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Hortensis

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8. "What would Hillary want?" :)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:55 PM

Jun 2019

Not all candidates are the same, by any means. Imo, former enemies and saboteurs, and we know them, are overdue to drop dead, failing the possibility of eternity in a prison cell with Trump.

But from allies, some gentle criticism delivered with respect and fellowship, and best bracketed with redeeming comments, , would be accepted -- because these people are trying to get elected and have to work with the electorates they have.

But I'm very angry at what happened and is happening, and it'd be awful easy to overdo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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When you disparage Hillary in promoting your candidate, you've already lost me. [View all] pnwmom Jun 2019 OP

Buckle up, TWO groups , one on the right and one on the LEFT are BOUND and DETERMINED Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #1

Much much much more on the right. sharedvalues Jun 2019 #53

YOu are leaving out a HUGE amount of people who support one person and ONLY one person Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #81

Not what I hear from people I talk to sharedvalues Jun 2019 #87

Sure, only @ a quarter of Sanders voters, small minority of all. Hortensis Jun 2019 #104

Tend to agree. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2019 #113

We should never blame candidates for the attitudes of individuals Hortensis Jun 2019 #116

Funny that Pat Buchanan was kind of your turning point. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2019 #120

Good story. :) Your husband was the right kind of Republican, Hortensis Jun 2019 #121

Buttigieg supporters? Because that's who the OP is focused on... TCJ70 Jun 2019 #100

Okay DownriverDem Jun 2019 #56

She was caught in a crossfire between Trump and Sanders. olegramps Jun 2019 #111

Who (or whose representatives) is doing this? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #2

Someone on an earlier thread Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #5

That's just the opinion of someone on DU. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #9

Yeah, I doubt it violates rules, nor should it. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #27

Sure, they are entitled to their opinion, and we are entitled to react to their lunamagica Jun 2019 #36

Would you write off a candidate entirely on the basis of what some rando opined The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #49

Thank you! I see that here a lot. Tipperary Jun 2019 #69

No real commitment to principles or issues, Hortensis Jun 2019 #106

Exactly. Tipperary Jun 2019 #108

Agreed. Especially zentrum Jun 2019 #62

OMFG! BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #33

I wasn't saying it was good or bad. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #60

I don't even really think that is Hillary bashing necessarily dsc Jun 2019 #102

Care to share who you're directing this toward? left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #3

I'm directing this at anyone who disparages Hillary in trying to promote their guy. pnwmom Jun 2019 #4

I've read almost none ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Jun 2019 #10

Really? Interesting. Hekate Jun 2019 #17

Thank you left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #29

"Guy" narrows it down a bit. Harker Jun 2019 #51

Any candidate who attacks Clinton can forget about my support in the primary Gothmog Jun 2019 #6

Ditto NastyRiffraff Jun 2019 #86

Mine too nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #117

"What would Hillary want?" :) Hortensis Jun 2019 #8

no effing kidding-- librechik Jun 2019 #11

Thank-you pnwmom. That was something that needed to be said 1000+ still_one Jun 2019 #12

You're very welcome, still_one. nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #14

I'm bothered by ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #13

Agreed - I am also disgusted by the flagrant ageism expressed on DU (e.g. he/she is too old to run) Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #31

Couldn't agree more... there's no place for any form of descrimination, including ageism. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #78

first of all qazplm135 Jun 2019 #52

I don't vote based on race or gender left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #72

silliness qazplm135 Jun 2019 #80

Thanks for the chuckle left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #90

TOTALLY agree nt Raine Jun 2019 #96

Really? That's what keeps you up at night? MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #114

She was defeated by Putin. NNadir Jun 2019 #15

Clearly "not likeable enough" to Putin. Which ought to be a gigantic plus to any American. nt Hekate Jun 2019 #19

Putin FEARED Hillary luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #24

And Suadia Arabia. And Israel. And Egypt. And the UAE. Generic Brad Jun 2019 #25

Russia and Bahrain Bev54 Jun 2019 #39

Not Just Putin Me. Jun 2019 #35

K&r LW1977 Jun 2019 #16

I feel the same when I hear trash talk about... JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #18

The difference is that he's running now, and everyone running has to be able pnwmom Jun 2019 #21

Or, just... JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #23

Yes, they are. I voted Bernie in the 2016 primary. Then HRC in the GE. I support Bernie being a KPN Jun 2019 #109

+1000 mtnsnake Jun 2019 #59

Thank you, pnwmom Hekate Jun 2019 #20

You're welcome, Hekate! pnwmom Jun 2019 #22

++++++++ totally agree with you pnwmom. nt iluvtennis Jun 2019 #26

WOW, THANKS! ssy Jun 2019 #28

Needed to be said, and you said it well. marybourg Jun 2019 #30

+1000 nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #32

+ 1000!!! Thank you, thano yoy THANK YOU! lunamagica Jun 2019 #34

Thank you Bev54 Jun 2019 #37

AMEN! count me in too! samnsara Jun 2019 #38

Is pointing out the missteps of previous campaigns considered disparaging? DCofVA Jun 2019 #40

I gave examples. All the people who did those things probably thought pnwmom Jun 2019 #43

Count me in too scardycat Jun 2019 #41

What brought this on? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #42

There have been many such posts here -- which is why there are so many recs. pnwmom Jun 2019 #44

Oh, I haven't seen those. I guessed it was about Biden, though. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #47

Uh huh.. look at all the Biden Supporters who Cha Jun 2019 #58

Since someone died and left you in charge... mudstump Jun 2019 #45

Just don't disparage her, unless you're trying to alienate her supporters. pnwmom Jun 2019 #50

Can we say anything about Hillary? mudstump Jun 2019 #70

You are entirely free to say anything you want. Just don't expect anyone here pnwmom Jun 2019 #71

You are speaking for everyone?... mudstump Jun 2019 #73

Why don't I? Because I keep reading posts here from people putting Hillary down pnwmom Jun 2019 #74

Speaking for most of us. nt fleabiscuit Jun 2019 #93

+1 melman Jun 2019 #54

What a crappy thing to say ... Persondem Jun 2019 #89

Exactly seta1950 Jun 2019 #46

We should avoid re-litigating 2016 election RedParrot Jun 2019 #48

Prevent? He is COUNTING on them to help him again lunamagica Jun 2019 #55

Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick! mcar Jun 2019 #57

Many people feel that she was the only person who could possibly have lost to Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #61

That is putting it mildly. pazzyanne Jun 2019 #64

Thank you, pnwmom! pazzyanne Jun 2019 #63

Amen wryter2000 Jun 2019 #65

And me. Thanks for putting it out there, pnwmom. TygrBright Jun 2019 #66

If the candidate doesn't trash Hillary, that's one thing. Jakes Progress Jun 2019 #67

I think it's important to figure out what Hillary did wrong and make sure it's not done again... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #68

We have some great candidates, but we need not compare them to the past. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #75

Yes, yes, yes! We should all know by now who really won in 2016... brush Jun 2019 #76

Me too LiberalBrooke Jun 2019 #77

I agree Progressive dog Jun 2019 #79

I agree. betsuni Jun 2019 #82

Disparaging any candidate on our side - including Bernie - should be considered friendly fire. Princetonian Jun 2019 #83

Bernie is running for 2020. His supporters aren't up for grabs, as Hillary's are. pnwmom Jun 2019 #85

I doubt millions of Hillary voters care what is being said on this forum for it to affect 2020. Princetonian Jun 2019 #88

This forum -- and anywhere else that people might think disparaging Hillary, pnwmom Jun 2019 #91

So is disparaging any of the candidates on our side I should think. Princetonian Jun 2019 #112

It's natural to compare, contrast, and criticize candidates running against each other. pnwmom Jun 2019 #119

1000% radical noodle Jun 2019 #84

HRC made mistakes and it's reasonable to want our candidates to not repeat the aikoaiko Jun 2019 #92

Shocking. nt fleabiscuit Jun 2019 #95

It's not reasonable to assume that anyone's favorite 2020 candidate pnwmom Jun 2019 #97

Campaigns are a bunch of strategic decisions based on the candidate, plans, current situations, etc aikoaiko Jun 2019 #103

People who disparage Hillary get a block from me Politicub Jun 2019 #94

Hillary is not running. Aussie105 Jun 2019 #98

Nice to meet you here, Aussie105! We need all the allies we can get. pnwmom Jun 2019 #99

Yeah. I lost some respect for Ted Kennedy Clash City Rocker Jun 2019 #101

Before you wreck your health PADemD Jun 2019 #105

It is 2019. betsuni Jun 2019 #107

+1 PDittie Jun 2019 #115

You may be projecting. This is about the current election, pnwmom Jun 2019 #118

I don't see anything in the OP about 2016. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #122

A divisive post about not being divisive, based entirely in the past. That's how I read this. KPN Jun 2019 #110