Democratic Primaries

pnwmom

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141. We haven't had a single debate yet, much less a primary.

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:44 PM

May 2019

Most of the popularity of the top two is due to name recognition. Bernie was in the last primary, and Joe was the last V.P.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Tiggeroshii May 2019 OP

He has frequently admitted to being a socialist Jose Garcia May 2019 #1

Wrong Tiggeroshii May 2019 #3

"I am a sociallist" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #12

And... BOOM!! NurseJackie May 2019 #15

Lol ! OnDoutside May 2019 #137

On camera, yet. sheshe2 May 2019 #17

And on a non-stop loop in every GOP ad! NurseJackie May 2019 #20

Oh my! sheshe2 May 2019 #34

"I Am A Socialist" ... the animated gif! (Endless loop!) NurseJackie May 2019 #44

And I believe him. sheshe2 May 2019 #79

I believe him. I believe him. I believe him. I believe him. I believe him. trueblue2007 May 2019 #133

This here. Chin music May 2019 #61

If you think the gop isn't salivating over this video... Kahuna7 May 2019 #76

Aloha, Kahuna. sheshe2 May 2019 #153

Aloha to you, my Dear.... Kahuna7 May 2019 #158

Someone has a bone to pick with him. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #47

Straight from the horse's mouth. MineralMan May 2019 #60

It's unfair to refer to him as a horse, as he doesn't fully embrace equine policies LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #70

But he's promised that horses will be an integral part Hortensis May 2019 #159

Ahahahahaha!!!!! BannonsLiver May 2019 #78

"I am a socialist; of course I am a socialist" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #25

I'm sorry. This isn't my horse race and marybourg May 2019 #69

Yep yep yep. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #89

He's a fair market capitalist, which is what he is... Dennis Donovan May 2019 #4

Nonsense. oldsoftie May 2019 #52

Why is this nonsense? Dennis Donovan May 2019 #57

Russian trolls? Huh? everyone repeating Sanders own words is a troll? oldsoftie May 2019 #71

Who are you calling a Russian troll on this thread? sheshe2 May 2019 #154

Then why does he call himself a socialist? Jose Garcia May 2019 #63

Because he defines it differently than you do. earthshine May 2019 #85

The OP didn't make that distinction. She just said "Calling Bernie a socialist is a RW talking pt." Honeycombe8 May 2019 #93

Kick and Rec Dennis Donovan May 2019 #2

Thank you :) Tiggeroshii May 2019 #5

Some keep fighting the last primary. Dennis Donovan May 2019 #7

Like 99% of the electorate... brooklynite May 2019 #48

Link to stats Dennis Donovan May 2019 #51

Like DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #101

Has he evolved? George II May 2019 #19

Of course, that is, if you don't enter it from a pre-conceived notion. Dennis Donovan May 2019 #33

Does Prof. West know this? Gothmog May 2019 #6

So because more people repeat a falsehood, it suddenly makes it true? Tiggeroshii May 2019 #8

Prof West is a sanders surrogate and supporter Gothmog May 2019 #9

And I'm sure Sanders has corrected him on this Tiggeroshii May 2019 #11

Is there a link to Sanders stating mcar May 2019 #143

So, you're saying he's an incompetent Socialist? brooklynite May 2019 #49

... brer cat May 2019 #96

Calling Benie Sanders a sociallist is a Bernie Sanders talking point LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #10

Evidence that his policies are actually socialist? I'll wait. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #13

Sanders has called himself a socialist numerous times LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #22

And are his policies actually socialist? Tiggeroshii May 2019 #24

Give it up; you've been caught in a falsehood. Obfuscating won't help you. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #27

You have nothing to support the idea his policies are socialist. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #28

Just his own words, out of his own mouth. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #30

Exactly onetexan May 2019 #55

And, unfortunately, this arrangement opens up the Dem Party to be painted with the same brush... Skya Rhen May 2019 #129

OMG. That's hysterical!!! Chin music May 2019 #64

He calls himself a socialist mcar May 2019 #144

It would be so much better if he were a Democrat... SouthernProgressive May 2019 #14

Vermont recently elected a republican governor Tiggeroshii May 2019 #16

It hasn't hurt him with the populace of Vermont. I agree with that. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #23

Vermont's demographics match flyover country. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #26

"Every indication shows "socialist" will not hurt him in a general election." SouthernProgressive May 2019 #29

Not sure you know vermont was a conservative state and still has a repug gov Tiggeroshii May 2019 #99

"and still has a repug gov" SouthernProgressive May 2019 #120

Fact is they are a purple state who elect a "socialist" regularly Tiggeroshii May 2019 #121

You make an argument, it falls flat, and then you make another one. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #122

No evidence suggests he is actually socialist Tiggeroshii May 2019 #123

I haven't smeared any Democrat. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #124

K Tiggeroshii May 2019 #125

"I'll take that into consideration." SouthernProgressive May 2019 #127

... Tiggeroshii May 2019 #128

Here you go. TwilightZone May 2019 #140

This is a strawman folks keep grasping Tiggeroshii May 2019 #151

They are in no sense "purple" for National office FBaggins May 2019 #149

Demographics are important. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #155

Vermont is a conservative state? mcar May 2019 #145

No, there are lot more NY ex-pats there like Bernie, than in the flyover states. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #131

Vermont is its own unique little place. What works there won't work everywhere. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #130

We will see Tiggeroshii May 2019 #135

We haven't had a single debate yet, much less a primary. pnwmom May 2019 #141

Agreed Tiggeroshii May 2019 #142

Exactly DownriverDem May 2019 #18

so how is calling him something he calls himself a smear? pretzel logic nt msongs May 2019 #21

Next we'll be told that calling him "Bernie" is a right-wing talking point LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #32

LMFO The Mouth May 2019 #73

Wait until they find out that some people call him by his initials. NurseJackie May 2019 #161

Calling him something that isnt accurate, actually Tiggeroshii May 2019 #37

He calls himself a socialist; if he isn't one, is he lying, or an idiot? LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #43

There is a third option. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #132

So, both? LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #134

So he smears himself? qazplm135 May 2019 #58

I wonder what Bernie has to say... NurseJackie May 2019 #68

agreed. NO LABELS except that of President! samnsara May 2019 #31

So Bernie smears himself?... SidDithers May 2019 #35

Oy... Dennis Donovan May 2019 #41

And why is socialist a pejorative? Buzz cook May 2019 #36

Because everywhere actual total socialism is tried, it fails miserably. oldsoftie May 2019 #56

If only he didn't use the term, himself. Laelth May 2019 #38

The GOP had a large oppo file on sanders and there are more stories like this Gothmog May 2019 #39

Clearly DownriverDem May 2019 #54

Bernie proudly refers to himself as a socialist so why would anyone get defensive Skya Rhen May 2019 #40

The OP's point seeems to be, "he calls himself one, but he's not very good at it, so LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #42

I believe you've nailed it. That's what I was thinking too. NurseJackie May 2019 #45

So, when he say's "I'm a socialist, we should say he's not. When he says "I'm not a Democrat", LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #46

So it's fine when he used it as a selling point, namahage May 2019 #50

Anyone who is not a RWNJ is a socialist... Thomas Hurt May 2019 #53

Sorry, not in the slightest true. Maybe find out what it is. Hortensis May 2019 #59

I'm pretty sure that's wasn't Thomas Hurt's point LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #66

I see your point. Hortensis May 2019 #95

Btw, you made me actually read this Hortensis May 2019 #160

So, since Bernie himself has called himself a socialist, MineralMan May 2019 #62

Geroge Orwell would be shaking his head LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #65

Who? LOL! MineralMan May 2019 #67

I know. It's confusing. 2+25 ? If you say it often enough, you'll believe it? nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #92

So we all know he calls himself a "Democratic Socialist" honest.abe May 2019 #72

Why I'm Not a Socialist NurseJackie May 2019 #80

KFC is Not Chicken crazytown May 2019 #74

LOL! NurseJackie May 2019 #81

He says he is. So I'll just take his word for it. Remember.. Kahuna7 May 2019 #75

That's what he calls himself so.... BannonsLiver May 2019 #77

Vermont, made up of largely conservative white men who elected a republican recently Tiggeroshii May 2019 #84

Yeah, in your world I'm sure that translates to everywhere else. BannonsLiver May 2019 #87

So, to conservative white male republicans "democratic socailist" is better than "socialist"? LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #88

That was my thought as well. BannonsLiver May 2019 #90

The embarrassment is clearly not knowing the difference and priding yourself of the ignorance Tiggeroshii May 2019 #97

If you want to keep this going, be my guest; we're all having a good laugh with it at this point LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #98

As am i Tiggeroshii May 2019 #100

Sanders: "No, I am not a capitalist" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #102

Labels are meaningless. Still waiting on policy evidence Tiggeroshii May 2019 #104

No need, since you've allready called Bernie a liar LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #106

Still needed Tiggeroshii May 2019 #107

No, I'm willing to concede he's a liar; you've convinced me LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #109

Thanks for conceding he is not a socialist Tiggeroshii May 2019 #110

Oh, no, he still calls himself a socialist, you just showed that he's lying because he sucks at it LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #111

Still cant provide evidence of it. so you admit. Thanks! Tiggeroshii May 2019 #113

Then why does he call himself a Democratic Socialist? DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #115

Because he's lying; Tiggeroshii said so LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #116

So he isnt actually a socialist because he lied about it? Tiggeroshii May 2019 #118

This has gone in an interesting direction mcar May 2019 #147

It started off through the looking glass, and made a right turn at Albuquerque LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #148

And the carrot festival therein mcar May 2019 #150

He can call himself whatever he wants...it will stick and he'll be un-electable... cynatnite May 2019 #82

From an article published in 2015... revmclaren May 2019 #83

"And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives Cha May 2019 #86

... NYMinute May 2019 #91

This is Joe McCarthy in reverse LibFarmer May 2019 #94

Nope, Bernie didn't want to be a democrat, he wanted to a socialist of some form Fresh_Start May 2019 #103

Social Democracy/ Democratic Socialism DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #112

He calls himself a democratic socialist. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #105

Yeah, but Tiggeroshii says he's lying about it LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #114

This is pure sophistry. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #117

Oh, I know, but there's no point in trying to apply logic to this nonsense LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #119

Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed Gothmog May 2019 #108

I wish Bernie's supporters would just own the term socialist. Politicub May 2019 #126

He says he is a socialist. Is he using right wing talking points on himself? Eko May 2019 #136

Would Millionaire Socialist be more current ? I'm more of a Champagne Socialist myself.... OnDoutside May 2019 #138

I'm a Kobe beef socialist myself BannonsLiver May 2019 #146

That's on my bucket list !!!! OnDoutside May 2019 #156

He's been calling himself a socialist for decades. TwilightZone May 2019 #139

You might want to let Bernie in on this bit of info Maru Kitteh May 2019 #152

Sanders himself really wishes his followers Hortensis May 2019 #157

Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President Gothmog Jun 2019 #162