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In reply to the discussion: Gallup--Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President [View all]Gothmog
(180,562 posts)40. The GOP has large oppo file and would use this and other material if sanders was nominee
Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long gameattacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of colorfor example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for herClinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
trump would have a great deal of fun using this video and other oppo on sanders.
I am so glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle because if sanders was the nominee, trump would win 45 states
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Gallup--Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President [View all]
Gothmog
May 2019
OP
Have you been to Europe? He is still to the right of some socialist parties in most countries there
Tiggeroshii
May 2019
#6
Sanders never got more than about a quarter of a million votes in any of his elections.
George II
May 2019
#46
I agree. The problem is in our politics if you're explaining you're losing.
BannonsLiver
Jun 2019
#82
"..too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word 'socialism"..
Cha
May 2019
#65
Considering you probably don't believe anything else he says, why start now?
Tiggeroshii
Jun 2019
#79
The GOP has large oppo file and would use this and other material if sanders was nominee
Gothmog
May 2019
#40
Bernie will never win a majority through the regular delegates -- he topped out last time
pnwmom
May 2019
#8
Democratic Socialist: a socialist who uses the Democratic Party's infrastructure in order to
Skya Rhen
May 2019
#38
"from each according to his abilities to each according to his polling numbers"
brooklynite
May 2019
#41
Bernie will be painted as the old style socialist with a gold sickle and hammer on his forehead...
cynatnite
May 2019
#49
It would be much higher once the GOP got finished with Bernie in a general election
BannonsLiver
May 2019
#51
Fewer than half of those eligible voted for Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter...
PETRUS
May 2019
#63
Washington Post-Sanders wants Americans to buy into socialism. He's got some convincing to do
Gothmog
Jun 2019
#72
You mean Bernie's primary rivals are fascists? I didn't know BS was our only choice. NT
emmaverybo
Jun 2019
#81
FDR was sometimes pegged as a Socialist, yet he won 4 terms as President. He was also said by some
mtnsnake
Jun 2019
#89
We Dems are way too nice. We should be calling Trump a Fascist way more often than we do
mtnsnake
Jun 2019
#104