Democratic Primaries

caraher

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20. That's all great as far as winning the nomination

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:58 AM

Jun 2019

If this were about betting on who wins the nomination, I'd totally agree with you. But my pick isn't based on who I think has the best shot at the nomination.

I just still need to see the case that Biden would be a better president than his rivals.

I also put little stock in polls this early as an indicator of who is most likely to beat Trump. In June 2015 Hillary Clinton's lead over Trump was double what Biden's current numbers are. Sure, Hillary won the vote, but not by enough to overcome Russian interference, etc.

I'm not convinced "old school" politics is a winning formula in November 2020, when it matters. We need to energize our voters. Offering comfort to the disappearing center is not enough on its own, even with a raving lunatic as the opponent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden Has Been Saying 'It's Not Your Father's Republican Party' For Years [View all] DonViejo Jun 2019 OP

and he's been right every time. elleng Jun 2019 #1

That line didn't work for Claire McCaskill or Joe Donnelly in 2018. And it didn't work in 2014. KPN Jun 2019 #6

Or, you could say The Mouth Jun 2019 #21

Agreed. KPN Jun 2019 #22

obviously not sufficient, but surely part of the mix. elleng Jun 2019 #35

Seems to be working out well for him. Nuggets Jun 2019 #30

Right. elleng Jun 2019 #36

Today's Republican Party would nauseate even Barry Goldwater. no_hypocrisy Jun 2019 #2

Nope The Mouth Jun 2019 #41

It's a cancer and America needs chemotherapy. Quemado Jun 2019 #3

It's a good strategy for him. MineralMan Jun 2019 #4

That's all great as far as winning the nomination caraher Jun 2019 #20

The voters will decide, in both cases. MineralMan Jun 2019 #27

"let the primaries be a free-for-all" caraher Jun 2019 #29

That's how we win. MineralMan Jun 2019 #31

What exactly has changed? 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #5

We have been assured by Joe Biden that once he is in office, Republicans will have an epiphany. Demit Jun 2019 #10

Not to worry, Demit. He's not threatening Hortensis Jun 2019 #13

I honestly don't know what that means. Could you say it another way? Demit Jun 2019 #14

::: Smacks forehead :::: 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #16

What's changed is that the worst of what they were Hortensis Jun 2019 #11

Point is they're long been and still are BAD. What's he going to do to fix things? 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #15

Maybe listen to him again? We are a substantial Hortensis Jun 2019 #28

I have been listening to him. There's no way to appeal to Republicans without sacrificing everything 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #32

in other words The Mouth Jun 2019 #23

I'm in my mid-40s, and I have never seen this benevolent republican party Politicub Jun 2019 #18

there used to be liberal republicans and racist Democrats. JI7 Jun 2019 #26

I agree with you, but there's a whole mythology about Reagan. yardwork Jun 2019 #39

WHat has changed is that LibFarmer Jun 2019 #40

I dunno, I work with a couple of die-hard Reaganites who now... SMC22307 Jun 2019 #7

It'd be a big deal for all of us to turn away from the group we identify with Hortensis Jun 2019 #24

Is any Republican actually listening? jalan48 Jun 2019 #8

The line is so old that by now Biden should be saying it's not your grandfather's Republican Party. Demit Jun 2019 #9

Who is he trying to convince? IronLionZion Jun 2019 #12

Biden is going after the center. MineralMan Jun 2019 #17

This isn't about judging the age of voters he'll bring back. This is about WHY. He's the only ancianita Jun 2019 #19

Such a wise analysis - excellently stated! Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #33

But it is. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #25

Right.There's no center. But he's not going after the hardcore supremacists. Just people evolving. ancianita Jun 2019 #34

It's a backward looking strategy chasing Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #37

We don't know who the father is but Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #38

That's what they want, Joe. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #42