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lapucelle

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94. It is, by definition "dark money".
Wed May 22, 2019, 10:58 AM
May 2019
But as he ramps up his second bid for the presidency, Sanders is drawing support from a "dark money" nonprofit run by close associates and funded, in part, by anonymous six-figure contributions.


Our Revolution was organized as a dark money organization. Donors are not disclosed.

Bernie Sanders is back — kind of. A new group, Our Revolution, launched this week to continue the movement that his campaign started by raising and spending money to support “candidates in lockstep with Sanders’ ideals.” But it’s disappointing many who agreed with Sanders’ call for getting money out of politics because as a 501(c)(4) nonprofit, the group would not be required to disclose its donors.

https://sunlightfoundation.com/2016/08/26/bernie-sanderss-new-political-group-wont-have-to-disclose-its-donors/

501(c)(4): Also known as “dark money groups,” these make up some of the most relevant political nonprofits today. Technically deemed “social welfare organizations,” these groups can’t have political activity — such as making ads advocating for or against candidates — as their “primary purpose”; this has unofficially been interpreted to mean they must spend less than 50 percent of their activities on politics or elections. But they can raise unlimited amounts of cash from individuals and organizations alike — without having to disclose who contributed that money. Here’s a disclosure form for Crossroads GPS, a conservative 501(c)(4) that spent more than $120 million on the 2012 elections — note the $22.5 million donation with no name attached. One thing to keep in mind when trying to track the political activity of these groups: (c)(4)s that spend money directly advocating for or against a candidate (an independent expenditure) or make electioneering communications must report that to the FEC.

https://sunlightfoundation.com/2016/02/17/a-glossary-of-campaign-finance-in-the-u-s/#501(c)(4)

From an August 2016 story in a different Vermont newspaper:

Sanders’ new group exempt from campaign finance rules

Sen. Bernie Sanders is building a political organization that will be able to avoid financial disclosure and influence policy from the shadows, a “dark money” strategy he has railed against for years, including on the presidential campaign trail.

The organization, called Our Revolution, will operate as a nonprofit 501(c)(4) — a designation that does not require disclosure of donors or spending because of its status as a social welfare organization. Political action committees, on the other hand, are under the authority and disclosure requirements of the Federal Election Commission rather than the Internal Revenue Service, which oversees nonprofits.

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"]In recent years, 501(c)(4)s have been used by political interests to skirt disclosure rules while influencing public policy. While roughly $10 million was funneled into politics through 501(c)(4)s in the 2010 election, more than $50 million has flooded into the system this year, according to the Center For Responsive Politics.

Sanders frequently railed against this type of influence — often called “dark money” — during his presidential bid, including during a CNN debate in April when he questioned Clinton’s ties to such groups.

“Let’s talk about judgment,” Sanders said then. “Let’s talk about super PACs and 501(c)(4)s, money which is completely undisclosed. Where does the money come from? Do we really feel confident about a candidate saying that she’s going to bring change in America when she is so dependent on big-money interests? I don’t think so.”


The danger, according to Sanders, is that even though the money from a 501(c)(4) cannot be used to promote a particular candidate, the groups can produce “issue ads” to attack an opponent or influence legislation.

https://vtdigger.org/2016/08/22/sanders-new-group-exempt-campaign-finance-rules/
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Well well well.. Cha Apr 2019 #1
Bernie Sanders's new political group won't have to disclose its donors lapucelle Apr 2019 #2
How is that Cha Apr 2019 #5
Bernie has peaked at 20-25% BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19
It's life or death.. Cha May 2019 #82
K&R murielm99 Apr 2019 #3
So, unless OR makes it's donor lists public, attacks on Biden's donors are moot. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #4
Only fair. Cha Apr 2019 #6
Supposedly, they do. namahage Apr 2019 #11
"Anonymous Anonymous" a donor name that just defines 'transparency." (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #14
They don't give the amounts that each has contributed. Interestingly a quick rundown of the list... George II Apr 2019 #29
Our Revolution is a PAC Gothmog Apr 2019 #7
Appears to be so. Skidmore Apr 2019 #8
Technically it is a 501(c)(4) progressoid Apr 2019 #22
This is the same structure used by Karl Rove Gothmog Apr 2019 #23
And Stephen Colbert progressoid Apr 2019 #31
Crossroads GPS, anyone? namahage Apr 2019 #32
Interestingly, Rove's Crossroads GPS ran some anti-Hillary ads in some very targeted ehrnst Apr 2019 #35
Thank YOu! Cha May 2019 #89
Here are some facts Gothmog May 2019 #90
Yeah, I always figured if Cha May 2019 #91
K&R betsuni Apr 2019 #9
The revolution will not be televised pbmus Apr 2019 #10
Oh dear oh dear NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #12
"Status quo," I guess. ehrnst Apr 2019 #13
I'm not championing Bernie, but. zaj Apr 2019 #15
It's about Transparency. Cha May 2019 #92
I have always thought of Sanders as sneaky NYMinute Apr 2019 #16
I agree with you BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #17
Wait. Isn't he Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) now?... SidDithers Apr 2019 #18
I'll be keeping my eyes on the Vermont newspapers. lapucelle Apr 2019 #21
I saw the article last night and meant to post it, but got distracted. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #26
.. Cha May 2019 #83
Mahalo! lapucelle May 2019 #84
I thought of it because Cha May 2019 #85
The Revolution can be monitized in many ways, Cha. lapucelle May 2019 #86
Oh yeah.. I have Cha May 2019 #87
K&R nt lillypaddle Apr 2019 #20
Interesting reading, lapucelle. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #24
I need to time to read but it looks there are $$ from a Nurses Union and some progressive PAC with CentralMass Apr 2019 #25
It's the very definition of dark money. lapucelle Apr 2019 #27
A Nursing Union and a Progressive PAC ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #28
Our Revolution lapucelle Apr 2019 #30
After rezding thae articld more i think that it a well written and honest article CentralMass Apr 2019 #37
Yeah, I'm sure Sanders would not be involved with OR. namahage Apr 2019 #50
We know who that donor is, at least. ehrnst Apr 2019 #33
Yes, a nurses union. lapucelle Apr 2019 #49
Not the same. NNU is headed by some long-time activists Hortensis May 2019 #88
If a PAC participates in political activity but doesn't reveal the sources.... George II Apr 2019 #41
I'm curious as to how the number of donations factors in. lapucelle Apr 2019 #42
Some candidates like to blur the line between donor count and donation count, hoping... George II Apr 2019 #44
Do you know anything about Good Jobs Nation's connection to Our Revolution? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #45
My understanding is that there is a "dotted line" relationship between Our Revolution... George II Apr 2019 #46
Interesting, so Bernie is heavily involved in his groups R B Garr Apr 2019 #56
It also may be a violation of Federal Law on the part of Our Revolution, a 501(c)(4) committee... George II Apr 2019 #60
Breaking the law are we? murielm99 Apr 2019 #67
Blatantly. George II Apr 2019 #68
There is no excuse for this. It's intellectual dishonesty R B Garr May 2019 #71
Even if it's not "against the law" (it probably is), it is proof that Sanders is accepting..... George II May 2019 #72
Yes. Good points, and another reason why we need to see R B Garr May 2019 #73
It is, by definition "dark money". lapucelle May 2019 #94
What? mcar Apr 2019 #34
Hasn't it already been monetized with those stellar book sales? I'm surprised Bernie didn't put UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #36
It's hard tellin' how much the 'free' help that Bernie got from Russia was worth. bloom Apr 2019 #38
Time to kick this with Cha Apr 2019 #39
Our Revolution is a dark money PAC Gothmog Apr 2019 #40
Informative read. brer cat Apr 2019 #43
It seemed strange to me that National Nurses United would Hortensis Apr 2019 #47
This deserves its own OP. lapucelle Apr 2019 #48
Also worth repeating that these were given as dark-money Hortensis Apr 2019 #52
Thank YOu, Hortensis! Cha Apr 2019 #70
I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling on here. nycbos Apr 2019 #51
Bernie, April 2016: namahage Apr 2019 #53
Hypocrisy indeed LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #54
Seems like we may have a problem here: George II Apr 2019 #57
k&r Skidmore Apr 2019 #59
This is illegal-PACs cannot coordinate with campaigns Gothmog Apr 2019 #61
OMG.. are you still willing to "talk" Cha Apr 2019 #63
Not Walking One's Talk Me. Apr 2019 #55
No Kidding! Cha Apr 2019 #64
... Me. Apr 2019 #66
kick nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #58
"I find this whole virtue signaling around corporate donations and no PACs to be ridiculous as.." Cha Apr 2019 #62
Sanders Struggles to Retain Outsider Status Gothmog May 2019 #77
... Scurrilous Apr 2019 #65
K Cha Apr 2019 #69
But IOIBDI ecstatic May 2019 #74
Deep dive into how Bernie Sanders' 2020 campaign is benefitting from political infrastructure Gothmog May 2019 #75
So, in other words, he DOES accept money from Super PACs and organizations accepting "dark money". George II May 2019 #79
Yep Gothmog May 2019 #80
im still trying to figure out what 'our revolution' is about samnsara May 2019 #76
K & R . revmclaren May 2019 #78
Bernie Sanders, a Front-Runner With Financing to Prove It, Struggles to Retain Outsider Status Cha May 2019 #81
Lots of dark money in those PACs LibFarmer May 2019 #93
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