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ucrdem

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99. Did you forget that they ended the Iraq war in 2009?

Mon May 27, 2019, 05:17 PM

May 2019

They propped up the economy, sure, but what would the alternative have been? Letting Detroit go bankrupt? As for the wars, Guantanamo, immigration, etc they did what could but Congress makes the laws. When we briefly had a Dem senate they got ACA through after 80 years of failed attempts at establishing a national health care program.

p.s. here's an example of propping up the status quo:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why Joe Biden Is the Only True Progressive Candidate (Forbes) [View all] Drunken Irishman May 2019 OP

I like Joe. murielm99 May 2019 #1

Since we're discussing progressives and you brought up her name, so far in this session.... George II May 2019 #24

Lol, no. aidbo May 2019 #2

Funny, that's my reaction every time I hear Bernie speak. BannonsLiver May 2019 #8

Nope, it's not funny. Just sad. aidbo May 2019 #13

Surely you must be talking about Bernie's poll numbers. BannonsLiver May 2019 #19

4% with older voters (50 and above)... ouch Celerity May 2019 #23

Ouch is right, 4% in one's own age group is stunning. George II May 2019 #25

sometimes wisdom comes with age Fresh_Start May 2019 #28

K&R nt NYMinute May 2019 #3

Beto made a strong, succinct case for impeachment on Nicole Wallace. nt emmaverybo May 2019 #33

How'd Joe vote on the Hyde Amendment? 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #4

What about it? It was a wrong move. No one is going to have a perfect record. Politicub May 2019 #6

His votes against reproductive rights are still part of his record. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #7

I think what the poster is saying is they aren't a single issue voter BannonsLiver May 2019 #9

"It's a novel concept for some folks, apparently." Cha May 2019 #42

"how Anita Hill's case against Thomas was handled" Demit May 2019 #12

I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm not Biden. I'm not even sure of what the point of your post is. Politicub May 2019 #14

The point of my post is that Joe Biden continues to evade responsibility Demit May 2019 #20

He doesn't evade responsibility for his actions ("negative" or not).... George II May 2019 #27

It has only become a Biden vs. Hill event in deconstruction. Anyone watch the hearings? Joe emmaverybo May 2019 #39

Thanks for the quote from Anita Hill, Geoge.. Cha May 2019 #43

I'm glad I gave you an opportunity to get that out of your system Politicub May 2019 #34

I've been vocal about him before, and will continue to be, Demit May 2019 #38

Years ago don't care... Joe is the only candidate who can repair the blue wall Demsrule86 May 2019 #91

Handled by whom? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #101

Mahalo, Politicub! Cha May 2019 #40

Biden is a progressive, indeed. To be progressive is to make progress, not just talk about it. Politicub May 2019 #5

totally agree Fresh_Start May 2019 #29

I prefer the term liberal BannonsLiver May 2019 #10

Agree LakeArenal May 2019 #32

Maybe I am contrarian, but Forbes rurallib May 2019 #11

Truth's wherever we find it. Trump saying the economy Hortensis May 2019 #17

Bernie Sanders wrote part of the ACA Eric J in MN May 2019 #48

What part of the ACA did Senator Sanders write? That claim is a first, never heard that. nt Blue_true May 2019 #50

The part funding community health centers. NT Eric J in MN May 2019 #53

Yes, Sanders did contribute that, so no else did. Hortensis May 2019 #66

In 2017, Bernie Sanders did rallies Eric J in MN May 2019 #67

Did it ever occur to you that if the Republicans had Hortensis May 2019 #68

So your theory is that Eric J in MN May 2019 #75

Most of what you wrote was not claimed by Hortensis. Blue_true May 2019 #80

That's not my memory either, though I believe he did Hortensis May 2019 #82

Well Done, Hortensis.. Mahalo! Cha May 2019 #77

sorry to break it to you Fresh_Start May 2019 #31

thanks for the attitude rurallib May 2019 #36

I thought the exact same thing. /nt tonedevil May 2019 #51

"Tend to be dismissive" is putting it mildly... Forbes had ZERO credibility with me!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #110

I'm skeptical of Fortune magazine bias on what counts for political progressivism aikoaiko May 2019 #15

Being ranked among the 25 most liberal Senators hardly makes you a big progressive pnwmom May 2019 #16

That's the first thing that came to my mind, too, when I read the second paragraph of the OP mtnsnake May 2019 #69

+10000 Celerity May 2019 #79

this author thinks Tim Sloan was a great CEO KayF May 2019 #18

that one leaves a mark shanny May 2019 #83

Biden is of the Establishment ProfessorPlum May 2019 #21

Ohhhh "Establishment".. Cha May 2019 #44

You're confusing "establishment" with "established" progressoid May 2019 #73

Sure can.. but I'm not "confused".. Cha May 2019 #76

I want a long-time established Democrat riverine May 2019 #54

The establishment as you call it produced Democratic majorities. The tear it down Demsrule86 May 2019 #92

So Ted Kennedy was not an "Authentic 20th century progressive" crazytown May 2019 #22

Sorry wrong place . . . ucrdem May 2019 #59

whoops that's twice ucrdem May 2019 #60

I think my reply was in exactly the right place crazytown May 2019 #62

No worries. For the record, the article doesn't mention the Kennedys at all. ucrdem May 2019 #63

No indeed. The article is written as if the left stream of progressives didn't exist crazytown May 2019 #64

Fortune Magazine?? HopeAgain May 2019 #26

It sure is!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #107

Sharp analysis from Forbes, America's true progressive news source Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #30

More or less progressive.... LakeArenal May 2019 #35

Forbes... say no more! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #37

+1000 Tarheel_Dem May 2019 #41

Great Factual analysis! Can't Cha May 2019 #45

LMAO Ace Rothstein May 2019 #46

Votes by Joe Biden include for Eric J in MN May 2019 #47

"Gutting" welfare--fixed it for ya-- shanny May 2019 #84

That's part of the reason Joe has serious work to do to convince progressive Democrats InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #111

Unfortunately, that Republican Party referenced in the article is gone. Replaced by extremists... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #49

No, Biden is not a Progressive. He's a centrist Democrat. Period, the end, finished. YOHABLO May 2019 #52

Na'. He's a progressive. Drunken Irishman May 2019 #55

He's a progressive compared to Republicans, but not to most other Democrats. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #71

Biden is smack in the middle of Democrats today riverine May 2019 #56

That's what you think. YOHABLO May 2019 #58

+10000, Forbes is a centre-right (if not outright RW) rag trying to gaslight Celerity May 2019 #78

True dat!! How is this even debatable?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #108

Biden IS A true progressive, and someone with sense--both necessary qualities. Irishxs May 2019 #57

I can see the logic. On guns and climate change alone he's at the head of the pack. ucrdem May 2019 #61

On climate change he's at the head of the pack? shanny May 2019 #85

Politifact: History says yes. ucrdem May 2019 #88

I am interested in "is" not "was" shanny May 2019 #112

Having been through bankruptcy, and seeing it loom large once again, GreenPartyVoter May 2019 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver May 2019 #70

American 20th century progressives loyalsister May 2019 #72

So where did you cut and paste this little tidbit from? You should at least note resources. YOHABLO May 2019 #86

There are plenty of sources loyalsister May 2019 #87

This has nothing whatsoevery to do with Biden. Period. nt ucrdem May 2019 #89

Your complaint is with the article cited in the OP loyalsister May 2019 #94

Someone who favors credit card companies over consumers doesn't really get the progressive nod. progressoid May 2019 #74

Oh FFS shanny May 2019 #81

Because of the markets? ucrdem May 2019 #90

the "markets" that have done such great things shanny May 2019 #93

Without getting too snarky here it's a reference to a remark ucrdem May 2019 #95

I'm not very interested in the health of the markets shanny May 2019 #96

Agree, but nevertheless, the show must go on. ucrdem May 2019 #97

Barack and Joe propped up the status quo. shanny May 2019 #98

Did you forget that they ended the Iraq war in 2009? ucrdem May 2019 #99

uh, just an FYI, dimson bush OKed the deal to end the Iraq War shanny May 2019 #100

There's a segment of the left who hates Obama as much as Fat Donnie BannonsLiver May 2019 #103

We need a revolution, not a "return to normalcy"! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #102

I agree. shanny May 2019 #105

And I do think Elizabeth gets us there. Could EASILY see her as #1 on the ticket... she's THAT good! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #106

Yep Ace Rothstein May 2019 #113

How do some people not see this?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #114

Because they think Russia and Comey are the only reasons that Hillary lost in 2016. Ace Rothstein May 2019 #115

They WANT to think that... so true, as you say, that it shouldn't have even been close!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #116

Seriously!! What could be Forbes motivation?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #109

Could someone define the difference between a progressive and a liberal? happyaccident May 2019 #104