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MineralMan

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73. No, He Doesn't Have To...

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:07 AM

May 2019

However, winning next November is going to require the votes of some independent voters, as well as solid Democrats. Fundraising is part of every political campaign. So, Joe Biden said thank you to those who donated at some guy's home. He did the same in California. He'll do the same in many places.

The ability to raise campaign funds is an important part of running for President. Campaigns cost money. Real money.

So, I'm not bothered by some independent hosting a fundraising gathering for Joe Biden. I don't know who attended, really, nor who wrote those checks up to the maximum individual donation of $2800. Do you?

I assume that one of the checks, though, came from John Morgan. If he can help Biden get elected, my thanks go out to him, I say. I don't have that kind of money to donate, so I appreciate that those who do are donating.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Does Joe Biden really have to let this ex-Democrat, anti-AOC lawyer help fundraise? [View all] pnwmom May 2019 OP

Yes, because that is what moderation is. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #1

He doesn't have to take money from someone whose firm donated pnwmom May 2019 #2

And Trump donated a ton of money to Democrats, including Hillary, over the years before he ran. oldsoftie May 2019 #24

Morgan also backed Hillary according to his wiki ucrdem May 2019 #27

He also was donated heavily to support a 15 dollar/our miniumum wage in Florida, is pro-choice, was still_one May 2019 #25

He got 1.7 million dollars...and you are worried about 135,000? You be pure, I want to win. And I Demsrule86 May 2019 #43

Please focus DownriverDem May 2019 #40

You know what losing to Trump would be ...a huge obscenity that creates risk for our party, Demsrule86 May 2019 #44

I understand the argument, I just don't think it has worked. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #74

The elections we could have won were all lost by the left...often third parties . Without a big tent Demsrule86 May 2019 #75

Last time we had the far left occupy the white house, he was re-elected so many times, they needed Tiggeroshii May 2019 #76

Roosevelt? Seriously. That was what 75 years ago since the last election? Demsrule86 May 2019 #80

Moderation got us Sharice Davids, Katie Hill, Jahana Hayes, and about 35 other new members.... George II May 2019 #77

Great for them, but on a national level? Tiggeroshii May 2019 #78

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama? George II May 2019 #83

.. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #84

I don't get your point. Didn't Carter and Johnson win? I know Carter wasn't re-elected.... George II May 2019 #87

I concede you are correct. Tiggeroshii May 2019 #89

If the choice is between being Woke/progress and winning-I want to win Gothmog May 2019 #90

Michael Steele is a right wing nut job Tiggeroshii May 2019 #91

Oh great.. you found something to Cha May 2019 #3

It's not hard. His greatest strength is Obama. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #4

That's not true. Cha May 2019 #5

I'm so tired of this. Already. Control-Z May 2019 #8

You know "from where it comes"? pnwmom May 2019 #10

There is a lot of research on the affects of negativity Cary May 2019 #30

There is a difference between not being for Biden and attacking constantly. Demsrule86 May 2019 #55

Sorry your guy Avenatti isn't doing so well jberryhill May 2019 #62

Here's to the strength, Cha May 2019 #11

+1,000!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2019 #26

There seems to be a concerted effort to smear and undermine the current front-runner. Frankly, that, emmaverybo May 2019 #129

Instead of assuming, ask any DU Biden supporter if we are all in because of Obama. emmaverybo May 2019 #6

Opinions like this are subjective. pnwmom May 2019 #9

Aren't all opinions subjective? lapucelle May 2019 #17

Come on quickesst May 2019 #35

He wrote and passed the violence against women act. I find that impressive... Demsrule86 May 2019 #56

I responded with why I support Joe to YOUR subjective statement, and generalization, that emmaverybo May 2019 #68

Mahalo, emmaverybo.. Biden has the best polls Cha May 2019 #12

Why doesn't he say anything about protecting a woman's right to choose on his website? pnwmom May 2019 #13

That's pretty good evidence it's not important to him. Demit May 2019 #14

Joe Biden's position on a woman's right to choose: still_one May 2019 #20

Yes, I have heard him say it. But why, unlike the other top candidates, pnwmom May 2019 #22

He has said it more than once since he enteredd the race, so there is no ambiguity on his position still_one May 2019 #41

Thanks Cha for posting about Joe's focus on education and his plan. emmaverybo May 2019 #69

Amen to that! True Blue American May 2019 #15

Thank-you for insullting those who are supporting Biden, by effectively saying he is an still_one May 2019 #28

And he was Obama's greatest strength which is why he was selected, out of countless choices, as VP. Skya Rhen May 2019 #36

Unfair and untrue...he brought Obama along on some issues...you just hate the guy. Demsrule86 May 2019 #45

It's the system. You look back to the 1930's and people in government didn't make much money, rusty quoin May 2019 #7

Your candidate and several others are bucking the system. watoos May 2019 #19

If we had public financing of elections this wouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately, that isn't how still_one May 2019 #33

Yes, and it's something to be proud. rusty quoin May 2019 #148

Obama once said that by 80's standards he would be considered a moderate republican MasonDreams May 2019 #16

How about someone who could beat Trump? Demsrule86 May 2019 #49

Who can? MasonDreams May 2019 #145

No it didn't. And those who helped Trump get elected should fuck off...I am sick of words like that. Demsrule86 May 2019 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author MasonDreams May 2019 #152

FDR and LBJ are both dead so you can't have either one. comradebillyboy May 2019 #82

The post was about political philosophy, MasonDreams May 2019 #146

She's a congresswomen not a bartender. she made rich man sad. Kurt V. May 2019 #18

Morgan is very influential in the state of Florida, and has a lot of influence. but hey, Florida still_one May 2019 #21

Florida is a screwed up state zipplewrath May 2019 #39

Morgan has been a major Democratic fundraiser in Florida, and helped bring in money for President still_one May 2019 #46

And Crist zipplewrath May 2019 #48

I am not from Florida so I appreciate the perspective. I also believe that money can help win still_one May 2019 #60

Can help zipplewrath May 2019 #66

Biden could flip Florida Gothmog May 2019 #97

Poll: Florida voters sour on Trump, all Democrats — except Biden Gothmog May 2019 #93

Not Because of Morgan zipplewrath May 2019 #143

Yes he is. nt Blue_true May 2019 #140

Considering that a sometime Democrat is currently in second place ucrdem May 2019 #23

touche' still_one May 2019 #29

Likewise! ucrdem May 2019 #31

It is about winning Florida, and Morgan has a lot of influence in Florida. still_one May 2019 #32

... Kahuna7 May 2019 #37

totally agree, she's not representative of the majority of democrats, especially here in the Midwest beachbum bob May 2019 #52

How much did AOC raise for him? jberryhill May 2019 #34

Yes, seems VP Biden is a FL swinger with wide appeal Deb May 2019 #38

I looked up John Morgan. He's an Independent & looks okay to me. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #42

Of course he doesn't but he did. BeckyDem May 2019 #47

No, I like Elizabeth Warren but she can't rebuild the blue wall without which not only will we lose Demsrule86 May 2019 #51

Her policies have cross over appeal. BeckyDem May 2019 #54

They realy don't...she will not win Pennsylvania....she is east coast...she will not rebuild the Demsrule86 May 2019 #58

Ya know, that is a distortion of the political landscape. BeckyDem May 2019 #61

I like Biden for his accomplishments...so there. Demsrule86 May 2019 #63

Warren's policies are popular, she is not east coast. BeckyDem May 2019 #64

She will be perceived as East Coast. If policiy would carry the day, she would be doing better in Demsrule86 May 2019 #65

Do you realize that for every policy that is popular which you said BeckyDem May 2019 #70

It won't.She is not popular where I live nor in PA and she will be painted as a big spend liberal Demsrule86 May 2019 #72

I really like Warren. She can't win with policies. redstateblues May 2019 #137

We all win with Medicare for All. BeckyDem May 2019 #144

I live down here, and I don't care one bit. IluvPitties May 2019 #50

That is how I feel...I don't care about fundraising..we have no way to get rid of United so we can't Demsrule86 May 2019 #53

John Morgan helped to unseat a house Republican in Floridas last election. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #57

#fakenews ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #59

Is this the Morgan you're talking about? lapucelle May 2019 #67

Yep, that's him. highplainsdem May 2019 #94

Yes that is him. He is a big dog down here. nt Blue_true May 2019 #141

Wait, wait... THIS bothers you? But Bernie taking-on Stein people is A-okay? NurseJackie May 2019 #71

Maybe they were the only people available. lapucelle May 2019 #109

No, He Doesn't Have To... MineralMan May 2019 #73

This is part of running a campaign Gothmog May 2019 #79

There are plenty of good Democrats who aren't fans of OAC. comradebillyboy May 2019 #81

I agree. I consider myself a "good Democrat" who has supported Democrats for decades.... George II May 2019 #85

Definitely. highplainsdem May 2019 #86

I would rank her in a similar fashion Gothmog May 2019 #92

This guy is a real gem melman May 2019 #88

Morgan also gave $250,000 to Andrew Gillum's campaign for governor. He raised $3M for HRC highplainsdem May 2019 #95

"Since that time, he's given $135,000 to the Republican Party of Florida" melman May 2019 #100

And now he's raising money for Democrats again. lapucelle May 2019 #105

"Cortez" melman May 2019 #106

... lapucelle May 2019 #110

I've said it before melman May 2019 #112

No impeachment and a centrist candidate. Is it a winning combination? jalan48 May 2019 #96

Do you have proof on that.. "no impeachment"? Cha May 2019 #98

Have you heard anything different from our leadership? jalan48 May 2019 #99

You definitively posted "no impeachment".. I'm Cha May 2019 #101

Claiming about Biden? I'm simply stating he's a Centrist. jalan48 May 2019 #102

You said "no impeachment" Do you have a link? Cha May 2019 #103

No Impeachment it the current stance of our Democratic leadership. You haven't heard? jalan48 May 2019 #104

You're avoiding the question. Please Cha May 2019 #107

I have no idea what you are talking about. jalan48 May 2019 #108

Got a link for your statement that Biden says "No impeachment"? Cha May 2019 #111

I never said that-two different concepts. Centrism and Democratic leadership on impeachment. jalan48 May 2019 #113

So you take it back that Biden Cha May 2019 #114

You seem confused by what I said. jalan48 May 2019 #115

Keep deflecting. It's not workng. Cha May 2019 #118

Yes.. I thought you were talking about Cha May 2019 #125

No problem Cha. I was just musing about the election next year. jalan48 May 2019 #130

Thanks for being Cha May 2019 #131

Hey, we may disagree on some things but on the big one-electing Democrats we are on the same page. jalan48 May 2019 #133

? The poster never claimed that Biden said that. Demit May 2019 #119

The OP is about Biden Cha May 2019 #120

You accused jalan48 of claiming Biden said "no impeachment." He or she did not. Demit May 2019 #121

I asked for a link. Cha May 2019 #123

JFC, you also asked if he/she was going to "take back" the claim he never made. Demit May 2019 #126

I already apologized to him. Cha May 2019 #127

Him jalan48 May 2019 #134

Sorry! Cha May 2019 #135

Glad we cleared that up! jalan48 May 2019 #136

Actually,yes. We could lose the house and the presidency if we impeach Trump. Demsrule86 May 2019 #149

I don't share your optimism on this. Time will tell. jalan48 May 2019 #151

We have 40 moderates in the house ...from mostly red states and districts...make Trump sympathetic Demsrule86 May 2019 #154

Yes we could. Trump and both houses means no impeachment for sure. jalan48 May 2019 #155

John Morgan raised money for Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #116

Do you realize how silly you look suggesting Biden's fundraisers must admire Bernie organizer AOC, highplainsdem May 2019 #117

This guy isn't just anti-AOC. His firm gave $135,000 to Republicans in 2018. pnwmom May 2019 #122

He also gave a quarter million to Andrew Gillum's campaign for governor last year. He's raised highplainsdem May 2019 #124

Yes, he raised millions for Dems over the years before he left the party. pnwmom May 2019 #128

We'll see what he does going forward? Just what he gave Gillum last year, after he left the highplainsdem May 2019 #132

So good, this. nt emmaverybo May 2019 #138

John Morgan is powerfully influential in Florida. Blue_true May 2019 #139

Do you know why he left the party? n/t pnwmom May 2019 #142

I honestly don't know. Most of the recent progressive change in the state has been because of him. Blue_true May 2019 #147

Well, if other candidates can have Democratic party opposing senior staffers and still be ehrnst May 2019 #153