you misstate Skya Rhen May 2019 #82

Who would have thought that "we can work together" would be such a caustic sentiment? LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #86

"We can work together" isn't caustic if the people you're working have shown to work in good faith TCJ70 May 2019 #92

TCJ70 - I am still waiting for you to correct the false statements that you attributed to Joe... Skya Rhen May 2019 #93

You are the one bringing up Bernie here and taking his name in vain. earthshine May 2019 #78

Cool story bro NYMinute May 2019 #83

If paeans to bipartisanship help Scranton Joe get elected so be it. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #84

Obviously, you have nothing of value to say. nt earthshine May 2019 #87

You are right on track Autumn May 2019 #96

A twitter thread that crossed my timeline today: Saviolo May 2019 #89

That's my question, as well. This "normalcy" talk... TCJ70 May 2019 #90

You mean the polls? ucrdem May 2019 #91

Pretty sure Joe hasn't forgotten how the repubs treated Obama... cynatnite May 2019 #94

Exactly right LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #95