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George II

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176. The fact is in all his House and Senate elections he never got more than 208,000 votes.....

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:24 PM

May 2019

....and only twice got more than 200,000 votes. Remember, he runs for office in Vermont with a total population of 625,000, 95% of which are white.

On the other hand, Kamala Harris got 7,500,000 votes when elected Senator in 2016, Kirsten Gillibrand got 4,000,000 and 4,800,000 votes in her two Senate runs. California and New York are among the most diverse states in the country. Based on this, I'd venture to guess that both Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand have a lot more "political skills".

Finally, Senators do not have access to "lots of money making opportunities LEGALLY", their outside income is extremely limited. They can earn only 15% of their salary. They can earn money on investments and can (this is important) receive royalties on books. They can NOT accept honoraria, or speaking fees, other than $2000, which has to be donated to a charitable organization.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders Is Not That Rich for Someone His Age [View all] Uncle Joe May 2019 OP

I don't know any senior citizens that are millionaires. Shell_Seas May 2019 #1

Well that settles it then, there must not be any out there. Uncle Joe May 2019 #2

Yes Uncle Joe, Bernie needs to withdraw from the race... immediately!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #3

Nice try DownriverDem May 2019 #11

Very sensible statement. Thanks! George II May 2019 #29

Compared to the other 99 US Senators, Bernie is probably at140 May 2019 #101

Agreed!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #135

Maybe there's around 1%? W_HAMILTON May 2019 #4

Correct, Bernie needs to dropout immediately! at140 May 2019 #10

Wow, somehow I think you may have insulted a lot of DUers. cwydro May 2019 #41

I clearly defined 3 pre-conditions to reach at140 May 2019 #74

A "good" field, eh? yardwork May 2019 #162

They edited their post. sheshe2 May 2019 #137

Bernie isn't particularly wealthy for a man who grabbed the Hortensis May 2019 #50

Please read post #74...nt at140 May 2019 #75

Yes, your post where you basically called everyone else stupid. kcr May 2019 #85

Don't allocate words to me which are not present in my post. at140 May 2019 #90

Those "unallocated" words were present in your post before you edited it. lapucelle May 2019 #113

It is copied in my replies as well. sheshe2 May 2019 #121

I just saw it. lapucelle May 2019 #123

Always a good idea to copy the text you are responding to. sheshe2 May 2019 #126

See post 90 sheshe2 May 2019 #139

Oh please. Do you have any idea at all how most people 70 and up... brush May 2019 #54

Only 3% of all Americans are millionaires, probably half that have $2 million. George II May 2019 #62

Every home owner in many cities is already worth Million $$ at140 May 2019 #77

That's assuming every mortgage is fully paid off.... George II May 2019 #104

Bazinga! sheshe2 May 2019 #125

That's one of the most uniformed things I've heard today. brush May 2019 #109

Do you have data to support that supposition? lapucelle May 2019 #110

Those Median worth's are pretty damn high at140 May 2019 #116

Wrong. It does not necessarily mean that there are a "whole bunch above the million mark". lapucelle May 2019 #138

See post #157.. at140 May 2019 #158

"which means there are a whole bunch above the million mark, right?" NO, not at all. George II May 2019 #140

... lapucelle May 2019 #141

Net worth is sum of... at140 May 2019 #157

Anyone who owns a 3 bedroom home in many cities is already worth at140 May 2019 #76

Here's some actual data. lapucelle May 2019 #108

If "Median" value is that high, at140 May 2019 #117

Half are above. Why are you assuming that almost half are "quite a bit above that"? lapucelle May 2019 #122

See post #157.. at140 May 2019 #159

Why? It's irrelevent to how the median is calculated. lapucelle May 2019 #161

See post #108.. ehrnst May 2019 #171

Not a millionaire in the bunch. George II May 2019 #130

Nope, not at all. Do you factor in that most high priced homes have high level mortgages? George II May 2019 #142

Then thruth is that just two years ago Sanders was without any smarts, acted like he lunamagica May 2019 #56

Hey, anyone could do it. Sanders said so. Hortensis May 2019 #57

Nope, all it means is Bernie was not focused on chasing wealth at140 May 2019 #79

"would have reached $2 million net worth long time ago if he was greedy"? He earned.... George II May 2019 #132

"Exceptionally honest?" "If he was greedy?" ehrnst May 2019 #172

So, does that include everyone you know in their late 70's? If so, then isn't Bernie's message ehrnst May 2019 #58

It takes lot of political skills to become a United States at140 May 2019 #73

"Truth is if by age 75 one has not reached $2 million networth, one has to be without any smarts, ehrnst May 2019 #145

I admit my initial post was not detailed enough at140 May 2019 #164

Bernie has a law degree? ehrnst May 2019 #167

I already answered that... at140 May 2019 #168

You didn't answer it for me. ehrnst May 2019 #169

The fact is in all his House and Senate elections he never got more than 208,000 votes..... George II May 2019 #176

No it does not include every one in their 70's at140 May 2019 #80

Wow awesomerwb1 May 2019 #61

Yes, sad but true at140 May 2019 #82

I thought you said it was because they didn't have "smarts" or "education." (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #173

One of the most asshole'ish statements I think I've ever seen here. Amimnoch May 2019 #67

Amazing how insensitive some can be, isn't it? George II May 2019 #71

Please read my post again. I never said all people over 70 should be millionaires at140 May 2019 #84

No. sheshe2 May 2019 #96

He said they were stupid. He used and. The person has to be stupid, without an education FreeBe May 2019 #97

Just mentioned to him that there is no way he can backpedal. sheshe2 May 2019 #103

Not really. Pretty much not getting any traction with the back pedaling. His words are clear. FreeBe May 2019 #106

But then when it is pointed out Sanders too was one of us losers until he ran a 2016 campaign FreeBe May 2019 #98

Here's the unedited post. lapucelle May 2019 #114

This mcar May 2019 #88

Love to you and yours. sheshe2 May 2019 #136

Are you serious? Do you realize how few Americans have $2 million net worth regardless of their age? George II May 2019 #69

How old was Sanders when he hit a net worth of 2 million? NT SouthernProgressive May 2019 #83

Sanders could have hit $2 Million net worth long ago IF at140 May 2019 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernProgressive May 2019 #92

Please explain. sheshe2 May 2019 #111

Do you realize how insulting you are being? mcar May 2019 #86

This is a side issue, but if either of you have defined benefit spooky3 May 2019 #99

He has a pension mcar May 2019 #151

How dare you insult me and people like me. sheshe2 May 2019 #91

I agree my post #10 did not go into more detail at140 May 2019 #94

Nope you did not clearly define anything. sheshe2 May 2019 #102

Check your privilege. Politicub May 2019 #93

Point is $2 million net worth is not at all excessive for a man like Bernie at140 May 2019 #95

It's 'different' for Bernie than any other career politician who makes ehrnst May 2019 #170

Great edit. sheshe2 May 2019 #133

Hahahahahahahahaha! oldsoftie May 2019 #26

LOL! mtnsnake May 2019 #70

I think there was one, but he died years back. TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #6

You probably do, but don't know it. My family has no idea what I'm worth. Lochloosa May 2019 #8

I don't want my wife to know my networth! at140 May 2019 #14

Probably wouldn't be hard to do. ZZenith May 2019 #78

I agree! at140 May 2019 #81

I'm sure she could find a less insulting person with some sensitivity. n/t zackymilly May 2019 #163

May be, but she won't find a better at140 May 2019 #165

You're not definitely not a woman, are you? ehrnst May 2019 #175

Let me double check... at140 May 2019 #177

ditto samnsara May 2019 #27

Dead Solid ProfessorGAC May 2019 #63

Reading replies to your comment, ChiTownDenny May 2019 #37

NO, most senior citizens are not poor. May not be Hortensis May 2019 #48

Ding, ding, ding! So true. The premise of this OP is bs. brush May 2019 #53

Which isn't in conflict with the article zipplewrath May 2019 #152

Seriously, you're actually agreeing that college-educated 70-somethings should be multi-millionaires brush May 2019 #166

If you lived in an expensive city where even modest Hortensis May 2019 #49

You might and not even know it. karynnj May 2019 #150

Bernie only made millions after he ran for president on a socialist platform Vidal May 2019 #5

The POINT is ignored, it is he made his 'millions' after writing a successful book, elleng May 2019 #7

Really? DownriverDem May 2019 #13

I am not attacking ANY Dems, elleng May 2019 #16

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #23

Thanks, Lug. elleng May 2019 #35

I realized after that I used a very left leaning author to prove my point LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #44

OH NO!!! elleng May 2019 #47

Hillary was eviscerated for making money off her political career... W_HAMILTON May 2019 #34

Exactly LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #39

Exactly. betsuni May 2019 #60

He made millions after he ran for president Vidal May 2019 #43

It's a FACT that BS only made millions after he ran for president on a socialist platform. lapucelle May 2019 #118

Calling the 'socialist' name, eh? elleng May 2019 #120

I call BS lapucelle May 2019 #128

'on a socialist platform?' elleng May 2019 #131

According to the BS definition lapucelle May 2019 #134

Yes, Democratic Socialism, not Communism LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #15

Then perhaps there are more millions to be made by other political leaders Uncle Joe May 2019 #17

Now there's a pivot. ehrnst May 2019 #147

The irony in that will be strenuously rejected by many fans, just as it is by ehrnst May 2019 #148

As someone around his age, I say he is indeed unusually wealthy. DavidDvorkin May 2019 #9

This kind of stuff is useless moose65 May 2019 #12

I don't think anyone said that. Shell_Seas May 2019 #18

The reason people "quibble" over his $2 million (and probably much more) is that he's been railing.. George II May 2019 #21

It's a distraction moose65 May 2019 #149

He and Jane have earned more than $6 million since he's been in Washington. In fact.... George II May 2019 #19

When did Bernie ever "cry poverty?" Uncle Joe May 2019 #20

Hilarious tymorial May 2019 #22

I know, right?! Observations about his WEALTH has really unnerved some folks... NurseJackie May 2019 #24

Really? This is news to my parents. BlueTsunami2018 May 2019 #25

if you earn top salary (as he has) for decades, dawg day May 2019 #28

2 million on top of a guaranteed pension is pretty good. If all they had was $2 million, they would MaryMagdaline May 2019 #40

Sanders did not get it with a lifetime of living responsibly or frugally. He got it in 2016 FreeBe May 2019 #46

Does anybody ever look up the net worth of other candidates? House of Roberts May 2019 #30

I looked up the net worth of all the candidates who have been complaining about millionaires.... George II May 2019 #36

This shouldn't even be an issue DeeDeeNY May 2019 #31

rec'd Kurt V. May 2019 #32

He wasn't until he ran a campaign against the Democratic "establishment" and made a couple million. FreeBe May 2019 #33

Recommended. guillaumeb May 2019 #38

Bernie's income went way up after 2016. Progressive dog May 2019 #42

Yep. I mean this is what I am thinking. Apple Fritter May 2019 #153

Many socialist leaders world-wide have been wealthy. That fact need not undermine their argument emmaverybo May 2019 #45

Just a couple of years ago Sander's supporters bragged that he was "the poorest member lunamagica May 2019 #51

This. sheshe2 May 2019 #115

Thank you for this post. Many Democrats see what you post as a truth. Fact. Even, mere fact. FreeBe May 2019 #143

Those are great points. lapucelle May 2019 #144

So Now He's Rich But Not That RicH? Me. May 2019 #52

LOL!! peggysue2 May 2019 #64

Like A See Saw Me. May 2019 #65

The BS campaign is nervous and tense about this. NurseJackie May 2019 #89

That's correct, Bernie is both Uncle Joe May 2019 #100

I Find THe Number Of Threads You Feel The Need To Put Up Me. May 2019 #124

Like Mama Bear's porridge. ehrnst May 2019 #146

My parents are college educated (two degrees each) and in their 80s LisaM May 2019 #55

"If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too." betsuni May 2019 #59

That's one way to do it but if you can't in any way, shape or form become a millionaire Uncle Joe May 2019 #66

... betsuni May 2019 #68

... Uncle Joe May 2019 #72

BS has 10 times as much as the average American his age. He's a millionaire who owns three homes. lapucelle May 2019 #105

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. May 2019 #119

For someone who has been making six figures for the comradebillyboy May 2019 #107

LOL NurseJackie May 2019 #112

Not true most college educated people in their 70's wasupaloopa May 2019 #127

Excuse (noun): a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense. brooklynite May 2019 #129

No doubt, that's the creative way to rationalize wealth as something other than what it is. LanternWaste May 2019 #154

lulz obamanut2012 May 2019 #155

He is pretty darn wealthy for someone his age. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #156

Bernie is near bottom net worth at140 May 2019 #160

So, he's rich enough to be "smart" but not so much that he's "dishonest or 'greedy ehrnst May 2019 #174

Or he's around the top of the list namahage May 2019 #178