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In reply to the discussion: Ocasio-Cortez, progressives trash 'antisemitic' Politico illustration of Bernie Sanders [View all]Celerity
(54,405 posts)99. The statement 'Bernie Sanders is now in the wealthiest 1% of Americans' is simply not true.
The past 3 years, yes, he was in the top 1% of earners (before that he was not), but in terms of total wealth, he is not even close, as it takes over 10 million dollars in net worth to qualify. He is atm (we shall see how many more books he writes) around 8 million dollars short. His income in 2018 dropped by 50% as well, down to 566,000 dollars. I supposed he will need write a lot more books to have any chance to make the 1% in terms of net wealth.
I do not want Bernie to run for POTUS, I think he is a divisive presence, but I also care about accuracy and perception, and for some, it seems to me, want to try to paint him as some sort of hypocritical (now) part of the US economic controller class (which is what most all his critiques are against) in order to discredit his economic policies. That is simply not accurate.
Bernie is powerful, but certainly that does not come from his accumulated wealth. If he liquidated all his assets (including selling his his Washington condo and his original house, plus the 575,000 dollar summer home he bought recently), then after taxes he would probably have around half (or maybe a little more, I assume his 2 older properties have went up in value, especially the condo, although his 2 million dollar figure does purport to show their present value) of what it would take to buy Biden's new 2.7 million dollar home. That is not a swipe at Biden in the least, it is simple showing a comparision. Biden may now well be over the 10 million net wealth threshold (his book deal was around 8 million USD) BUT Biden is also nowhere near the economic level of the controlling class. Just like Sanders, almost all his power is political. Sanders still is well below the average net wealth of Democratic Senators, even after his newly minted book income.
I do not want Bernie to run for POTUS, I think he is a divisive presence, but I also care about accuracy and perception, and for some, it seems to me, want to try to paint him as some sort of hypocritical (now) part of the US economic controller class (which is what most all his critiques are against) in order to discredit his economic policies. That is simply not accurate.
Bernie is powerful, but certainly that does not come from his accumulated wealth. If he liquidated all his assets (including selling his his Washington condo and his original house, plus the 575,000 dollar summer home he bought recently), then after taxes he would probably have around half (or maybe a little more, I assume his 2 older properties have went up in value, especially the condo, although his 2 million dollar figure does purport to show their present value) of what it would take to buy Biden's new 2.7 million dollar home. That is not a swipe at Biden in the least, it is simple showing a comparision. Biden may now well be over the 10 million net wealth threshold (his book deal was around 8 million USD) BUT Biden is also nowhere near the economic level of the controlling class. Just like Sanders, almost all his power is political. Sanders still is well below the average net wealth of Democratic Senators, even after his newly minted book income.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Ocasio-Cortez, progressives trash 'antisemitic' Politico illustration of Bernie Sanders [View all]
Uncle Joe
May 2019
OP
It was his friend and economic advisor Bruce Seifer who is quoted as calling BS "cheap".
lapucelle
May 2019
#104
That's quite a stretch. Nowhere in that article are any of those statements, and nowhere....
George II
May 2019
#116
And the fact remains that the article didn't mention that Sanders is Jewish nor were....
George II
May 2019
#118
The Politico story on BS's millions is recommended on Jewish Journal's "Best of the Web"
NurseJackie
May 2019
#113
Adding link to the money tree picture at the top of the article for reference
backtoblue
May 2019
#44
BS is not portrayed as rich. BS is rich. The article is about how he got rich.
lapucelle
May 2019
#100
Whose hand? It was BS's friend and political advisor who is quoted as calling BS "cheap".
lapucelle
May 2019
#105
The article is about how BS amassed his wealth and about his being a millionaire socialist.
lapucelle
May 2019
#101
1 million dollars isn't wealthy, its upper middle class & I can now put politico in the same G file
yaesu
May 2019
#11
No it isn't antisemetic, but what they are trying to imply is it is the same thing as when Rep Omar
still_one
May 2019
#13
They may not have meant it that way, but it could be interpreted that way.
Susan Calvin
May 2019
#15
Yep. They're making it something it's not. Makes me question their motives. nt
Susan Calvin
May 2019
#78
The statement 'Bernie Sanders is now in the wealthiest 1% of Americans' is simply not true.
Celerity
May 2019
#99
No it isn't about what aboutism. Now When Diane Rhem on PBS pushes the dual citizenship lie on
still_one
May 2019
#25
Did you even read the article? It is making the argument about Sanders battle with the "rich",
still_one
May 2019
#34
You addressed the topic of BS's millions "comprehensively" by claiming "he's not that rich".
lapucelle
May 2019
#112
Thanks Sheshe. People seem to be offended by the graphic, and I guess taken by itself it could be
still_one
May 2019
#52
Because of the graphic they are diverting attention from the actual article, and arguing this is
still_one
May 2019
#66
I know what I said. I said the argument was weak at best, but the point I was making here
still_one
May 2019
#69
I hear you, and understand what you are saying, but the article itself is referring to his political
still_one
May 2019
#45
When Diane Rehm tried to push the LIE that Sanders had dual citizenship with Israel in 2016, there
still_one
May 2019
#48
Absoltuely. Whether we agree or disagree here, it should help us all to understand different
still_one
May 2019
#51
Interesting that you seem to be associating wealth with Jews. The piece is associating his politica
still_one
May 2019
#26
his 'wealth' lololol, Bernie is not even remotely in the 1% (takes over 10 million to qualify)
Celerity
May 2019
#36
I agree, it is a weak argument, but if you read the article, it is the authors view that Sanders is
still_one
May 2019
#37
I do not know your age, but Bernie's wealth is hardly what I would consider excessive
Celerity
May 2019
#47
cool, and here is something that really puts all this into perspective, especially Bernie
Celerity
May 2019
#53
Now you are preaching to the choir. Thanks for the tables. A picture tells a thousand words
still_one
May 2019
#54
No it doesn't. It takes about $480K income to be in the 1% nationally, $320K in Vermont....
George II
May 2019
#61
his total net worth atm (around 2m USD) is not remotely at the threshold for being in the top 1%
Celerity
May 2019
#65
no, it ususally refers to the total wealth, and is certainly the way I mean it
Celerity
May 2019
#70
Congresswoman Omar was not referring to Jews when she made her remark. She was referring to AIPAC
aidbo
May 2019
#84
I had heard he is the least wealthy Senator. Maybe the book he wrote got him some money.
pdsimdars
May 2019
#19
"these attacks just make my connection to him stronger. Go Bernie." So why are you "undecided"?
George II
May 2019
#63
Obviously a lot of people here didn't even read the article. It has nothing to do with Sanders
still_one
May 2019
#38
It appears that neither the author of the article or you even know what Sanders position even is...
Humanist_Activist
May 2019
#72
I guess it really is, whether or not one perceives the image as anti-Semitic, in the eye of the
emmaverybo
May 2019
#41
I agree it's in the eye of the beholder. Politico doesn't have a history of anti-Semitism.
Honeycombe8
May 2019
#89
I felt the same thing when I read that article earlier. Sick in my stomach. This growing cancer
JudyM
May 2019
#58
I didn't see any anti semitism. It just tweeked Bernie about becoming a
comradebillyboy
May 2019
#71
Exactly! This whole thing is just a kneejerk "Bernie is a victim" response.
NurseJackie
May 2019
#73
It's more than progressives reacting to this. Its the double standard exemplified. shameful.
Kurt V.
May 2019
#83
What was Burnie telling kids on that video about jews? Strange sex habits, money?
robbedvoter
May 2019
#85
"The piece is associating his political socialist ideology which is counter to wealth."
ehrnst
May 2019
#124
The Politico piece was willfully ignorant on both democratic socialism in general, Bernie's message;
Uncle Joe
May 2019
#133
Other than the anti-Semitic illustration, that's the main point of the Politico piece
Uncle Joe
May 2019
#145
That's because the piece was pointless other than to trash Bernie for no good reason.
Uncle Joe
May 2019
#147
"The piece is associating his political socialist ideology which is counter to wealth."
ehrnst
May 2019
#125