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still_one

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52. Thanks, I will look more into it
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:39 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
It is a big electorate. If we are going to defeat trump we have to appeal to a big electorate. wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #1
Yes elleng Jun 2019 #6
Well, many of those are waking up to climate crisis, Hortensis Jun 2019 #109
Of course, it appears some not interested that he elleng Jun 2019 #111
:) Yes. They give whole new meaning to "climate denial." Hortensis Jun 2019 #112
And most certainly nothing positive will be done by drump. we can do it Jun 2019 #15
But how far to the right must that hypothetical candidate go? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #76
They do not need to go to the right. It is important to be main stream in 2020. wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #93
I don't know but consider 40 moderates were elected and helped get the house...those on the left Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #94
I understand this reasoning. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #125
Actually, the OP grossly misrepresents Biden's record Hortensis Jun 2019 #103
Are you basing this on an assumption RandySF Jun 2019 #2
The only assumption anyone should make shanny Jun 2019 #12
The President in normal times does not do all the asking. LiberalFighter Jun 2019 #14
Biden has put progressive legislation on the table and gotten it passed which is more than most of Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #96
Incrementalism will not serve us now. shanny Jun 2019 #104
This is the only way you get anything...the idea that we go in and pass sweeping proposals is a pipe Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #105
Tell that to FDR. shanny Jun 2019 #106
FDR is dead and the times have changed. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #114
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. shanny Jun 2019 #115
Yes, tired cliches do tend to be repeated. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #117
OK. How about an assignment: shanny Jun 2019 #119
+1 Go Vols Jun 2019 #134
A ,Illinois Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #128
I agree. Even with a landslide in the Senate LakeArenal Jun 2019 #126
For Windows users - Right Click on the image and click "View Image in New Tab" MineralMan Jun 2019 #3
Can you link to the source of this chart, please? MineralMan Jun 2019 #4
Here you go MM. Greenpeace is credited. Lochloosa Jun 2019 #8
Thanks! MineralMan Jun 2019 #9
GreenPeace heavily biased organization, and I wouldn't trust their criteria. Here are FACTS: still_one Jun 2019 #26
Sanders LCV score is 92%, Harris 100%, Warren 99%. It doesn't score non-Congressional pols. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #71
I don't agree with GreenPeace's categories, or their scoring system. From my perspective LCV's is still_one Jun 2019 #85
grist.org Magoo48 Jun 2019 #19
grist.org Magoo48 Jun 2019 #24
His name is Biden. Joe Biden. n/t charlyvi Jun 2019 #5
Glad to see my three Sanders, Warren and Inslee at the top. Thanks for posting. Nanjeanne Jun 2019 #7
What a bullshit flame bait thread. The League of Conservation of voters gives him an 85% pro still_one Jun 2019 #10
Sorry, but while he may have been ahead of the game then, shanny Jun 2019 #16
F**k the Guardian. Since Biden announced 90% of their OP Eds have been distortions and outright still_one Jun 2019 #20
I don't care fuck all about what happens in the primaries. shanny Jun 2019 #23
and Biden is there on the environment, in spite of the distortion that GreenPeace says. still_one Jun 2019 #27
is he or is he not in favor of continuing shanny Jun 2019 #28
same all or nothing approach that did so well for some in 2016. The fact is if the Democratic still_one Jun 2019 #31
Some of them will push for it to happen ASAP, and some will not. marylandblue Jun 2019 #36
Biden's record says differently, and you're analysis that he is only aiming at moderate voters, still_one Jun 2019 #41
The Green New Deal is the new dividing line, and my understanding is that he has not signed on. marylandblue Jun 2019 #48
Thanks, I will look more into it still_one Jun 2019 #52
Can there even be such a place as "middle ground" when fighting for survival? Magoo48 Jun 2019 #61
Politically, there is always a middle ground, but Mother Nature does not compromise, so marylandblue Jun 2019 #64
And he shouldn't. Look what happened to Harris in California yesterday...you won't win the rust belt Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #97
You may be correct politically, but if we don't do something drastic, climate change will kill us. marylandblue Jun 2019 #110
You know absolutely nothing about my approach to the election. shanny Jun 2019 #65
I didn't say it was you, I said that was the same approach some used in 2016, all or nothing, and I still_one Jun 2019 #66
Where exactly is Biden on the Climate Crisis? Magoo48 Jun 2019 #33
I already responded to you in another post on that, but I will repeat it again still_one Jun 2019 #38
I have nothing bad to say about Biden, but please recognize there are choices to be made here. marylandblue Jun 2019 #35
I know you don't. You actually want to have a dialog, and try to persuade people why someone is still_one Jun 2019 #67
These votes do not intimate that VP Biden has the will to lead our nation through the most Magoo48 Jun 2019 #32
Okay, so what "votes" intimate any other candidate has the will? Votes, not just words. Thanks. George II Jun 2019 #37
I don't believe the necessity for such votes has ever come to pass. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #47
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it flame bait. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #22
No, because it is a misrepresentation and distortion of Biden's record still_one Jun 2019 #29
Apparently, one person's concerns are another's bullshit. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #25
Valid point, except the LCV is looking at his lifetime record, Greenpeace is so bias they cannot still_one Jun 2019 #68
The League of Conservation Voters likes Biden's plan Gothmog Jun 2019 #131
Thanks gothmog. Also, when they give Andrew Yang a D+, either their criteria is still_one Jun 2019 #133
Interesting BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #11
you will hear it again once he starts gaining support JI7 Jun 2019 #21
The Climate Crisis is not an agenda; the Climate Crisis is an immediate absolute. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #45
Like all policy unless you can convince the American public, it is a non-starter and we have no shot Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #98
Much of what we all believe to be true is wrong. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #50
Who said anything about not addressing the issue? BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #55
Don't forget that the chart addresses only two (fossil fuels and green new deal) grumpyduck Jun 2019 #13
I am perplexed LibFarmer Jun 2019 #17
You're cracking yourself up, aren't you? Magoo48 Jun 2019 #30
They are distorting and misrepresenting Biden's record also. The GreenPeace analysis is very still_one Jun 2019 #34
I'm as green as they come and I believe we should go all in on nuclear. marylandblue Jun 2019 #40
fair enough. However, I am not so quick to embrace nuclear as an energy source unless they can still_one Jun 2019 #43
We need better reactors with fail safe designs. marylandblue Jun 2019 #51
you are right still_one Jun 2019 #53
Anyone naive enough to believe that fossil fuels are not the road to oblivion is in denial. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #42
but that isn't what I said or implied either. I said there will be a transition period. still_one Jun 2019 #44
What you just stated is what I saw you write. Blue_true Jun 2019 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Jun 2019 #84
No, I was not accusing you of that. But the people who put out the chart that you panned Blue_true Jun 2019 #86
Sorry Blue, I am going to self-delete my post. still_one Jun 2019 #87
No problem. Blue_true Jun 2019 #88
Thanks Blue. When they rate Andrew Yang a D+, there is something wrong with their criteria still_one Jun 2019 #89
You and I and a lot of people here and in the country know what their agenda is. Blue_true Jun 2019 #90
1000+ still_one Jun 2019 #92
There isn't a democrat that is in office that I know denying what you pointed out. Blue_true Jun 2019 #75
Yes, they have created an arbitrary chart LibFarmer Jun 2019 #69
Excellent post. Shows the lie about Biden's voting record for what it is, a lie. Blue_true Jun 2019 #74
This sort cares more niche issues and not about winning. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #102
"Progressive Environmentalist voters" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #18
I never claimed to be an average Democrat. The time for "average Democrats" is over. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #39
Fringe voters will not win the 2020 election left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #57
Middle of the road, slow walking, status quo is a road to nowhere. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #108
I and most of my friends are average democrats... GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #91
Greenpeace is more like the lunatic fringe. Embracing their agenda comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #49
Greenpeace is the lunatic fringe, really; one must do some powerful work themselves to so cavalierly Magoo48 Jun 2019 #54
My bad comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #58
It is a made up chart using LibFarmer Jun 2019 #70
Yep, total Oscar Meyer. Note that last one, "Inclusive Process." ucrdem Jun 2019 #73
Right now we have one common agenda - "GET RID OF TRUMP" 33taw Jun 2019 #46
I agree wholeheartedly. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #56
Yes, I just don't want to give ammo to Trump. He exploits everything. 33taw Jun 2019 #80
Agree, but we're bombarded by attempts to deceive, Hortensis Jun 2019 #107
The first and most immediate issue is getting rid of drumpf. democratisphere Jun 2019 #59
Respectfully, this debate reminds me of the dire predictions on marijuana policy crazytown Jun 2019 #60
I look forward to seeing Biden's climate policy, but I think he has less room to be bold marylandblue Jun 2019 #113
In a group, I play defense attorney of last resort crazytown Jun 2019 #118
Biden was the first to put climate change on the floor of the Senate...what have any of the Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #62
Well, Senator Sanders likely proposed an amendment to Senator Biden's bill. Blue_true Jun 2019 #79
I don't think Senator Sanders did any such thing. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #99
Objective 1: Defeat Trump. Objective 2: All of the other objectives. Miles Archer Jun 2019 #63
Top 3 are Sanders, Inslee, and Gillibrand? ucrdem Jun 2019 #72
Ah yes- Sanders, Inslee and Gillibrand or in other words, Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #77
The purpose of the made up chart was to make Senator Sanders look like the ultimate climate change Blue_true Jun 2019 #82
Looks like the meme tsunami has started. ucrdem Jun 2019 #95
And none who have a snowballs chance in hell of beating Trump. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #100
Inslee is running almost exclusively on the environment and climate change. progressoid Jun 2019 #129
Opinion: Which progressive could topple Biden? Gothmog Jun 2019 #132
Making plans for a new add on family room while the front Always Randy Jun 2019 #81
I hope we move forward, not backwards Skittles Jun 2019 #83
We can't move forward without getting rid of Trump...and having looked at the electoral map Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #101
I do not believe that Skittles Jun 2019 #120
Look at the map and tell me how we win then? No one else could...and consider that we have never Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #122
Hillary won the popular vote despite Russia and the FBI Skittles Jun 2019 #124
I won't vote for Sanders, Gillibrand or Gabbard in a primary. StevieM Jun 2019 #116
this is like when a friend of mine said she dropped her support for.. samnsara Jun 2019 #121
This election isn't about one issue NastyRiffraff Jun 2019 #123
Stopped Reading at the Mention of Gabbard DarthDem Jun 2019 #127
If the choice is between being Woke and winning, I select winning Gothmog Jun 2019 #130
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