Democratic Primaries

InAbLuEsTaTe

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50. Yup, I hear ya HBS...it's what I call the "Bernie Standard," which, by definition...

Mon May 20, 2019, 03:09 PM

May 2019

doesn't apply to any other candidate BUT Bernie. I've tried several times to see if, as a Democratic community, we could hash out some UNIFORM standards for discussing ALL candidates regarding current issues, past positions, actions, you name it - impractical to carry out I know - but, at least begin to recognize the problem and discuss it, so as to become more united and less divisive as fellow Democrats.You'd think someone who is strongly anti-Bernie would be interested in discussing the topic... but no, not a single response on the merits.

You're so right to point out the projection that goes on, whereby one can only conclude that with all the Bernie bashing you mention, which is so obvious even to the casual observer, it really does mean they're scared his candidacy is taking off and gaining traction!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Open thread. What does Bernie Sanders need to do to reclaim his lead or co-lead? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP

I hate these drive-by posts. stopbush May 2019 #1

Not to worry... we already know. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #2

+1 KPN May 2019 #6

I see so much projection on this forum. Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #14

. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #24

I see the projection too now! lapucelle May 2019 #102

Talk about projection. Nuggets May 2019 #32

Yup, I hear ya HBS...it's what I call the "Bernie Standard," which, by definition... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #50

I pretend criticisms are attacks too... especially when directed against sacred cows. LanternWaste May 2019 #51

Oh please. I'm using du standards. Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #54

Like I said, it's called the "Bernie Standard" for a reason! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #57

Offense only defense when facing superior foe. George Eliot May 2019 #66

And that doesn't give you a clue? wasupaloopa May 2019 #101

+1 more George Eliot May 2019 #63

A question is a good way to open a discussion. MineralMan May 2019 #4

I have an answer, yes. stopbush May 2019 #13

The discussion is already going on, below. MineralMan May 2019 #15

I thought it was his right to start discussion any way he wants? Why critical? George Eliot May 2019 #67

I'm not being critical. I'm saying the same thing you are. MineralMan May 2019 #77

Then let it go. George Eliot May 2019 #90

I don't think Bernie DownriverDem May 2019 #36

Yep and double yep. Nt. kstewart33 May 2019 #52

LOL, Bernie's ALREADY building momentum in Iowa and is about to catch up & pull ahead!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #58

We know exactly what he will say, because we've heard and seen it all before. ehrnst May 2019 #74

I remember this title from four years ago..... brooklynite May 2019 #78

Bookmarked. cwydro May 2019 #88

Thanks! Same to your candidate... gotta say Joes sittin' pretty so far. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #91

I can hope. cwydro May 2019 #92

You and me both!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #94

Don't see it happening, frankly. IluvPitties May 2019 #3

+1000 Nuggets May 2019 #33

Promise not to run in 2020 ucrdem May 2019 #5

Nothing to reclaim, he never had a lead or co-lead. George II May 2019 #7

I'm not sure that Senator Sanders actually ever had a lead MineralMan May 2019 #8

I also do not believe that sanders was ever in the lead Gothmog May 2019 #16

Well, his chief problem is that there are several other MineralMan May 2019 #22

The thing I personally like the MOST about Bernie The Mouth May 2019 #127

How about you get it rolling DSB? What are KPN May 2019 #9

It's beyond my ken. That's why I asked the question. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #12

Nothing. It won't happen. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #10

Bernie never had a lead or co-lead Vidal May 2019 #11

sanders should consider stopping attacking Democrats and the Democratic Party Gothmog May 2019 #17

Yeah I don't see how that is helping him Nuggets May 2019 #34

It is not helping him Gothmog May 2019 #82

Especially as he is getting financial advantages from the party he's attacking. nt. kstewart33 May 2019 #53

Exit the stage so he can become the subject of mythology. There he can always be "in the lead." Maru Kitteh May 2019 #18

exactly, if he leaves , he will be canonized Fresh_Start May 2019 #44

I don't think my suggestion would be very helpful genxlib May 2019 #19

Oh, my! MyOwnPeace May 2019 #41

He never had the lead, but there's also nothing he can do it bearsfootball516 May 2019 #20

I've already said before that I don't think he can win, and he can only hurt us by trying LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #21

If that were TRUE, though it's not, then the same could be said for Biden. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #59

If sanders is the nominee, rump will win 45 states Gothmog May 2019 #83

Suuurrrre... I know from those kinda comments that you fear Bernie will win the primary. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #85

I am so glad that sanders will not be the nominee so we do not need to worry about this Gothmog May 2019 #86

You just made my point AGAIN, thanks!! So, keep bashing Bernie, over and over and over again... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #87

I know too many real democrats who have long memories and who will not forget or forgive Gothmog May 2019 #95

That's great Gothmog, I appreciate your honesty that you look forward to negative ads InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #96

You do know that I was a Clinton delegate to the national convention and saw this behavior myself Gothmog May 2019 #104

Wow! I didn't know Democrats in a delegation were capable of such oasis May 2019 #107

It was not a fun experience Gothmog May 2019 #108

This is chilling. Elijah Cummings, a Dem hero, got booed? oasis May 2019 #109

That 15% rule is going to hurt badly. I'm not that close to how the rule works for delegates... George II May 2019 #110

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ... Surrreeeeeeeeeeeee nt NYMinute May 2019 #106

BTW, if sanders keeps on losing voter support, there will be no need for negative ads Gothmog May 2019 #117

+1000. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #119

.... ehrnst May 2019 #118

Yet more polling is coming out showing the sanders is losing ground Gothmog May 2019 #129

Push em back! Push em back! BannonsLiver May 2019 #89

To win he needs qazplm135 May 2019 #23

I was a big Bernie supporter in '16. I can remember feeling oh so crushed PatrickforO May 2019 #25

Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #27

I wish this could be inserted in the OP True Dough May 2019 #31

Bernie's positions on economic justice, which I absolutely share, are now very much in the mainstrea Nuggets May 2019 #35

Well, as a student of history, I have to disagree. PatrickforO May 2019 #39

I am supporting Warren and Harris. I hope voters realize that if any D wins and we don't get the seaglass May 2019 #75

I'm sure with you on bringing the Trump crime family to justice, PatrickforO May 2019 #103

Great post........ MyOwnPeace May 2019 #42

Reach out to loyal democrats not just independents GeniusJoy May 2019 #26

Loyal Democrats DownriverDem May 2019 #38

Ever watch "Designated Survivor"? mwooldri May 2019 #28

" I'm leaning more toward Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigieg at this point in time." DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #29

Especially since many Sanders supporters here at DU portray Warren as comradebillyboy May 2019 #81

He could start by changing his presentation and affect. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #30

He too cranky and angry. He has a right to be upset over 2016, but this is a new moment. Irishxs May 2019 #37

he contributed to 2016 results Fresh_Start May 2019 #47

Agree. Irishxs May 2019 #62

He has only himself to be upset at. MrsCoffee May 2019 #65

He could drop out, save face and write another book. nt LibFarmer May 2019 #40

And....... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #43

Riiiight, the #2 frontrunner should drop out & save face before the primary has barely started... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #79

Wrrrrrrrrong LibFarmer May 2019 #80

not happening Fresh_Start May 2019 #45

He should stop describing himself as a socialist. Turin_C3PO May 2019 #46

Sanders was at a Food Show with in the last several days. There is a photo irisblue May 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy May 2019 #84

Do? Nothing as the allure of Sanders is now worn off beachbum bob May 2019 #49

There's nothing he can do. That ship has sailed...nt SidDithers May 2019 #55

Thank you for the replies. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #56

It's not possible, the jig is up. ecstatic May 2019 #60

What? Bashing the Dem Cha May 2019 #61

Bow out and throw his support to Warren and hope that she can continue his whatever legacy he has. W_HAMILTON May 2019 #64

I'm laughing so hard. Thread still emphasizing why Sanders can't win. I smell fear. George Eliot May 2019 #68

Biden and Sanders tied at 24% in Iowa. George Eliot May 2019 #70

Sanders down by TWENTY FIVE POINTS in IA, NH, NV, and SC DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #72

Maybe - in my opinion. We'll see. Check this one out. George Eliot May 2019 #73

Yes George... BIG TIME FEAR!! Can't say I blame 'em though!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #98

not any fear samnsara May 2019 #126

Encourage Joe to talk about the crime bill, protecting credit card comp., and keeping weed illegal aikoaiko May 2019 #69

Hopefully, Joe has evolved on those issues and will issue new policy positions on them. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #93

FIRE jill stein ; pushers &voters.. Sirota, Cha May 2019 #71

We are in a different time and a different place. democratisphere May 2019 #76

We sure are...which is precisely why we outta try something DIFFERENT this time around InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #97

Trying something different means leaving all the 2016 contenders democratisphere May 2019 #99

Not at all... it means goin with the candidate with the most forward-looking progressive agenda InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #100

You mean like Warren? TreasonousBastard May 2019 #112

YESSSSS!!! LOVE ELIZABETH!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #113

Well, his CFEL effective rating as a legislator is... Hortensis May 2019 #105

Wow! Bernie's close to dead last compared to actual Dems... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #111

Had it not been for the whole Al Franken affair, KG would prolly be on my Top-10 list. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #114

I have some serious questions about that Franken affair... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #122

Not sure... but, I think that's a fair assessment you gave of KG. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #124

Well, Schumer tells us something about leaders -- Hortensis May 2019 #116

Interesting point-- the leaders don't often have their names attached to legislation... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #120

Right. Warren's great, and I notice that some of our Hortensis May 2019 #123

This is interesting Gothmog May 2019 #115

I wonder where that Cha May 2019 #121

Become a Democrat, join the Democratic Party The Mouth May 2019 #125

Go back in time. djg21 May 2019 #128